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1911 census, Am I missing something ?

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Kay????

Kay???? Report 17 Sep 2013 14:56

he maybe down as Thomas or a nick name,or even as a visitor/boarder,,,there doesnt have to be a family connection,

or even a mistranscribed age,,,,,,it happens that 8 can be transcribed as 18,,,,,,,

McNUTTY,,,,,,,,,easy a mistranscribe

Angela

Angela Report 17 Sep 2013 13:30

I all, thank you for all your replies.
Derek, I have his birth cert so everything is correct, He isn't with his other family members as I have thoroughly searched the census's, you could be on to something re the mill, thanks.

Patchem, no his grandparents are in Morley, leeds and he isn't there. thanks

Susan, yes the info you have given is correct, his sister was called Mary b1908 Hunslet, leeds.

Argyllgran, the info you have provided is correct , I have all this info, I am just finding it frustrating as my grandfather was my dads father and my father is 75 this year and the plan is for me to put together as much info about his family that I can.

Kay, no this isn't him, the other names are no relation to my family, thanks

Reggie, yes that is JT's birth, his birth was registered in 1905 as he was born in Dec 1904 in West Ardsley which I thought came under Leeds but apparently it comes under Wakefield, anyway the plot thickens and I shall keep plugging away, thanks for your help.

Reggie

Reggie Report 17 Sep 2013 12:39

Is this his birth?

Yorkshire Birth indexes for the years: 1904
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference

MCNULTY John T Ardsley Leeds ARDS/36/200

Kay????

Kay???? Report 17 Sep 2013 12:20


There is a John Mcnulty in Barnsely given bn 1903,,,,,is he with family?

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 17 Sep 2013 10:38

Just a wild guess, as the parents were in Pontefract reg district in 1911:

Marriages Dec 1928 (>99%)

MCNULTY John T Wood Pontefract 9c 280
Wood Maisie D McNulty Pontefract 9c 280

EDIT:

England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2007 about Maisie Doreen McNulty
Name: Maisie Doreen McNulty
Birth Date: 20 May 1908
Date of Registration: Dec 1979
Age at Death: 71
Registration District: Manchester
Inferred County: Greater Manchester
Volume: 38
Page: 0939


Doesn't help to answer the question of where John Thomas and his sibling were in 1911, I know!

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 17 Sep 2013 10:15

For ref:

Marriages Dec 1903 (>99%)
MCNULTY James Dewsbury 9b 1217

PRITCHARD Winifred Dewsbury 9b 1217

Births Mar 1905 (>99%)
McNulty John Thomas Wakefield 9c 96

Susan

Susan Report 17 Sep 2013 09:11

For Ref .

1911 England Census
about James McNulty Name: James McNulty
Age in 1911: 36
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1875
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Castlebar, Miyo, Ireland
Civil Parish: Castleford
County/Island: Yorkshire-West Riding
Country: England
Street Address: 1 Smaw Thorn Grove Castleford
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Coal Miner
Registration District: Pontefract
Registration District Number: 505
Sub-registration District: Castleford
ED, institution, or vessel: 17
Piece: 27503
Household Members: Name Age
James McNulty 36
Winnie McNulty 29
Thomas McNulty 29
James McNulty 28


Says two children born two living .maybe they are away at school .
What is the name of the other child please?

Susan

Susan Report 17 Sep 2013 08:26

England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2007
about John Thomas McNulty Name: John Thomas McNulty
Birth Date: 26 Dec 1904
Date of Registration: Dec 1980
Age at Death: 76
Registration District: Bolton
Inferred County: Greater Manchester
Volume: 38
Page: 0183

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 16 Sep 2013 22:46

No John McNulty's in Co Kerry in 1911.

Some of approx right age in Co Mayo, where his father came from:

McNulty John Boherhallagh Toomore Mayo 9 M
McNulty John Ballintemple Meelick Mayo 8 M
McNulty John Cuillonaghtan Callow Mayo 8 M
McNulty John Belderg Beg Belderg More Mayo 7 M
McNulty John Boherhallagh Toomore Mayo 7 M

But all seem to be with their parents.

patchem

patchem Report 16 Sep 2013 22:38

Any chance he is with his mother's parents - are they still in Ireland?

Derek

Derek Report 16 Sep 2013 22:16

Hi Angela,
I am presuming that your birth data is accurate i.e from a cert or West Yorkshire Records in Leeds.

There is a possible explanation for your Grandfather's omission: perhaps his parents did not want to include him. I know that they had a legal duty to declare him but were they literate, was he the firstborn and they just missed him OR had they told a few porkies and sent him to work (under age ) in the mill - they may well have been desperate for the little extra cash. They could have covered their deed by omitting his existence from the census; the 1911 census was the first to be fully completed by the householder.
If the mill was more than an easy walk away he could have pretended to have no parents stayed and at 'accomadation' provided by the company alternatively stayed with a relative or family friend .

Try West Yorkshire Archives or Pudsey Parish Clarks on line-it's free- if you are not on Ancestry.

good luck

Angela

Angela Report 16 Sep 2013 15:27

yes it seems very odd to me, I cant find him anywhere. :-(

Reggie

Reggie Report 16 Sep 2013 12:29

Perhaps the father didn't think he had to record the children?

He's included all the adults in the household................

Margee

Margee Report 16 Sep 2013 12:14

The 1911 census says they've had 2 children and both are still living but neither one are with them.

Angela

Angela Report 16 Sep 2013 12:08

:-S
Hi fellow researchers, I am trying to fing my grandfather on the 1911 census but am getting no where.
Hi name was John Thomas Mcnulty born in 1904 in Morley, leeds.
His parent were James Mcnulty b 1874 Mayo Ireland and Winifred Pritchard b 1882 Kerry Ireland, I have managed to find JT's parents but he is not living with them in Castleford, west Yorkshire.
Where am I going wrong ?