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David Douglas born circa 1804

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Kelly

Kelly Report 14 Aug 2014 20:01

Connections with Gladsmuir married to Catherine born about 1796
Daughters Marion 1829 , Mary 1837 and Elizabeth 1840

BeverleyW

BeverleyW Report 14 Aug 2014 20:13

Daughter Mary showing Catherine's maiden name:

County East Lothian
Place Gladsmuir
Church Gladsmuir Parish Church
RegisterNumber
DateOfBirth 07 Apr 1836
BaptismDate 24 Apr 1836
Forename Mary
Sex F
FatherForename David
MotherForename Catherine
FatherSurname DOUGLAS
MotherSurname HADDEN
Abode Setonhill
FatherOccupation Farm Servant

BeverleyW

BeverleyW Report 14 Aug 2014 20:14

And daughter Elisabeth

County East Lothian
Place Gladsmuir
Church Gladsmuir Parish Church
RegisterNumber
DateOfBirth 29 May 1840
BaptismDate 07 Jun 1840
Forename Elisabeth
Sex F
FatherForename David
MotherForename Catherine
FatherSurname DOUGLAS
MotherSurname HADDEN
Abode Redcoll
FatherOccupation Farm Servant

BeverleyW

BeverleyW Report 14 Aug 2014 20:15

A previous Mary who presumably died an infant

County East Lothian
Place Aberlady
Church Aberlady Parish Church
RegisterNumber
DateOfBirth 27 Apr 1833
BaptismDate 05 May 1833
Forename Mary
Sex F
FatherForename David
MotherForename Katherine
FatherSurname DOUGLAS
MotherSurname HADDEN
Abode
FatherOccupation
Notes Wts Peter Douglas And William Hadden

BeverleyW

BeverleyW Report 14 Aug 2014 20:17

Marion

County East Lothian
Place Gladsmuir
Church Gladsmuir Parish Church
RegisterNumber
DateOfBirth 07 Jun 1829
BaptismDate 13 Jul 1829
Forename Marion
Sex F
FatherForename David
MotherForename Catherine
FatherSurname DOUGLAS
MotherSurname HADDEN
Abode Hairlaw
FatherOccupation Farm Servant

PollyPoppet

PollyPoppet Report 14 Aug 2014 20:17


1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census



Household Information

Street REDCOLL
Parish GLADSMUIR
City
County Haddingtonshire (East Lothian)
Division Of County
Ecclesiastical District
Enumeration District 6
Hamlet REDCOLL
House Name REDCOLL
House Number
Parliamentary Borough
Municipal Ward
Registration District
Category Census, Land & Surveys
Record set 1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Collections from Great Britain

Person 1

First Name DAVID
Last Name DOUGLAS
Birth Year 1804
Age 47
Birth Place Scotland
Birth Town Inveresk
Birth County Midlothian
Relationship To Head of Household HEAD
Gender Male
Occupation AG LAB
Folio
Page
Piece Number
Source
Archive Reference

Person 2

First Name CATHERINE
Last Name DOUGLAS
Birth Year 1796
Age 55
Birth Place Scotland
Birth Town Gladsmuir
Birth County Haddingtonshire (East Lothian)
Relationship To Head of Household WIFE
Gender Female
Occupation AG LAB WIFE
Folio
Page
Piece Number
Source
Archive Reference

Person 3

First Name MARY
Last Name DOUGLAS
Birth Year 1837
Age 14
Birth Place Scotland
Birth Town Gladsmuir
Birth County Haddingtonshire (East Lothian)
Relationship To Head of Household DAUGHTER
Gender Female
Occupation AG LAB
Folio
Page
Piece Number
Source
Archive Reference

Person 4

First Name ELIZABETH
Last Name DOUGLAS
Birth Year 1841
Age 10
Birth Place Scotland
Birth Town Gladsmuir
Birth County Haddingtonshire (East Lothian)
Relationship To Head of Household DAUGHTER
Gender Female
Occupation SCHOLAR

BeverleyW

BeverleyW Report 14 Aug 2014 20:18

Just out of interest - the father named here shares surname and address with David Douglas so could be a brother:
Check the vicar's note at the end!


