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Anyone help with a marriage search please?

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HeyJudeB4Beatles

HeyJudeB4Beatles Report 29 Aug 2013 18:02

Just a thought Beth there is a Wellington in Somerset too - had this problem early in my tree research with a birth in Oakengates in Shropshire - GRO was Wellington but it kept coming up with inferred county Somerset :-( So bear this in mind!

Beth

Beth Report 29 Aug 2013 14:12

By the way, I have family info on the Rowswell's in Bridgenorth and Wellington. I have a death cert for Sybil too. I knew Charles Rowswell was the inn-keeper of The Swan and married Susan ??? - prior to that nothing. Seems the maternal side were from Shropshire and paternal (Rowswell's) from the South. Thanks again! :-)

Potty

Potty Report 29 Aug 2013 14:09

Agree with Dea, Beth. Have made the mistake of not buying a cert and so gone down a wrong line - it's a real pain to correct later!

Dea

Dea Report 29 Aug 2013 14:05

DO get one of those birth certs though to confirm we have found the correct marriage, otherwise you will be adding the wrong people onto your tree,

Dea Xxx

Beth

Beth Report 29 Aug 2013 14:00

Thank you! I'm so busy filling in missing links in my family tree with your very kind help. x

Potty

Potty Report 29 Aug 2013 13:04

As Dea, said don't send for the marriage cert. You need to get one of the children's birth certs which will give you Susan's maiden name to confirm that you have the correct couple.

Dea

Dea Report 29 Aug 2013 12:55

Don't send for the marriage cert !!

I will pm you a copy of it from the Parish Register.

Give me a few minutes..........

Dea x


EDIT - On it's way !

Dea x

Potty

Potty Report 29 Aug 2013 12:54

Sybil's birth reg:


Births Jun 1898 (>99%)
Rowswell Sybil Hilda Bridgnorth 6a 552

Beth

Beth Report 29 Aug 2013 12:53

Thanks Potty and Dea. These reecords all tie in with the info that I have such as The Swan Inn, Bridgenorth. I don't have any of the children's birth certs unfortunately. I'm wondering if it's worth sending form the 1887 marriage cert?
Beth

Potty

Potty Report 29 Aug 2013 12:46

Possible for Susan - father Thomas is a house painter:


1871 England Census
Name:Susan Watkins
Age:4
Estimated Birth Year:abt 1867
Relation:Daughter
Father's Name:Thomas Watkins
Mother's Name:Sarah Watkins
Gender:Female
Where born:Bridgnorth, Shropshire, England
Civil Parish:Bridgnorth St Mary
County/Island:Shropshire
Country:England
Thomas Watkins 30
Sarah Watkins 34
Susan Watkins 4
Norah Watkins 5 Months

With that marriage being so far from either of their birth places, I think you really need a child's birth cert.

Potty

Potty Report 29 Aug 2013 12:39

The 1887 marriage gives Charles occupation as Butler,


London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
Charles Rowswell
Estimated Birth Year:abt 1863
Age:24
Spouse Name:Susan Watkins
Spouse Age:20
Record Type:Marriage
Event Date:11 Apr 1887
Parish:Lewisham St Mary
Borough:Lewisham
Father Name:John Rowswell , Engine driver, dec'd

Spouse Father Name:Thomas Watkins , painter

both living at 63 Arabin Rd.

Dea

Dea Report 29 Aug 2013 12:25

For reference - is this them on 1911?

1911 census transcription details for: The Swan Inn Eardington Bridgnorth
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National Archive Reference:

RG14PN15965 RG78PN983 RD346 SD1 ED4 SN4
Reg. District: Bridgnorth
Sub District: Chetton
Parish: Eardington
Enum. District: 4
Address: The Swan Inn Eardington Bridgnorth
County: Shropshire
Name Relation Condition/
Yrs married Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born
ROWSWELL, Charles Head Married 25 years M 48 1863 Inn Keeper Shepton Beauchamp
ROWSWELL, Susan Wife Married F 43 1868 Somersetshire
ROWSWELL, Sybil H Daughter F 13 1898 Bridgnorth Salop
SCHOOLCROFT, Caroline T Boarder F 4 1907 Bridgnorth Knowle Sds

Married 25 years (so fits with the date of above marriage) - 3 children

Dea x

Potty

Potty Report 29 Aug 2013 12:21

If this is them, then they had been married 25 years in 1911 (1886):


1911 England Census
about Charles Rowswell
Birth Place:Shepton Beauchamp, Somerset, England
Civil Parish:
Eardington
County/Island:Shropshire
Country:England
Street Address:The Swaninn, Knowle Sands, Eardington, Bridgnorth
Marital Status:Married
Years Married:25
Estimated Marriage Year:1886
Occupation:Inn Keeper
Registration District:Bridgnorth

Charles Rowswell 48
Susan Rowswell 43
Sybil H Rowswell 13

This is the only marriage I can find, but it is London:


Marriages Jun 1887 (>99%)
Cleaver Alonzo Lewisham 1d 1473 Scan available - click to view
MEARSHAM Ann Lewisham 1d 1473 Scan available - click to view
Rowswell Charles Lewisham 1d 1473 Scan available - click to view
WATKINS Susan Lewisham 1d 1473

Do you have any of the children's birth certs? One of them would give you Susan's
MN.

Dea

Dea Report 29 Aug 2013 12:20

??

I can only see this one at the moment on FreeBMD

Marriages Jun 1887 (>99%)
Cleaver Alonzo Lewisham 1d 1473 Scan available - click to view
MEARSHAM Ann Lewisham 1d 1473 Scan available - click to view
Rowswell Charles Lewisham 1d 1473 Scan available - click to view
WATKINS Susan Lewisham 1d 1473 Scan available - click to view


I will explore further........

Dea x

Beth

Beth Report 29 Aug 2013 12:15

Looking for marriage: Charles Rowswell from Somerset and Susan (don't know maiden name). They were living in Eardington, Shropshire according to 1901 census and had 3 children, the eldest being 13 at the time of census. Estimated year of marriage would be 1888 ish. Thank you!