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William & Lucy Burton, Coddington, Notts

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Linda

Linda Report 23 Jul 2013 14:37

I have got William Burton bp 29 Oct 1789 Winthorpe, Notts, died 12 Nov 1864 Coddington and his wife Lucy born c1789 North Hykeham, Lincs, died 19 July 1862 Coddington. Their death dates come from their gravestone in Coddington.

I have found them in all three censuses, 1841, 1851 and 1861, no problem. In 1841 their household includes Sarah Herlain or Hurlain, aged 100! I am guessing that she is Lucy's mother or grandmother, but can't find anyone of this surname in Lincs, and haven't found a marriage for William Burton and Lucy. If anyone can help I'd be most grateful.

This is the family in 1841 in Coddington, Notts.
William Burton 50 farmer
Lucy Burton 50, not born in county
John Burton 25
Sarah Burton 10
Lucy Burton 9
Sarah Herlain [?] 100
John Stanley 15 ag lab

1851 Coddington
William Burton 63, cottager of 4 acres, born Winthorpe, Notts
Lucy Burton 64, cottager’s wife, born Lincs [illegible]
Lucy Burton 18, unmarried, daughter, at home, born Coddington

1861 Coddington
William Burton 72, pauper, late cottager, born Winthorpe
Lucy Burton 73, born Lincs, North Hykeham

safc

safc Report 23 Jul 2013 14:41

????

William Burton, "England Marriages, 1538–1973 "
Name: William Burton
Birth Date:
Birthplace:
Age:
Spouse's Name: Lucy Eslam
Spouse's Birth Date:
Spouse's Birthplace:
Spouse's Age:
Event Date: 1814
Event Place: Thorpe On The Hill, Lincoln, England
Father's Name:
Mother's Name:
Spouse's Father's Name:
Spouse's Mother's Name:
Race:
Marital Status:
Previous Wife's Name:
Spouse's Race:
Spouse's Marital Status:
Spouse's Previous Husband's Name:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M03245-3
System Origin: England-VR
GS Film number: 1542199
Reference ID: 2:3BTZJ6C

Linda

Linda Report 23 Jul 2013 14:43

Actually just thought - Sarah Hurlain/Herlain could be William's grandmother!

Linda

Linda Report 23 Jul 2013 14:48

Brilliant - that could be them. Looking again at the 1851 census, Lucy's birthplace could be Thorpe on the Hill - definitely looks like Hill as the last bit. Wonder why 1861 said North Hykeham??? And could Eslam have been misheard as Herlain? Thanks very much for this. :-)

Catherine

Catherine Report 23 Jul 2013 15:02

Original definately show name as Eslam and William as being born in Bardney:-

Pallot's Marriage Index for England: 1780 - 1837 about Lucy Eslam
Name: Lucy Eslam
Spouse: Wm Burton
Spouse's Residence: of Bardney
Marriage Date: 1814
Parish: Thorpe On Hill Lincs 4

Catherine

Catherine Report 23 Jul 2013 15:03

Another version:-

Lincolnshire, England, Extracted Parish Records about William Burton Lucy Eslam

Text: William Burton, of Bardney, & Lucy Eslam, lic. 07 Jun 1814

Book: Calendar of Wills Proved and of Administrations Granted in the Commissary Court of the Peculiar and Exempt Jurisdiction of Groby, 1580-1800.
Collection: Lincolnshire: - Register of Marriages, 1562-1837 (Marriage)

Linda

Linda Report 23 Jul 2013 15:06

Ah, if William was born in Bardney it's not my William - censuses definitely say Winthorpe, Notts as his birthplace, which is only a few miles from Coddington. Unless he was working in Bardney. I've been caught like this before - place of residence at marriage is not necessarily the birthplace. More to ponder!

Wendy

Wendy Report 23 Jul 2013 18:26

Hi

Marriages don't give place of birth just where they were living at time of marriage so doesn't mean that he was born Bardney. Also have you looked at the actual image for the 1841 census to check age of Sarah Herlain 100yrs in case it was transcribe wrong? I have had this before transcribe as 110yrs when actually 10yrs

Wendy

Mike *

Mike * Report 23 Jul 2013 18:48

Sarah Haslem age as 100 on original 1841 census is clear

Trees have William's wife Lucy as maiden name Eslam.

Linda

Linda Report 23 Jul 2013 19:31

Yes it's definitely 100! And I can see now how it might be Haslem, not Herlain - wish their writing was a bit clearer! Thanks everyone - looks like this must definitely be the right William Burton as it all fits now. Another name filled in on the tree! :-)

Wendy

Wendy Report 24 Jul 2013 10:34

That's good then always worth checking, good old age then :-D :-D

Edit: There's a Sarah Aslin buried 23 Jun 1843 aged 102yrs at Coddington.

could this be her with another spelling of surname!!!

Linda

Linda Report 24 Jul 2013 12:23

Oh that sounds likely doesn't it. Many thanks. And one in the eye for all the people who parrot 'they all died young in those days'! No they blooming well didn't - not if our trees are anything to go by! :-D

Linda

Linda Report 24 Jul 2013 23:19

FreeBMD has her death as Sarah Heslen, June 1843 Newark. I'm beginning to think this surname takes the record for the number of variants!