County East Lothian
Place Gladsmuir
Church Gladsmuir Parish Church
RegisterNumber
DateOfBirth 30 Aug 1829
BaptismDate 20 Sep 1829
Forename Mary
Sex F
FatherForename John
MotherForename Janet
FatherSurname DOUGLAS
MotherSurname WALLACE
Abode Harelaw
FatherOccupation Farmservant
Notes A Single Man And A Single Woman Had A Daughter Born In Fornication Baptized By Rev Mr Smith Minister Of Aberlady

BeverleyW

BeverleyW Report 14 Aug 2014 20:19

Parents' marriage

Church Gladsmuir Parish Church
RegisterNumber
MarriageDate 24 May 1829
GroomForename David
GroomSurname DOUGLAS
GroomAge
GroomParish Gladsmuir
GroomCondition
GroomOccupation Farm Servant
GroomAbode Hairlaw
BrideForename Catherine
BrideSurname HADDEN
BrideAge
BrideParish Gladsmuir
BrideCondition
BrideOccupation
BrideAbode Longniddry
GroomFatherForename

PollyPoppet

PollyPoppet Report 14 Aug 2014 20:19


1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census



Household Information

Street
County Haddingtonshire (East Lothian)
Parish GLADSMUIR
City
Town
Ecclesiastical District
Parliamentary Borough
Enumeration District 5
Registration District GLADSMUIR
Country SCOTLAND
Category Census, Land & Surveys
Record set 1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Collections from Great Britain

Person 1

First Name CATHERINE
Last Name DOUGLAS
Birth Year 1796
Age 65
Birth Town Gladsmuir
Birth County Haddingtonshire (East Lothian)
Birth Place Scotland
Relationship To Head of Household HEAD
Gender Female
Occupation WIDOW OF AN AG LAB
Condition WIDOW
Archive Reference RG09
Folio
Page
Piece Number

Person 2

First Name ELIZABETH
Last Name DOUGLAS
Birth Year 1841
Age 20
Birth Town Gladsmuir
Birth County Haddingtonshire (East Lothian)
Birth Place Scotland
Relationship To Head of Household DAUGHTER
Gender Female
Occupation DOMESTIC SERVT
Condition UNMARRIED
Archive Reference RG09

BeverleyW

BeverleyW Report 14 Aug 2014 20:24

Maybe

County East Lothian
Place Gladsmuir
Church Gladsmuir Parish Church
RegisterNumber
DateOfBirth 06 Jun 1795
BaptismDate 14 Jun 1795
Forename Catherine
Sex F
FatherForename George
MotherForename Mey
FatherSurname HADDON
MotherSurname WIGHT
Abode Longniddry
FatherOccupation Baker

BeverleyW

BeverleyW Report 14 Aug 2014 20:25

1841



Piece: SCT1841/708 Place: Gladsmuir -East Lothian Enumeration District: 6
Civil Parish: Gladsmuir Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: -
Folio: 0 Page: 5
Address: Redcoll

DOUGLES David M 35 Ag Lab Outside Census County (1841)
DOUGLES Cathrine F 37 East Lothian
DOUGLES Marrion F 12 East Lothian
DOUGLES Mary F 5 East Lothian
DOUGLES Elisabeth F 1 East Lothian
PEDDEN Petter M 16 Ag Lab East Lothian

Kelly

Kelly Report 14 Aug 2014 20:52

Thank you so much for this . If I wanted to find David Douglas family in Inveresk would I need to contact the church ?

BeverleyW

BeverleyW Report 14 Aug 2014 21:36

A possibility:

Name: David Douglas
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 07 Aug 1803
Christening Place: , SOUTH LEITH, MIDLOTHIAN, SCOTLAND
Birth Date: 28 Jul 1803
Father's Name: Hugh Douglas
Mother's Name: Janet Stewart

You could also check www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk which is a pay per view site.
There are 3 David Douglas born in Midlothian between 1800 and 1806, one in south Leith which is the one I have found here on familysearch.
None in Inveresk itself.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 14 Aug 2014 21:58

In the Ancestry version of that 1851 census, David's birthplace is transcribed as Innerwick, which is near Dunbar, in East Lothian. (Tantallon Castle is also in East Lothian, near North Berwick.)

