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Valerie Report 23 Apr 2014 10:47


Trying to find death records for a Fred Sanders born 1853 birmi ngham England u k to a Henry and Harriett Sanders,he may have emigrated to N Z after 1880 he was a jeweller. he was married to a Matilda Herridge but they were not together, I have found her records here.

Hope you can help

from Valerie Mucklow (Nee Sanders) U K

Mike *

Mike * Report 23 Apr 2014 11:00

Just to give correct names

Fred Sanders

Birth: 1853
Death: Bet. 1891–1901
Marriage: 1876 -
Parents: William Henry Sanders, Harriet Richardson
Spouse: Elsie Matilda Herridge

Marriages Sep 1876 )

Bunting Mercy Birmingham 6d 305
Hall Reginald Harry Birmingham 6d 305
Herridge Elsie Matilda Birmingham 6d 305
SANDERS Frederick Birmingham 6d 305

Mike *

Mike * Report 23 Apr 2014 11:03

Maybe he was born 1852

Births Jun 1852
SANDERS Frederick - Birmingham 6d 20


greyghost Report 23 Apr 2014 11:09

This is the only birth showing 1853 on freebmd, so are we looking for a Frederic?

Births Jun 1853 (>99%)
SANDERS Frederic Birmingham 6d 205

No death showing on above free site 1890-1905, what makes you think he died between those dates?

Mike *

Mike * Report 23 Apr 2014 11:12

Your tree on Ancestry has Fred born 1857 ??????

is this your Fred ?


Henry Sanders 62 - jeweller
Henry Sanders 32 - jeweller
William Sanders 24 - jeweller
Kate Sanders 22
Frederick Sanders 14 - Birmingham
Ellen Sanders 8
Hannah Perks 26 - servant


Valerie Report 23 Apr 2014 12:39


The reason for his death date is that on the 1901 census for his wife she is a widow, but on the 1891 for his wife she is married.

The Frederick born 1857 wasn't ours. I haven't altered it on Genes yet.
His name was Frederick

The above family names are correct.

Frederick isn't on any census after 1871 which makes me think he emigrated. .

he was married to Matilda Elsie Herridge. in Birmingham 1876 they had 2 daughters. I have found the Herridge descendants they have no info.
Matilda dau Elsie E married a Wendover, she died and he remarried, and had children, I have traced their descendansts, they have no info either except for a photo of Elsie E

Thanks for your help I have only just found this site.

from Valerie


Valerie Report 23 Apr 2014 12:40


Mike *

Mike * Report 23 Apr 2014 15:51

2 threads for same request


ArgyllGran Report 23 Apr 2014 18:10

Partly my fault, Mike -
in response to a PM from Valerie, I advised her to add some mention of New Zealand to the title of her original thread, in hope of attracting the attention of someone there who might be able to look up other info.

However, unfortunately she has started a new thread instead.

Mike *

Mike * Report 23 Apr 2014 18:30

Well as long as there's link to the other thread it sort of stays connected.


Valerie Report 26 Apr 2014 05:01 case it helps - the 'National Library of NZ' (on-line) has an 'Ask Us' librarian service. Hopefully they can trace him/family from electoral rolls (past & present) ...and also any possible newspaper death notices.

Valerie (WAus)