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My great grandfather is proving to be very elusive to trace. According to the 1881 Census he was born in Walsall, aged 23, living in Workington, Cumberland.
He was married in August 1879 in Workington, Cumberland. His father is named as Henry Powell, a silversmith, deceased.
He died December 1888, aged 31, in Workington, Cumberland.
I have tried various Henrys who might have been him but proved not to be so.
Until I get his birth certificate I cannot trace his line further back.
Can anyone out there help, please?

As there were no penalties for not registering births until 1875, you may never find one

have you looked for a baptism?

I have tried to find a baptism but can only do this online as I live in Cumbria.

The trouble is I can't find him on the '61 or '71 Census either.

The 1881 records his birthplace as 'Walsall, Warwickshire'.................one of which is not correct.

As his deceased father had been a silversmith, one has to wonder whether in fact he was born nearer to Birmingham.............................just a thought

Who witnessed the marriage?

And what was his recorded age?

I realised that Walsall and Staffordshire did not match up, but wondered if at that time perhaps Walsall was said to be in Staffordshire.
I have also considered the possibility that the father's name was not Henry but was written as that by mistake after the Henry getting married.
He was married in August 1879, aged 22 to Jane Burrow, aged 21 in Workington, Cumberland. He made his mark but Jane signed her name.
The witnesses were John Taylor and Mary Burrow, Jane's sister.
I have no idea when his father died.

It seems Walsall was in Staffs

a bit of a long shot not very likely

First Name WILLIAM HENRY
Last Name POWELL
Mother's Maiden Name -
Year 1858
Event Quarter 4
Month of Registration -
Country England
County Staffordshire
District WALSALL
Volume 6B
Page 481
Line Number 24
Record set England & Wales births 1837-2006
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Record collection Births & baptisms
Collections from Great Britain

Is this a possibilitiy ?



Name:
William Henry Powell

Date of Registration:Oct-Nov-Dec 1858

Registration district:Walsall
Inferred County:Staffordshire

Volume:6b
Page:481

there is this henry in 1861 but father is George

1861 England Census about Henry Powell
Name: Henry Powell
Age: 7
Estimated birth year: 1854
Relation: Son
Father's Name: George Powell
Mother's name: Ann Powell
Gender: Male
Where born: Walsall, Staffordshire, England

Civil Parish: Walsall Foreign
Ecclesiastical parish: Bloxwich
Town: Walsall
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

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Registration district: Walsall
Sub-registration district: Bloxwich
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 18
Piece: 2012
Folio: 71
Page Number: 4
Household Members:
Name Age
George Powell 34
Ann Powell 29
Lucy Powell 11
David Powell 8
Henry Powell 7
George Powell 1

for reference :
1881

Henry Powell 23 - Nut & Bolt Forger - Walsall
Jane Powell 21 - Workington
Mary A. Powell 1 - workington


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1891 - where is Henry ?

Jane Powell 31 -
Mary Ann Powell 11
Isabella Powell 9
Janie Powell 7
Ada Powell 5
John B Powell 4
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Jane is a widow on 1911 census

You have all missed my point.......!!!!!!

Walsall WAS in STAFFS

...........on the census his birthplace is recorded as Walsall, WARWICKSHIRE

Mike*

The original request clearly states that he died in 1888

Quite right ... missed that.

Sorry Reggie.

I made an error when I replied to you. I meant to say I realised Walsall and Warwickshire didn't match up.

I have trawled through umpteen Henrys from the Birmingham area also. I haven't come across anyone yet that I find might be correct.

I did try to find a Powell who was a silversmith on the 1851 Census but couldn't find one. I thought it might have given me a different Christian name but worth following up.

I have been searching for him on and off for years now. That line of the family is in limbo.