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HELP PLEASE ?

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dopey06

dopey06 Report 18 Sep 2013 12:47

Hello All , can you please help.

Any info on the parents of JOHN STEPHENSON ( RAILWAY CONTRACTOR ) ? - who married ELEANOR DODDS ( who were her parents also please ? )

Who were their children ?

Thank you :-)

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 18 Sep 2013 12:51

When ?

Where ?

safc

safc Report 18 Sep 2013 12:53

????

Eleanor Dodds, "England Marriages, 1538–1973 "
Name: John Stephenson
Birth Date:
Birthplace:
Age:
Spouse's Name: Eleanor Dodds
Spouse's Birth Date:
Spouse's Birthplace:
Spouse's Age:
Event Date: 1820
Event Place: All Saints, Newcastle Upon Tyne, Northumberland, England
Father's Name:
Mother's Name:
Spouse's Father's Name:
Spouse's Mother's Name:
Race:
Marital Status:
Previous Wife's Name:
Spouse's Race:
Spouse's Marital Status:
Spouse's Previous Husband's Name:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M15606-2
System Origin: England-VR
GS Film number: 1068967
Reference ID: 2:KX4XLV

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 18 Sep 2013 13:07

Have you found them on any census ?

How do you know the occupation of John ?

safc

safc Report 18 Sep 2013 13:14

Name: Ann Stephenson
Gender: Female
Christening Date: 10 Apr 1825
Christening Place: St. Helen, Auckland, Durham, England
Birth Date:
Birthplace:
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: John Stephenson
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Eleanor Dodds
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C03404-5
System Origin: England-EASy
GS Film number: 1894173
Reference ID: bk 8b pg 97 cn 776

dopey06

dopey06 Report 18 Sep 2013 13:35

Thank you so much for the info. Once again .

Best regards , Dave

:-) :-)

Lynne From Up North !!

Lynne From Up North !! Report 18 Sep 2013 19:24

For reference - 1851 census
Name:John Stephenson
Age:50
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1801
Relation:Head
Spouse's Name:Eleanor Stephenson
Gender:M (Male)
Where born:Throston, Durham, England
Civil Parish:Seaton Carew
County/Island:Durham
Country:England
Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Disability:
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Registration District:Stockton
Sub-registration District:Hartlepool
ED, institution, or vessel:8
Neighbors:View others on page
Household Schedule Number:9
Piece:2384
Folio:206
Page Number:3
Household Members:NameAge
John Stephenson 50
Eleanor Stephenson 48
William Thompson Stephenson 9 Son
Isabella Stephenson 7 Daughter
John Grey 19
Ann Hewton 27
Alice Dobing 16

alviegal

alviegal Report 18 Sep 2013 20:58

??

1841 census transcription details for: Carr Houses, Stranton, Seaton Carew
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National Archive Reference:
RG number: HO107
Piece: 316
Book/Folio: 11/13
Page: 20
Reg. District: Stockton & Sedgefield
Sub District: Hartlepool
Parish: Stranton
Enum. District:
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Carr Houses, Stranton, Seaton Carew
County: Durham
Name Relation Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born
STEPHENSON, John M 35 1806 farmer Durham
STEPHENSON, Ellr F 35 1806 Durham
STEPHENSON, A Isabella F 1 1840 Durham
STOKEL, John M 15 1826 Durham
HALL, Jane F 15 1826 Durham
NEWTON, Mary F 12 1829




1851 census transcription details for: Carr House, Seaton Carew
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National Archive Reference:
RG number: HO107
Piece: 2384
Folio: 206
Page: 3
Reg. District: Stockton
Sub District:
Parish: Seaton Carew
Enum. District:
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Carr House, Seaton Carew
County: Durham
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
STEPHENSON, John Head Married M 50 1801 Farmer 140acres Employing 6 Labourers
Thornton, Durham
STEPHENSON, Eleanor Wife Married F 48 1803
Thornton, Durham
STEPHENSON, William Thompson Son Unmarried M 9 1842 Scholar
Thornton, Durham
STEPHENSON, Isabella Daughter Unmarried F 7 1844 Scholar
Thornton, Durham
GREY, John Servant Unmarried M 19 1832 Ag Lab
Cowpen, Durham
NEWTON, Ann Servant Unmarried F 27 1824 House Servant
Newby, Yorkshire
DOBING, Alice Servant Unmarried F 16 1835 House Servant


