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Mumbles

Mumbles Report 27 Sep 2013 16:26

Can any one help with a marriage in the USA most likely in Philadelphia between 1923 and 1935:
Between: Simon Sadler born 1st Mar 1903 Jarrow Durham England and Catherine Campbell born 6th Nov 1906 Londonderry N. Ireland:
Simon emigrated in 1923 from Liverpool to Boston:

Thank you:

Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 27 Sep 2013 16:59

Is this the family 1930....SEDLER

Simon W Sedler Jr. in household of Simon Sedler, "United States Census, 1930"Name: Simon W Sedler Jr.
Titles and Terms: Jr
Event Type: Census
Event Year: 1930
Event Place: Philadelphia (Districts 0751-1000), Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, United States
District: 0856
Gender: Male
Age: 27
Marital Status: Single
Race: White
Race (Original): White
Relationship to Head of Household: Son
Relationship to Head of Household (Original): Son
Birth Year (Estimated): 1903
Birthplace: England
Immigration Year: 1923
Father's Birthplace: England
Mother's Birthplace: England
Sheet Number and Letter: 5A
Household ID: 74
Line Number: 12
Affiliate Name: The U.S. National Archives and Records Administration (NARA)
Affiliate Publication Number: T626
Affiliate Film Number: 2101
GS Film number: 2341835
Digital Folder Number: 004639438
Image Number: 00139
Household Gender Age Birthplace
Head Simon Sedler M 51 England
Wife Ellen Sedler F 51 England
Son Simon W Sedler Jr. M 27 England
Son-in-law Norman Brown M 34 England
Daughter Sarah E Brown F 32 England
Grandson Robert M Brown M 10 England
Granddaughter Sarah E Brown F 6 England
Grandson Simon W Brown M 1 Pennsylvania
Nephew Robert Kennedy M 19 England

Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 27 Sep 2013 17:02

Check on Births shows following...so looks like mistranscribed on Census

Births Mar 1903 (>99%)
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Sadler Simon William S. Shields 10a 951



Name: Simon William Sadler
Event Type: Naturalization
Event Date: 1940
Event Place: Pennsylvania, United States
Age: 37
Birth Year:
Birthplace:
Affiliate Publication Title: Indexes to Naturalization Petitions to the U.S. Circuit and District Court for the Eastern District of Pennsylvania, 1795-1951
Affiliate Publication Number: M1248
Affiliate Film Number: 55
GS Film number: 001412471
Digital Folder Number: 004110754
Image Number: 04477


Living 2236 N.Reese St Philadelphia PA


Mumbles

Mumbles Report 27 Sep 2013 17:30

Thank you for the census and naturalization details
that will help:

Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 27 Sep 2013 20:17

Cant locate (so far) either him or Catherine 1940 Census

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 27 Sep 2013 20:50

I've searched the 1940 by address hoping to find Simon as the census was taken 8 months before the date of the naturalization.

Sadly it was a family called Ragan at that address.

Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 27 Sep 2013 20:57

Ellen Sadler, "United States Border Crossings from Canada to United States, 1895-1956"Name: Ellen Sadler
Arrival Date: 01 Nov 1923
Arrival Port: Halifax, Nova Scotia, England
Age: 46
Birth Year (Estimated): 1877
Birth Date:
Birthplace: Gateshead,
Birth Country: England
Gender: Female
Race: English
Last Place of Residence:
Accompanied by Name:
Departure Date:
Departure Port: Liverpool, England
Departure Contact Name:
Arrival Contact Name:
Ship Name: Devonian
Airline:
Photograph Included:
Affiliate Publication Title: Manifests of Passengers Arriving in the St. Albans, VT, District through Canadian Pacific and Atlantic Ports, 1895-1954
Affiliate Publication Number: M1464
Affiliate Film Number: 485

Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 27 Sep 2013 21:06

This is Sarah and family (Simons sister) 1940....Cant find parents.
North Sixth St.

