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Finding a mother & Father

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marje

marje Report 15 Aug 2014 18:18

I have tracked down a relative Ellenor (Ellen) Rayner maiden name Fairburn born 1798 in Yorkshire (Hartshead) I would love to know about her parents.. No luck on Genes so far finding much about her. Lots of the Rayner family were from that area .Although my Maternal Grandfather named Fairburn Rayner was born in Manchester 1878... Thank You for any help. Marje

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 15 Aug 2014 18:25

Just putting for reference - I know you probably have this, but it helps us to put her in context. A few Ancestry trees have her parents as John and Sarah *Smith), though not sure where that came from!

1851 England Census
Name: Ellenor Rayner
Age: 53
Estimated birth year: abt 1798
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Henry Rayner
Gender: Female
Where born: Clifton, Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish: Hartshead cum Clifton
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Registration district: Halifax
Sub-registration district: Rastrick

Henry Rayner 54
Ellenor Rayner 53
Thomas Rayner 21
Ellenor Rayner 19
Mary Rayner 14
John Rayner 8




AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 15 Aug 2014 18:29

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Name: Ellen Rayner
Event Type: Death
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration Year: 1871
Registration District: Halifax
County: Yorkshire
Event Place: Halifax, Yorkshire, England
Age (available after 1866): 73
Birth Year (Estimated): 1798
Volume: 9A
Page: 265
Line Number: 7

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 15 Aug 2014 18:38

Name: Henry Rayner
Spouse's Name: Eleanor Fairburn
Event Date: 13 Aug 1818
Event Place: Hartshead, York, England
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M01697-7 , System Origin: England-EASy , GS Film number: 1542089 , Reference ID: it.8,p.22,no.64

Mary

Mary Report 15 Aug 2014 19:37

She had amongst others Lydia and Joah (unusual)

So was her parents John 1754-1803 and Sarah nee Smith 1758,they baptised many children including a Joah and Lydia also a Ann 27/5/1798 maybe this was Ellen/Ellinor??

Maryb.

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 15 Aug 2014 19:48

This is Ellen(or) in 1841 ................as Mary says, she has some unusual names for her children, and this could be a lead to finding the parents


Name: Ellen Rayner
Age: 43
Estimated birth year: abt 1798
Gender: Female
Where born: Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish: Clifton
Hundred: Morley
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Registration district: Halifax
Sub-registration district: Brighouse

Henry Rayner 40
Ellen Rayner 43
Yoah Rayner 18
Hannah Rayner 15
Furburn Rayner 14 <<<<< Fairburn on image
Thomas Rayner 11
Ellen Rayner 9
Harriot Rayner 7
Mary Rayner 5
Robinson Rayner 2

Address:- Clifton

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 15 Aug 2014 19:56

This tree has the following .............. but there are no documents cited to prove what is posted


Jacobs
Owner: barjan132

ELEANOR Ann FAIRBURN
Birth 27 May 1798 in Clifton, Yorkshire, England
Death 28 Aug 1871 in Yorkshire West Riding, United Kingdom


Parents

John Fairburn
1754 – 1803

Sarah Smith
1758 –




John Fairburn
Birth 1754 in Clifton, Yorkshire, England
Death 29 May 1803 in Clifton, Yorkshire, England


SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 15 Aug 2014 20:18

Mary mentioned that the putative parents also had children called Joah and Lydia ............


here's the baptism for a Joah Fairburn in Clifton with father John. No name of parent however


This is from http://www.freereg.org.uk/


Search Record Details
County West Riding YKS
Place Hartshead
Church St Peter
RegisterNumber
DateOfBirth
BaptismDate 31 Aug 1788
Forename Joah
Sex M
FatherForename John
MotherForename
FatherSurname FAIRBURN
MotherSurname
Abode Clifton
FatherOccupation Wiredrawer
Notes
FileNumber 2899




These are other baptisms in Hartshead during the period of interest.