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1861 Census transcription details for: Carr House, Seaton Carew, Seaton Carew

National Archive Reference:
RG number RG09
Piece: 3701
Folio: 79
Page: 2
Reg. District: Hartlepool
Sub District: 1 Hartlepool
Parish: Seaton Carew
Enum. District: 18
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Carr House, Seaton Carew, Seaton Carew
County: Durham
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
STEPHENSON, John Head Married M 60 1801 Farmer 200 Acres Employing 3 Labourer
Hart, County Durham
STEPHENSON, Eleanor Wife Married F 59 1802 Farmers Wife
Stranton, County Durham
STEPHENSON, William S Son Unmarried M 19 1842 Farmers Son
Seaton Carew, County Durham
STEPHENSON, Isabella Daughter Unmarried F 17 1844 Farmers Daughter
Seaton Carew, County Durham
BOWRON, John Servant Widower M 60 1801 Farmers Servant
Stranton, County Durham
BARKER, Ann Servant Unmarried F 28 1833 Dairy Maid
Mordon, Durham



1871 census transcription details for: Carr House, Seaton Carew
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National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG10
Piece: 4913
Folio: 77
Page: 40
Reg. District: Hartlepool
Sub District: Hartlepool
Parish: Seaton Carew
Enum. District: 6
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Carr House, Seaton Carew
County: Durham
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born
STEPHENSON, John Head M 70 1801 farmer of 200 acres County Durham
STEPHENSON, Eleanor Wife F 68 1803 County Durham
STEPHENSON, William Son M 29 1842 County Durham
ELDER, Addison Servant M 18 1853 County Durham
CROW, Robert Servant M 20 1851 County Durham
THOMPSON, Ann Servant F 23 1848 Yorkshire
SMITH, Elizabeth Servant F 16 1855 County Durham
Bishopton, Durham


John always appears to be a farmer. Where did you get information about him working on the railways?

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 18 Sep 2013 21:46

I assume this is the man you're trying to find? Brother-in-law Isaac Dodds

http://www.gracesguide.co.uk/John_Stephenson_%282%29

http://www.gracesguide.co.uk/Isaac_Dodds

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 18 Sep 2013 21:50

Isaac Dodds

England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975

christening: 13 September 1801 Jarrow, Durham, England
residence: Heworth, Durham, England


father:Thomas Dodds
mother:Ann Weatherburn

alviegal

alviegal Report 18 Sep 2013 21:51

1881 census transcription details for: Warren Hall, Throston
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National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG11
Piece: 4906
Folio: 39
Page: 7
Reg. District: Hartlepool
Sub District: Hartlepool
Parish: Throston
Enum. District:
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Warren Hall, Throston
County: Durham
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
STEPHENSON, Eleanor Head Widow F 78 1803 Farmers Widow
Stranton, Durham
WALKER, Ann Sister Widow F 76 1805 Annuitant
Stranton, Durham
ASHCROFT, Sarah Servant Single F 30 1851 General Servant (Domestic)
Thornley, Durham
CAMPBELL, Thomas Servant Married M 41 1840 Farm Labourer
Mayo, Ireland



