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Tolley in 1871 census please?

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Nala

Nala Report 5 Nov 2013 11:21

Thank you Margee Reggie Prickly holly for uncovering so much.


Nala. :-)

Nala

Nala Report 5 Nov 2013 11:18



I have just had a Private Message from a Family Member who is willing to meet up with me in Kidderminster and give me more details !!!!

Great.

So please do not look / search any further please.

Thank you all for your help.
:-D Regards from Nala.

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 5 Nov 2013 11:16

England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index, 1837-1915
about Mary Tolley Name: Mary Tolley
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1829
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1882
Age at Death: 53
Registration District: Martley
Inferred County: Worcestershire
Volume: 6c
Page: 131

Margee

Margee Report 5 Nov 2013 11:13

So if the 1871 that PricklyHolly posted is correct he married Mary Shipley who was previously married because there are in-law children, i.e. stepchildren.

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 5 Nov 2013 11:11

England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index, 1837-1915
about Edward Shipley Name: Edward Shipley
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1865
Registration District: Martley
Inferred County: Worcestershire
Volume: 6c
Page: 145

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 5 Nov 2013 11:07

..1861 England Census
about Mary Shipley Name: Mary Shipley
Age: 34
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1827
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Edward Shipley
Gender: Female
Where born: Brierly Hill, Staffordshire, England

Civil Parish: Abberley
County/Island: Worcestershire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View Image

Registration District: Martley
Sub-registration District: Great Witley
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Schedule Number: 57
Piece: 2086
Folio: 19
Page Number: 10
Household Members: Name Age
Edward Shipley 50
Mary Shipley 34
Mary Shipley 10
Emma Shipley 1
Patrick Grogan 20
Peter Murphy 33


1851 England Census
about Mary Shipley Name: Mary Shipley
Age: 27
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1824
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Edward Shipley
Gender: F (Female)
Where born: Staffordshire, England

Civil Parish: Abberley
County/Island: Worcestershire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration District: Martley
Sub-registration District: Martley
ED, institution, or vessel: 3a
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Schedule Number: 50
Piece: 2041
Folio: 159
Page Number: 14
Household Members: Name Age
Edward Shipley 50
Mary Shipley 27
Mary Shipley 8 Mo


I think by the time of the 1861 census, Edward had knocked 10 years off his age...


..1841 England Census
about Edward Shipley Name: Edward Shipley
Age: 40
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1801
Gender: Male
Where born: Worcestershire, England

Civil Parish: Abberley
Hundred: Doddingtree (Lower Division)
County/Island: Worcestershire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation: View Image

Registration District: Martley
Sub-registration District: Great Witley
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1192
Book: 1
Folio: 17
Page Number: 5
Household Members: Name Age
Edward Shipley 40
Mary Shipley 40
Edward Shipley 15 (Coal Miner)
Samuel Shipley 12








PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 5 Nov 2013 11:04

If the above is correct....

1881 England Census
about Thomas Tolley Name: Thomas Tolley
Age: 33
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1848
Relationship to Head: Head
Spouse: Mary Tolley
Gender: Male
Where born: Lindridge, Worcestershire, England

Civil Parish: Abberley
County/Island: Worcestershire
Country: England

Street Address: Glazards Green
Marital Status: Married
Education:

Employment status: View Image
Occupation: Coal Miner

Registration District: Martley
Sub-registration District: Witley
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 2909
Folio: 17
Page Number: 3
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Tolley 33
Mary Tolley 52
William Halfpenny 23 (Son in Law)
Lucy Halfpenny 19 (Daughter in Law)
William Tolley 14

Mary must have been married before.


Reggie

Reggie Report 5 Nov 2013 11:00

So, if those censuses are the right family, the birth year is way out..........as is the birthplace

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 5 Nov 2013 11:00

???