You'd have to view the census on SP to see what the image actually says.

SP shows no births of a David Douglas in Innerwick - but then registration wasn't compulsory at that time. There are these East Lothian births - two of them are duplicated, with different GROS numbers:

05/06/1810 DOUGLAS DAVID ROBERT DOUGLAS/JEAN SEADMAN FR733 (FR733) M ABERLADY /EAST LOTHIAN 702/00 0040 0128


13/06/1800 DOUGLASS DAVID ALEXANDER DOUGLASS/JEAN COWAN FR943 (FR943) M NORTH BERWICK /EAST LOTHIAN 713/00 0040 0152

24/03/1805 DOUGLASS DAVID JOHN DOUGLASS/HELEN LOTHIAN FR1434 (FR1434) M NORTH BERWICK /EAST LOTHIAN 713/00 0050 0281

24/03/1805 DOUGLASS DAVID JOHN DOUGLASS/HELEN LOTHIAN FR965 (FR965) M NORTH BERWICK /EAST LOTHIAN 713/00 0040 0172

31/03/1805 DOUGLASS DAVID JAMES DOUGLASS/JEAN HANNAN FR965 (FR965) M NORTH BERWICK /EAST LOTHIAN 713/00 0040 0172

31/03/1805 DOUGLASS DAVID JAMES DOUGLASS/JEAN HANNAN FR1435 (FR1435) M NORTH BERWICK /EAST LOTHIAN 713/00 0050 0282



BeverleyW

BeverleyW Report 14 Aug 2014 22:03

But in 1841 he is said to be born out of county....

alviegal

alviegal Report 14 Aug 2014 22:50

A tree on ancestry has this but there is no evidence to back it up.




David Douglas

Birth
1802 22 Dec
Inveresk, Musselburgh parish, Midlothian

Marriage to Catherine Hadden
1863 3 Jul Age: 60
Gladsmuir parish, East Lothian


PARENTS


Peter Douglas



Marriage to Marion Dingwall
1791 8 Feb
Tranent parish, East Lothian


EDIT Well they have they marriage of David and Catherine wrong for a start.






rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 14 Aug 2014 22:53

Not sure why you have started this thread and not followed David Douglas on the Mary Douglas Chirnside thread. Some of the info here is on that thread.

Have you looked on Scotlandspeople to see if David died after statutory registration began in 1855 and before the 1861 census please? If he did his parents will be named on the death registration if the informant knew the details.

alviegal

alviegal Report 14 Aug 2014 23:00

Another tree has the marriage record and also the same parents.


Marriage to Catherine Hadden
1829 21 May Age: 26
Gladsmuir East Lothian Scotland

Catherine's parents were


George Hadden
– 1827

Marion Wight


and they were named in her death certificate in 1874.



Death
1874 19 Dec Age: 67
4 West Richmond Street Edinburgh Scotland
Catherine Hadden widow of David Douglas farm servant, Parents - George Hadden baker deceased, Marion Wright deceased, Death reported by daughter Elizabeth Brockie. Living with her daughter Elizabeth Brockie and her family



Cause of Death
Chronic Bronchitis years




Family Members
Parents

George Hadden
– 1827

Marion Wight

David Douglas
1802 –

Marion Douglas
1829 – 1907

Mary Douglas
1832 – 1834

Mary Douglas
1837 –

Elizabeth Douglas
1840 – 1893

BeverleyW

BeverleyW Report 15 Aug 2014 07:28

That tree fits exactly with the info posted from FreeReg, above..
(FreeReg is very good for East Lothian).

Kelly

Kelly Report 15 Aug 2014 19:21

I have David Douglas as having being born in Inveresk in 1804