1891 census transcription details for: Cleadon Towers, Shields Road, Whitburn, Cleadon
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National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG12
Piece: 4163
Folio: 10
Page: 13
Reg. District: South Shields
Sub District: Westoe
Parish: Whitburn
Enum. District: 50
Ecclesiastical District: Whitburn
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Cleadon Towers, Shields Road, Whitburn, Cleadon
County: Durham
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
POLLARD, George Head Married M 46 1845 Living On His Own Means
Newcastle on Tyne
POLLARD, Isabella Wife Married F 46 1845
Seaton Carew, Durham
POLLARD, Eleanor J Daughter Single F 20 1871
Eaglescliffe, Durham
POLLARD, Sarah Daughter Single F 19 1872
Eaglescliffe, Durham
POLLARD, George C Son Single M 17 1874 Scholar
Eaglescliffe, Durham
POLLARD, Olivia C Daughter F 15 1876 Scholar
Eaglescliffe, Durham
POLLARD, John S Son M 14 1877 Scholar
Eaglescliffe, Durham
POLLARD, Rosa H Daughter F 13 1878 Scholar
Castle Eden, Durham
POLLARD, Isabella Daughter F 12 1879 Scholar
Castle Eden, Durham
POLLARD, Florence E Daughter F 10 1881 Scholar
Castle Eden, Durham
POLLARD, Lydia S Daughter F 8 1883 Scholar
Whitburn, Durham
POLLARD, Thomas B Son M 5 1886 Scholar
Whitburn, Durham
>>STEPHENSON, Eleanor Mother In Law Widow F 88 1803 Living On Her Own Means
Strauton, Durham
HORDON, Mary Y Boarder Single F 26 1865 Governess
Blaydon, Durham
LENIE, Susan Servant Single F 30 1861 Servant Domestic
Gosforth, Northumberland

alviegal

alviegal Report 18 Sep 2013 21:59

Isaac Dodds

Other siblings.


Thomas Weatherburn Dodds

England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975

birth: 29 October 1799
christening: 24 November 1799 HEWORTH,DURHAM,ENGLAND


father:Thomas Dodds
mother:Ann Weatherburn




Ralph Dodd

England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975

birth: 24 May 1804
christening: 23 September 1804 RYTON,DURHAM,ENGLAND


father:Thomas Dodd
mother:Ann Weatherburn

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 18 Sep 2013 22:10

????

Eleanor Dodds

England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975

christening: 10 December 1797 HEWORTH,DURHAM,ENGLAND


father:Thomas Dodds

alviegal

alviegal Report 18 Sep 2013 22:24

Thanks to that christening, I think this may be them.

Bear in mind this is Isaac's obituary.

Isaac Dodds was born on the 9th of July, 1801, at the Felling Hall, Hewarth, in the county of Durham.



1841 census transcription details for: Markeaton Lane, St Werburgh, Derby
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National Archive Reference:
RG number: HO107
Piece: 199
Book/Folio: 18/44
Page: 34
Reg. District: Derby
Sub District: St Peter
Parish: St Werburgh
Enum. District:
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough: Derby
Address: Markeaton Lane, St Werburgh, Derby
County: Derbyshire
Name Relation Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born
STEPHENSON, John M 45 1796 railway contractor ?
STEPHENSON, Eleanor F 42 1799
STEPHENSON, Hannah F 19 1822
STEPHENSON, Caroline F 14 1827
STEPHENSON, Mary F 10 1831
STEPHENSON, Emma F 8 1833
STEPHENSON, Amelia F 6 1835
STEPHENSON, Louisia F 1 1840
STEPHENSON, John M 3 1838
EMERTON, Frances F 50 1791
SHAW, Elizabeth F 18 1823 Derbyshire