Name: Simon Brown
Titles and Terms:
Event Type: Census
Event Date: 1940
Event Place: Ward 19, Philadelphia, Philadelphia City, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, United States
Gender: Male
Age: 11
Marital Status: Single
Race (Original): White
Race: White
Relationship to Head of Household (Original): Son
Relationship to Head of Household: Son
Birthplace: Pennsylvania
Birth Year (Estimated): 1929
Last Place of Residence: Same Place
District: 51-335
Family Number: 188
Sheet Number and Letter: 8A
Line Number: 17
Affiliate Publication Number: T627
Affiliate Film Number: 3697
Digital Folder Number: 005456842
Image Number: 00728
Household Gender Age Birthplace
Head Norman Brown M 46 England
Wife Sarah Brown F 42 England
Son Robert Brown M 20 England
Daughter Sarah Brown F 16 England
Son Simon Brown M 11 Pennsylvania
Daughter Patricia Brown F 3 Pennsylvania


Mumbles

Mumbles Report 27 Sep 2013 21:17

Many thanks for your help you have given me a lot to go on with: :-) :-) :-)

mgnv

mgnv Report 27 Sep 2013 23:43

1930 https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XH7X-FW9
Magnify 4 clicks, then save image:
http://archive.org/stream/fifteenthcensus00reel2101#page/n134/mode/1up

1940 https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/KQWB-PB2 [with image link]
[Sarah in footer too]
Can't find the rest of Sarah's folks.


Marriages Dec 1919 (>99%)
Brown Norman Sadler S. Shields 10a 2089
Hudspith Ralph Urwin S. Shields 10a 2089
Urwin Ethel Hudspith S.Shields 10a 2089
-----------
Sadler Sarah E Brown S.Shields 10a 2069

I submitted the following text as a postem to both the Brown & Sadler entries:
Sarah's page reads 2069, not 2089, but South Tyneside Register Office has a local index online which shows:
Norman BROWN
Spouse: Sarah E SALDER
Register: R 119
Entry: 129
Date: 01/11/1919
I guess R 119 is vol 119 of the registrar's own register.

http://www.southtyneside.info/applications/2/registersearch/default.aspx
I've asked the S Tyne Registrar to check his spelling of Salder.


Marriages Mar 1898 (>99%)
Black Thomas Gateshead 10a 1239
Kennedy Ellen Gateshead 10a 1239
Lawson Annie Agnes Gateshead 10a 1239
Sadler Simon William Gateshead 10a 1239

Mumbles

Mumbles Report 28 Sep 2013 00:18

Thank you mgnv very good of you to sort that out:
Thank you all who helped:

Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 28 Sep 2013 08:27

The following is the only Cath (variations) Campbell b Londonderry abt 1906...
1911 Census.....

Census Years1911LondonderryGlendermotDisertowenResidents of a house
Residents of a house 8 in Disertowen (Glendermot, Londonderry)

Brown Robert 70 Male Head of Family Presbyterian Co Londonderry Agricultural Labourer Read - Married - - - -
Brown Fannie 70 Female Wife Presbyterian Co Donegal - Cannot read - Married - 40 7 3
Mc Garrigle Andrew 27 Male Son in Law Irish Church Co Londonderry Agricultural Labourer Read and write - Married - - - -
Mc Garrigle Annie 33 Female Daughter Irish Church Co Londonderry - Read and write - Married - - -
Dunne Fannie 12 Female Niece Irish Church Co Londonderry Scholar Read and write - Single - - - -
***Campbell Catherine 4 Female Grand Daughter Irish Church***

Next door is John Campbell (36) wife Eliz (36) and children
Robert 5
Samuel 2
William 1

I would hazard a guess they are the parents of Catherine.

mgnv

mgnv Report 28 Sep 2013 10:21

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/search/

Residents of a house 50 in Wellington Street (Londonderry Urban (4), Londonderry)
Show all information
Surname Forename Age Sex Relation to head Religion
Campbell Joseph 45 Male Head of Family Roman Catholic; Read & write; Labourer; M; Co Donegal
Campbell Letitia 38 Female Wife Roman Catholic; Read & write; Marr 20 y, 12 live births, 12 still living; M; Co Donegal
Campbell Eliza 19 Female Daughter Catholic; Read & write; Forestry Worker; S; Derry City
Campbell James 15 Male Son Catholic; Read & write; Scholar; S; Derry City
Campbell Annie 14 Female Daughter Catholic; Read & write; Scholar; S; Derry City
Campbell Joseph 12 Male Son Catholic; Read & write; Scholar; Derry City
Campbell Jennie 10 Female Daughter Catholic; Read & write; Scholar; Derry City
Campbell William 9 Male Son Catholic; Read & write; Scholar; Derry City
Campbell Maggie 7 Female Daughter Catholic; Read & write; Scholar; Derry City
Campbell Patrick 6 Male Son Catholic; Cannot Read; Scholar; Derry City
Campbell Catherine 4 Female Daughter Catholic; Derry City
Campbell Letitia 2 Female Daughter Catholic; Derry City
Campbell Anthony 1 Male Son Catholic; Derry City