Note there is an Ann in 1798


# Record Type Baptism Date Surname Forename County Place Name Found As

Baptisms 09 Aug 1778 FAIRBURN Hannah West Riding YKS Hartshead Father Surname

Baptisms 16 Nov 1779 FAIRBURN Salley West Riding YKS Hartshead Father Surname

Baptisms 11 Mar 1781 FAIRBURN Judeth West Riding YKS Hartshead Father Surname

Baptisms 25 Dec 1782 FAIRBURN John West Riding YKS Hartshead Father Surname

Baptisms 20 Sep 1784 FAIRBURN Lydia West Riding YKS Hartshead Father Surname

Baptisms 15 Oct 1786 FAIRBURN Ben West Riding YKS Hartshead Father Surname

Baptisms 31 Aug 1788 FAIRBURN Joah West Riding YKS Hartshead Father Surname

Baptisms 04 Apr 1790 FAIRBURN George West Riding YKS Hartshead Father Surname

Baptisms 08 Apr 1792 FAIRBURN Robert West Riding YKS Hartshead Father Surname

Baptisms 23 Mar 1794 FAIRBURN Betty West Riding YKS Hartshead Father Surname
Baptisms 17 Apr 1796 FAIRBURN Mary West Riding YKS Hartshead Father Surname

Baptisms 27 May 1798 FAIRBURN Ann West Riding YKS Hartshead Father Surname

Baptisms 27 Jul 1800 FAIRBURN Davide West Riding YKS Hartshead Father Surname

Baptisms 12 Dec 1802 FAIRBURN Harriot West Riding YKS Hartshead Father Surname


All Have Father John Fairburn, occupation Wiredrawer

No name for mother (not unusual at that time)


plus this baptism in 1806 ...............

County West Riding YKS
Place Hartshead
Church St Peter
RegisterNumber
DateOfBirth
BaptismDate 15 Jul 1806
Forename Zillah
Sex F
FatherForename
MotherForename Sarah
FatherSurname
MotherSurname FAIRBURN
Abode Clifton
FatherOccupation Widdow
Notes
FileNumber 2899




In view of the above, could this be John Fairburn's marriage?

from the above freeReg site


County West Riding YKS
Place Hartshead
Church St Peter
RegisterNumber
MarriageDate 20 Jul 1778
GroomForename John
GroomSurname Fairburn
GroomAge
GroomParish
GroomCondition
GroomOccupation
GroomAbode
BrideForename Sarah
BrideSurname Smith
BrideAge
BrideParish
BrideCondition
BrideOccupation
BrideAbode
GroomFatherForename
GroomFatherSurname
GroomFatherOccupation
BrideFatherForename
BrideFatherSurname
BrideFatherOccupation
WitnessOneForename George
WitnessOneSurname Brearley
WitnessTwoForename Joshua
WitnessTwoSurname Goldthorp
Notes
FileNumber 2903

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 15 Aug 2014 20:28

some of the above baptisms are also on ancestry

for example ................

Yorkshire, England, Extracted Parish Records about Ann John Fairburn

Text: 27 May 1798 Ann dr of John Fairburn of Clifton Wiredrawer
Book: Baptisms. (Baptism)
Collection: Yorkshire: Hartshead - Parish Registers (Christenings, Marriages & Burials): 1612-1812



and this burial



Yorkshire, England, Extracted Parish Records about John Fairburn

Text: 29 May 1803 John Fairburn of Clifton Wiredrawer
Book: Burials. (Burial)
Collection: Yorkshire: Hartshead - Parish Registers (Christenings, Marriages & Burials): 1612-1812




and the marriage of John and Sarah



Yorkshire, England, Extracted Parish Records about John Fairburn Sarah Smith

Text: 20 Jul 1778 John Fairburn and Sarah Smith, by me John Crosse, Minr. Witnesses, George Brearley, Joshua Goldthorp
Book: Marriages. (Marriage)
Collection: Yorkshire: Hartshead - Parish Registers (Christenings, Marriages & Burials): 1612-1812

Mary

Mary Report 15 Aug 2014 21:27

Henry Rayner also a Wiredrawer.

Maryb.

marje

marje Report 16 Aug 2014 08:48

Thank You Sylvia ,Ann Jan & Mary You've all helped me so much Will now research Ellenors Parents ,, Marje