1851 census transcription details for: Parkfield House, Sheffield
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National Archive Reference:
RG number: HO107
Piece: 2337
Folio: 499
Page: 4
Reg. District: Ecclesall Bierlow
Sub District: Ecclesall Bierlow
Parish:
Enum. District: 1A
Ecclesiastical District: Saint Mary
City/Municipal Borough: Sheffield
Address: Parkfield House, Sheffield
County: Yorkshire (West riding)
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
STEPHENSON, Elenior Head Widow F 53 1798 Independent Lady
Felling, Durham
STEPHENSON, Caroline Daughter Unmarried F 24 1827
Liverpool, Lancashire
STEPHENSON, Mary Jane Daughter Unmarried F 19 1832
Warrington, Lancashire
STEPHENSON, Emma Daughter Unmarried F 18 1833
Warrington, Lancashire
STEPHENSON, Amelia Daughter Unmarried F 16 1835
Warrington, Lancashire
STEPHENSON, Louisa Daughter F 10 1841 Scholar
Harpurhey, Lancashire
STEPHENSON, Adilade Daughter F 6 1845 Scholar
Derbyshire
SHALCROSS, Ann Servant Unmarried F 27 1824 Servant
Kingsley, Cheshire
GRAHAM, Janet Servant F 25 1826 Servant
Edinburgh



1871 census transcription details for: Ten Brook House, West Derby
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National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG10
Piece: 3848
Folio: 67
Page: 17
Reg. District: West Derby
Sub District: West Derby
Parish: West Derby
Enum. District: 53
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Ten Brook House, West Derby
County: Lancashire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born
STEPHENSON, Eleanor Head F 73 1798 interest of money Codurham (should read Durham, Felling)
STEPHENSON, Amelia Daughter F 36 1835 Lancashire
STEPHENSON, Adaline Daughter F 26 1845 Derbyshire
CALLWOOD, Ann Servant F 32 1839 Lancashire


1881 census transcription details for: 445, Mill Bank, West Derby
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National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG11
Piece: 3712
Folio: 48
Page: 29
Reg. District: West Derby
Sub District: West Derby (Rural)
Parish: West Derby
Enum. District:
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: 445, Mill Bank, West Derby
County: Lancashire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
STEPHENSON, Eleanor Head Widow F 83 1798 Annuitant
The Felling, Durham
CADDOCK, Ann Servant Single F 40 1841 Cook Dom Serv
L'pool, Lancashire
BLAKELEY, Janet Servant Single F 28 1853 General Serv
Scotland
MONTGOMERY, Margt Servant F 24 1847 Lancashire

alviegal

alviegal Report 18 Sep 2013 22:37


England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966 about Eleanor Stephenson
Name: Eleanor Stephenson
Probate Date: 16 Oct 1882
Death Date: 26 May 1882
Death Place: Lancashire, England
Registry: Liverpool, England


Personal estate £8,676 14s 11d
Resworn estate 1883 £8,772 18s 11d

The will with a codicile of ES late of Tue Brook House, nr Liverpool widow who died 26 May 1882 at Tue Brook House was proved by the Rev Edmund Boteler Chalmer of Ranmoor Park, Sheffield clerk one of the executors.


EDIT Here is Rev Edmund.



1851 census transcription details for: Parsonage, Sheffield
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National Archive Reference:
RG number: HO107
Piece: 2336
Folio: 280
Page: 19
Reg. District: Ecclesall Bierlow
Sub District: Upper Hallam and Dore
Parish:
Enum. District: 1A
Ecclesiastical District: Fullwood
City/Municipal Borough: Sheffield
Address: Parsonage, Sheffield
County: Yorkshire (West riding)
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
CHALMER, Edmd Boteler Head Married M 46 1805 Incumbent Of Fullwood
Liverpool, Lancashire
CHALMER, Mary Wife Married F 44 1807
Farnworth, Lancashire
CHALMER, Frederick Son M 14 1837
Liverpool, Lancashire
CHALMER, Hamer Son M 11 1840
West Derby, Lancashire
CHALMER, Mary Daughter F 9 1842
Grt Cropley, Lancashire
CHALMER, Thomas Son M 7 1844
Grt Cropley, Lancashire
CHALMER, Margaret A Daughter F 6 1845
Fullwood, Yorkshire
CHALMER, Frances Daughter F 4 1847
Fullwood, Yorkshire
LAWSON, Harriett Servant F 24 1827 General Serv
Sheffield, Yorkshi

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 18 Sep 2013 22:47

There's a tree on Ancestry which agrees with that, Alviegal .

