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Hi I am trying to find out the birth parents of my grandmother Constance Myrtle Holder born in 1911 in Horsham west sussex . And married Archie Grayling in 1933

And the birth Parents of Archie Grayling Born 1910 in Eastbourne west sussex .

I thank you for nay help in advance or where I need to go for information or if theres any grayling or Holder families with trees on here . I tried searching for a family tree for both and cant find one .

:-)

Welcome to the boards, Jayne.

A first step would be to buy their birth and marriage certificates, which would tell you their parents' names.

Births Jun 1911 (>99%)
Holder Constance M Horsham 2b 269

Births Sep 1910 (>99%)
GRAYLING Archie Eastbourne 2b 70


Marriages Jun 1933 (>99%)
Grayling Archie Holder Eastbourne 2b 216
Holder Constance M Grayling Eastbourne 2b 216


Order from the GRO website, quoting the ref nos. above.
http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/

Death index gives DOB of 5th June 1911

Constance Myrtle Grayling
Birth Date: 5 Jun 1911
Date of Registration: Oct 1985
Age at Death: 74
Registration district: Eastbourne
Inferred County: Sussex
Volume: 18
Page: 635

This looks like Archie in 1911 census:


1911 England Census about Archie Grayland
Name: Archie Grayland
Age in 1911: 8/12
Estimated birth year: abt 1910
Relation to Head: Son
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Eastbourne, Sussex
Civil Parish: Eastbourne
County/Island: Sussex
Country: England
Street address: 155 Langney Rd Eastbourne
Registration district: Eastbourne
Registration District Number: 71
Sub-registration district: Eastbourne
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Household schedule number: 93
Piece: 4824
Household Members:
Name Age
George Goddard 60
Louisa Goddard 52
Herbert Grayland 35 - Lodger
Hannah Grayland 26 - Herbert's wife
Archie Grayland 8/12

Make freebmd your friend

http://www.freebmd.org.uk/

Look there for BMD info from 1837 to around the 1950's-60's

1901 England Census about Herbert Grayling
Name: Herbert Grayling
Age: 26
Estimated birth year: abt 1875
Relation to Head: Stepson
Gender: Male
Mother: Elizabeth Luxford
Birth Place: Eastbourne, Sussex, England
Civil Parish: Pevensey
Ecclesiastical parish: Pevensey St Nicholas
Town: Pevensey
County/Island: Sussex
Country: England
Registration district: Eastbourne
Sub-registration district: Westham
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 878
Folio: 6
Page Number: 3
Household schedule number: 18
Household Members:
Name Age
Charles Luxford 50
Elizabeth Luxford 48
Percy Luxford 19
Charlie Luxford 12
Herbert Grayling 26 stepson - porter at unpholsterer
Ellen Grayling 24 stepdaughter
Percy Grayling 3 grandson

Three members have Archie Grayling 1910 in trees on this site.

Two of them (plus one other) also have Constance in their trees.

Do you know how to look for connections on here?

Herbert's mothers second marriage -

EDIT: actually only marriage - see 1881 census below, when she is single, not widowed:

Marriages Sep 1883 (>99%)
GRAYLING Eliza Tunbridge 2a 1015
Grayling Elizabeth Tunbridge 2a 1015
LUXFORD Charles Tunbridge 2a 1015

In 1881, Charles was a boarder with Elizabeth (Bessy). She is unmarried, so presumably Herbert was illegitimate:

1881 England Census about Herbert Grayling
Name: Herbert Grayling
Age: 6
Estimated birth year: abt 1875
Relationship to Head: Son
Mother: Bessy A. Grayling
Gender: Male
Where born: Eastbourne, Sussex, England
Civil Parish: Hailsham
County/Island: Sussex
Country: England
Street address: 9 Brook Street
Occupation: Scholar
Registration district: Hailsham
Sub-registration district: Hailsham
ED, institution, or vessel: 4a
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1041
Folio: 66
Page Number: 15
Household Members:
Name Age
Bessy A. Grayling 27
Herbert Grayling 6
Henry Walls 18 - boarder
Ebenezer Foreman 22 - boarder
Benjamin J. Vine 21 - boarder
Charles Luxford 29 - boarder
Albert E. Rolfe 18 - boarder

As Constance was born too late to appear on the 1911 census, you'll need her birth or marriage cert to be sure of her parents.

However, there is this Holder family in Horsham in 1911, which may perhaps be hers:


1911 England Census about Mary Holder
Name: Mary Holder
Age in 1911: 43
Estimated birth year: abt 1868
Relation to Head: Wife
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Chichester, Sussex
Civil Parish: Horsham
County/Island: Sussex
Country: England
Street address: 40 East Street Horsham
Marital Status: Married
Years Married: 13
Estimated Marriage Year: 1898
Occupation: Assistant in Business
Registration district: Horsham
Registration District Number: 81
Sub-registration district: North Horsham
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Household schedule number: 145
Piece: 5249
Household Members:
Name Age
Charles Holder 33
Mary Holder 43
Charles Holder 10 - son
Cecil Goff 3 - nephew
George Laker 64 - boarder

Also two other Holders, who could be possible for her mother:


1911 England Census about Alice Grace Holder
Name: Alice Grace Holder
[Alice Grace Hersey]
Age in 1911: 27
Estimated birth year: abt 1884
Relation to Head: Daughter
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Hatfield Broad Oak, Essex
Civil Parish: Horsham
County/Island: Sussex
Country: England
Street address: 96 Station Road Horsham Sussex
Marital Status: Married
Registration district: Horsham
Registration District Number: 81
Sub-registration district: North Horsham
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Household schedule number: 36
Piece: 5256
Household Members:
Name Age
George Hersey 59
Elizabeth Hersey 60
Alice Grace Holder 27 - married daughter (She had a son in 1912, per FreeBMD)


And:


1911 England Census about Annie Holder
Name: Annie Holder
Age in 1911: 20
Estimated birth year: abt 1891
Relation to Head: Servant
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Cranley, Sussex
Civil Parish: Horsham
County/Island: Sussex
Country: England
Street address: Christ Hospital School West Horsham Sussex
Marital Status: Single
Occupation: House Maid Domestic
Registration district: Horsham
Registration District Number: 81
Sub-registration district: North Horsham
ED, institution, or vessel: 28
Piece: 5274

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Thank you everyone who gave me the info above it has been very interesting .. I am brand new at this so I just feeling my way and it has been really helpful to have such kindness shown to me ... I am looking forward to finding all about my family ty all so very very much xxx