1871 England Census
about Thomas Soley Name: Thomas Soley
Age: 27
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1844
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary Soley
Gender: Male
Where born: Frith Common, Worcestershire, England
Civil Parish: Abberley
County/Island: Worcestershire
Country: England
Registration District: Martley
Sub-registration District: Great Witley
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Household Schedule Number: 38
Piece: 3042
Folio: 17
Page Number: 8
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Soley 27 (Coal Miner)
Mary Soley 41
Emma Shipley 11 (Daughter in Law)
Lucy Shipley 5 (Daughter in Law)
James Toley 3
Lodgers.....
Benjamin Edwards 34
Domnic Moran 23
Mary Glazard 30
Greeley Glazard 6 Months



PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 5 Nov 2013 10:58

Is this him in 1861...

??

..1861 England Census
about Thomas Tolley Name: Thomas Tolley
Age: 17
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1844
Relation: Son
Father's Name: John Tolley
Mother's Name: Ann Tolley
Gender: Male
Where born: Lindridge, Worcestershire, England

Civil Parish: Lindridge
County/Island: Worcestershire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View Image

Registration District: Tenbury
Sub-registration District: Bockleton
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Schedule Number: 14
Piece: 2084
Folio: 82
Page Number: 3
Household Members: Name Age
John Tolley 62
Ann Tolley 61
John Tolley 21
Thomas Tolley 17
Edward Tolley 15
Charles Tolley 12



Margee

Margee Report 5 Nov 2013 10:58

Is this him?

1851 England Census
about Thomas Tolley Name: Thomas Tolley
Age: 8
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1843
Relation: Son
Father's Name: John Tolley
Mother's Name: Ann Tolley
Gender: M (Male)
Where born: Lindridge, Worcestershire, England

Civil Parish: Lindridge
County/Island: Worcestershire
Country: England

Registration District: Tenbury
Sub-registration District: Tenbury
ED, institution, or vessel: 10b
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Schedule Number: 74
Piece: 2040
Folio: 257
Page Number: 21
Household Members: Name Age
John Tolley 50
Ann Tolley 52
John Tolley 12
Margret Tolley 10
Thomas Tolley 8
Edward Tolley 5
Charles Tolley 2
Margret Tolley 77



Reggie

Reggie Report 5 Nov 2013 10:56

How do you know that the marriage is for the person you are looking for?

Nala

Nala Report 5 Nov 2013 10:53

Thomas was the son of John Tolley and Ann Haynes of Stourport.



I think i will send for the Marriage cert of his wedding and work from there.

Nala.

Margee

Margee Report 5 Nov 2013 10:50

How did you get his year and place of birth?

Reggie

Reggie Report 5 Nov 2013 10:49

Who were Thomas's parents?

No obvious record of him in 1861

EDIT:

Found this, which shows different birth year

1861 census


Person: TOLLEY, Thomas Vessel: 21Goods Of Different Descriptions Port/place: Stourport

TOLLEY, Thomas M 12 1849 Boatman
Stourport, Worcestershire

Margee

Margee Report 5 Nov 2013 10:48

Are you descended from a child? If so a birth certificate would give mother's name.

Nala

Nala Report 5 Nov 2013 10:45

Reggie Family search does not throw up much

and Margee I am trying to find out which Mary he married via the census birthdates and places of the Mary's births.

Nala.

Margee

Margee Report 5 Nov 2013 10:42

Which Mary did he marry in 1868?

Marriages Mar 1868 (>99%)
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Kelly John Kidderminster 6c 221
Reeves Mary Kidderminster 6c 221
SHIPLEY Mary Kidderminster 6c 221
Tolley Thomas Kidderminster 6c 221

Reggie

Reggie Report 5 Nov 2013 10:40

Have you looked at.................

https://familysearch.org/

Where was he in 1881?

How did you work back to this couple?

Nala

Nala Report 5 Nov 2013 10:20

I am looking for a Thomas Tolley born 1847 in Stourport, Worcestershire and his wife Mary in the 1871 census please.
Could someone please help me find him?

I know that he married in the Kidderminster district in the year 1868.

Any children?
Any Address?
Any Occupation?

Regards Nala. :-)