I checked for both Cat* and Kat* Cam*l

GlasgowLass

GlasgowLass Report 28 Sep 2013 10:58

Has this been posted already? Apologies if it has.

U.S., Social Security Death Index, 1935-Current about Simon Sadler
Name: Simon Sadler
SSN: 165-01-0558
Last Residence: 19120 Philadelphia, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, USA
Born: 1 Mar 1903
Died: May 1969
State (Year) SSN issued: Pennsylvania (Before 1951)


U.S., Social Security Death Index, 1935-Current about Catherine Sadler
Name: Catherine Sadler
SSN: 168-16-4548
Last Residence: 19120 Philadelphia, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, USA
Born: 6 Nov 1906
Died: Jun 1986
State (Year) SSN issued: Pennsylvania (Before 1951)

GlasgowLass

GlasgowLass Report 28 Sep 2013 11:11

An Obituary for their son..United States Obituary Collection about William S. Sadler

Name of Deceased: William S. Sadler
Death Date: 27 Dec 2008
Obituary Date: 28 Dec 2008
Newspaper Title: Philadelphia Inquirer & Philadelphia Daily News
Newspaper Location: Philadelphia, PA, USA
Residence (at time of death): Olney
Parents' Names: Simon W. and Kathleen (nee Campbell) Sadler
Siblings' Names: Joan Moore & Joseph P. Sadler

U.S., Social Security Death Index, 1935-Current about William S. Sadler
Name: William S. Sadler
Born: 15 Jul 1943
Died: 27 Dec 2008
State (Year) SSN issued: Pennsylvania (1960-1961)


Can't get into the obit link but it's also posted on findagrave...

http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=SAD&GSpartial=1&GSbyrel=all&GSst=40&GScntry=4&GSsr=601&GRid=32477267&

GlasgowLass

GlasgowLass Report 28 Sep 2013 11:32

Mumbles,
Was it a 2nd marriage for Simon?
Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, Marriage Index, 1885-1951 about Simon Salidar
Name: Simon Salidar
Gender: Male
Spouse: Mary Shukman
Spouse Gender: Female
Marriage Place: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, United States
Marriage Year: 1931
Marriage License Number:
605573
Digital GSU Number: 4141824

1940 United States Federal Census about Simon Salidar
Name: Simon Salidar
Age: 36
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1904
Gender: Male
Race: White
Birthplace: England
Marital Status: Married
Relation to Head of House: Son-in-law
Home in 1940: Philadelphia, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
Map of Home in 1940: View Map
Street: Seventh
House Number: 2622
Inferred Residence in 1935: Philadelphia, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
Residence in 1935: Same House
Citizenship: Naturalized
Sheet Number: 16A
Occupation: Jelwer
Attended School or College: No
Highest Grade Completed: Elementary school, 8th grade
Hours Worked Week Prior to Census: 40
Duration of Unemployment: 0
Class of Worker: Wage or salary worker in private work
Weeks Worked in 1939: 52
Income: 1500
Income Other Sources: No
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Charles Gluckman 66
Ethel Gluckman 60
Simon Salidar 36
Mary Salidar 30
Janet Salidar 5
Bernard Goldsmith 27
Helen Goldsmith 24

If Catherine was Simon's 2nd wife, it would explain son William's birth in 1943.
If I have the found the correct daughter Joan, she was born in 1949

Marked As Answer Marked as Answered

Mumbles

Mumbles Report 28 Sep 2013 12:02

Hi to all that have helped, I don't know if it was second marriage for Simon, but thank you all for the details that you have found:
Once again you have all excelled your selves: Many thanks