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born in Manchester. married to Nasser ali in Stepney east London. 3 siblings norman,victor and renee. any more info would be great thinking she was born 1897?? would like marriages before she was ali and after as my dad died before I started doing this in 1996. :-D

Could this be her birth?

Name: Frances Ivy Yates
Birth Date: 18 Jan 1897
Age: 0
Baptism Date: 10 Feb 1897
Parish: Newton Heath, St Anne
Parish as it Appears: Saint Anne, Newton Heath
Father's Name: Elizabeth Yates
Mother's Name: Peter Yates occ Labourer
Address: 12 Robert Street
Reference Number: M148/1/23/1
Item Number: 3
Archive Roll: 826

Marriages Dec 1922 (>99%)
ALI Nassir Samuels Chorlton 8c 1592
Samuels Frances I Ali Chorlton 8c 1592

was she formally known as hughes from a previous marriage before she became an ali???

was she formally known as hughes from a previous marriage before she became an ali???

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Jan

Marriages Mar 1917
Samuels Joseph Yates Chorlton 8c 1138
Yates Frances I Samuels Chorlton 8c 1138

Did she have children by a previous marriage?

Name: Lesli Samuels (should read Leslie)
Mother's Maiden Surname: Yates
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1917
Registration District: Chorlton
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume Number: 8c
Page Number: 1071

Just wondering ... !

Name: Joseph Samuels
Spouse Hilda M Ingle
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1918
Registration District: Chorlton
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume Number: 8c
Page Number: 1497

1901 England Census
Name: Frances J Yates (prob Frances I)
Age: 4
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1897
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Peter Yates
Mother's Name: Elizabeth Yates
Gender: Female
Where born: Newton Heath, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: North Manchester
Ecclesiastical parish: Newton Heath St Anne
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Registration District: Prestwich
Sub-registration District: Newton

Name Age
Peter Yates 34
Elizabeth Yates 32
Frances J Yates 4
William B Yates 10 Months

Separate thread about Nasser Ali
http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1329151?jump=1329151

Might be better to stick to this one as it will involve a lot of the same records

Is this her death?

England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2007

Name: Frances Ivy Ali
Birth Date: 18 Jan 1897
Date of Registration: Mar 1978
Age at Death: 81
Registration District: Greenwich
Inferred County: Greater London
Volume: 12
Page: 1139

Birth date matches the baptism posted earlier.

I presume that it's a coincidence, even though the father on this is also Peter?

Manchester, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1930

Name: Frances Ivy Yates
Birth Year: abt 1897
Age: 22
Marriage Date: 15 Mar 1919
Parish: Longsight, St Clement
Parish as it Appears: St Clement Longsight
Father's Name: Peter Ivy Yates - Warehouseman
Spouse's Name: Herbert Dyson (24) Warehouseman
Spouse's Father's Name: Charles Dyson - Labourer
Reference Number: M352/3/2/4
Item Number: 3
Archive Roll: 852

Neither married before and both give address as 128 Morton Street.

Witnesses: Charles Wilfred Smith and Emily Lindsay.

According to Faye's other thread Norman, Victor and Renee were Nasser and Frances' children, not their siblings.

Faye, in your opening post you say you'd like details of her marriages befoe Ali and after - there's nothing to suggest that she married again after him as her death registration is in the name of Ali.

ok thanks :-D