[There are also other trees which don't! One says Eleanor married a John Baker, but doesn't provide any verification. On the other hand, the one which says she married John Stephenson doesn't give proof either!]

alviegal

alviegal Report 18 Sep 2013 22:49

Baptism: 4 Jan 1835 St Elphin, Warrington, Lancashire, England
Amelia Stephenson - Daur of John Stephenson & Eleanor
Abode: Bewsey Road
Occupation: Engineer
Baptised by: T V Bayne
Register: Baptisms 1831 - 1835, Page 252, Entry 2016
Source: LDS Film 1562962


Baptism: 14 Apr 1833 St Elphin, Warrington, Lancashire, England
Emma Frances Stephenson - Daur of John Stephenson & Eleanor
Abode: Bath Buildings
Occupation: Engineer
Baptised by: T V Bayne
Register: Baptisms 1831 - 1835, Page 125, Entry 999
Source: LDS Film 1562962


Baptism: 8 May 1831 St Elphin, Warrington, Lancashire, England
Mary Jane Stephenson - Daur of John Stephenson & Eleanor
Abode: Bewsey Lane
Occupation: Engineer
Baptised by: Thos Lowe Curate
Register: Baptisms 1827 - 1831, Page 299, Entry 2391
Source: LDS Film 1562962


Baptism: 4 Sep 1836 St Elphin, Warrington, Lancashire, England
Eliza Louisa Stephenson - Daur of John Stephenson & Eleanor
Abode: Moore
Occupation: Engineer
Baptised by: T V Bayne
Register: Baptisms 1835 - 1838, Page 78, Entry 618
Source: LDS Film 1532962



Liverpool, England, Baptisms, 1813-1906 about Eleanor Caroline Stephenson
Name: Eleanor Caroline Stephenson
Birth Date: 3 Sep 1827
Baptism Date: 4 Mar 1827
Parish: Edge Hill, St Mary
Father's Name: John Stephenson, contractor
Mother's Name: Eleanor Stephenson
Reference Number: 283 EDG/2/1


??? I wonder if this child died?


Liverpool, England, Baptisms, 1813-1906 about Mary Jane Stephenson
Name: Mary Jane Stephenson
Birth Date: 28 Mar 1829
Baptism Date: 10 May 1829
Parish: Edge Hill, St Mary
Father's Name: John Stephenson, engineer
Mother's Name: Eleanor Stephenson
Reference Number: 283 EDG/2/1

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 18 Sep 2013 22:58

The tree on Ancestry gives John Stephenson's details as follows:

John Stephenson
Birth 9 Jul 1794 in Eighton Banks, Durham, , England
Death 8 Jul 1848 in Rotherham, Derbyshire, , England

Parents:
Robert Stephenson 1761 – 1832
Hannah Robinson 1768 – (Eighton Banks, Durham)

Siblings:

Ann Stephenson 1788 –
Robert Stephenson 1789 – 1852
Isabella Stephenson 1791 –
Edward Stephenson 1799 –
Roger Stephenson 1800 – 1828
Taylor Robinson Stephenson 1805 – 1888
Phillip Stephenson 1807 – 1889

His father:

Robert Stephenson
Birth 1761 in Lamesley, Durham, , England
Death 12 Dec 1832 in Liverpool, Lancashire, , England

Father's siblings:

Robert Stephenson 1758 –
Mary Stephenson 1760 –
Roger Stephenson 1765 –
Philip Stephenson 1767 –

Father's father:
Robert Stephenson
Birth 1729 in Lamesley, Durham, , England

Grandfather Robert's parents:
Thomas Stephenson 1700 –
Margaret Harrison 1701 – born Westmorland

The only verification given is the censuses, plus Eleanor's death & probate.

Reggie

Reggie Report 19 Sep 2013 09:04

This is all incredibly familiar......................

Reggie

Reggie Report 19 Sep 2013 09:09

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1322264


http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1322232