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Hi i would be very grateful for any information on Ruler family, my great grandmother was Harriet Moss Ruler born 1855c in Rotherhithe and she was married to John Allen from Maidstone. Thanks
Sandra

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It says Elizabeth is Married and at home and a Farrier??


1861 England Census about Harriet Rider
Name: Harriet Rider
[Harriet Ruler]
[Harriet Ruler]
Age: 5
Estimated Birth Year: 1856
Relation: Daughter
Mother's name: Elizabeth Rider
Gender: Female
Where born: Rotherhithe, Surrey, England
Civil Parish: Bermondsey
Ecclesiastical parish: St Pancras
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Registration district: Bermondsey
Sub-registration district: St James
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 215
Piece: 320
Folio: 22
Page Number: 37
Household Members:
Name Age
Elizabeth Rider 35
Elizabeth Rider 17
Sarah A Rider 16
Robert J Rider 14
Mary A Rider 13
Isabella Rider 10
Phillis Rider 7
Harriet Rider 5
John Rider 3
Sarah Palmer 45
Sarah Palmer 8
John Palmer 22
James Palmer 17
Thomas Palmer 5

This is the 1851 census


1851 England Census about Elizabeth Bt Rider
Name: Elizabeth Bt Rider
[Elizabeth Bt Ruler]
Age: 28
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1823
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Robert Jno Rider
Gender: Female
Where born: Rotherhithe, Surrey, England
Civil Parish: Bermondsey
Ecclesiastical parish: St James
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County/Island: Surrey
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability:

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Registration district: Bermondsey
Sub-registration district: St James
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 9
Piece: 1560
Folio: 202
Page Number: 3
Household Members:
Name Age
Robert Jno Rider 28
Elizabeth Bt Rider 28
Elizabeth Rider 8
Sarah Ann Rider 7
Robert Jno Rider 5
Mary Ann Rider 3
Isabella Harriett Rider 5 Mo

London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 about Harriet Moss Ruler
Name: Harriet Moss Ruler
Spouse: John Allen
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 25 Dec 1876
Parish: Christ Church, Bermondsey
Borough: Southwark
Father Name: Robert John Ruler
Spouse Father: William Allen
Register Type: Parish Register

Address:- 42 Alex Street

..............so father was Robert John Ruler (occupation:- Engineer)

Possible for father:-

London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906 about Robert John Ruler
Name: Robert John Ruler
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 12 Jan 1823
Father's Name: Thomas Nicholson Ruler
Mother's name: Sarah Ruler
Parish or Poor Law Union: Bermondsey St Mary Magdalene
Borough: Southwark
Register Type: Parish Registers

London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 about Robt Jno Ruler
Name: Robt Jno Ruler
Occupation:- Engineer
Spouse: Elizth Barnett Moss
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 13 Jun 1842
Parish: St Paul, Deptford
Borough: Lewisham
Father Name: Thos Nicholson Ruler
Occupation:- Engineer
Spouse Father: Jno Wm Moss
Occupation:- Shoemaker
Register Type: Parish Register

Possible death?

England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index, 1837-1915 about Robert John Ruler
Name: Robert John Ruler
Registration Year: 1859
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration district: Newington
Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District
Inferred County: London
Volume: 1d
Page: 138

and burial:-

London, England, Deaths and Burials, 1813-1980 about Robert John Ruler
Name: Robert John Ruler
Record Type: Burial
Age: 37
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1822
Death Date: abt 1859
Burial Date: 23 Sep 1859
Burial Place: Nunhead Cemetery, Linden Grove, England
Parish or Poor Law Union: Nunhead Cemetery, Linden Grove
Borough: Southwark
Register Type: Bishop's Transcript

Robert is an engineer and machinist.

London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 about Harriet Moss Ruler
Name: Harriet Moss Ruler
Spouse: John Allen
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 25 Dec 1876
Parish: Christ Church, Bermondsey
Borough: Southwark
Father Name: Robert John Ruler
Spouse Father: William Allen
Register Type: Parish Register

1841 England Census about Thomas Resler
Name: Thomas Resler
[Thomas Ruler]
[Thomas Ruler]
Age: 45
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1796
Gender: Male
Civil Parish: St Mary Newington
Hundred: Brixton (Eastern Division)
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England
Street address:
Occupation: Machinist
Registration district: St Mary Newington
Sub-registration district: Trinity
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1065
Book: 8
Folio: 9
Page Number: 11
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Resler 45
Sarah Resler 41
Thomas Resler 21 - engineer
xxxx Robert Resler 15 xxxx
Sarah Resler 7
John Resler 3
William Resler 1
Isabella Resler 15
Joseph Resler 6
Elizabeth Resler 4


1851 England Census about Thomas Buler
Name: Thomas Buler
[Thomas Ruler]
Age: 54
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1797
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Sarah Buler
Gender: Male
Where born: Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish: Newington
Ecclesiastical parish: Trinity
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County/Island: Surrey
Country: England
Street address:
Occupation: Engineer
Registration district: Newington
Sub-registration district: Trinity
ED, institution, or vessel: 14
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 59
Piece: 1566
Folio: 389
Page Number: 17
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Buler 54
Sarah Buler 57
Sarah Buler 17
Elizabeth Buler 14
John Buler 13
William Buler 10
Frances Buler 4

Harriet's mother's birth and Christening.


Elizabeth Burnett Moss
Birth 15 Nov 1820 in of Rotherhithe, London, England

Christening Information
Date
09 Nov 1823
Location
St. Mary, Rotherhithe, London, England

????

Marriages Mar 1841 (>99%)
xxxxx BUTLER Mary Ann Lambeth 4 216
FISHER Fanny Lambeth 4 216
HARVEY Maria Lambeth 4 216
Knight Charles Lambeth 4 216
PEACOCK William Lambeth 4 216
Randall William Lambeth 4 216
xxxxx Ruler Thomas Nicholson Lambeth 4 216
WALKER Elizabeth Lambeth 4 216

EDIT:-
Think this marriage relates to Thomas Nicholson Jnr

Ruler
Name: Thomas Nicholson Ruler
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 12 Jan 1823
Father's Name: Thomas Nicholson Ruler
Occupation:- Engineer
Mother's name: Sarah Ruler
Parish or Poor Law Union: Bermondsey St Mary Magdalene
Borough: Southwark
Register Type: Parish Registers

he was baptised the same day as Robert John Ruler

Well spotted Catherine.

They never get their name right do they?

Administrations), 1858-1966 about Thomas Nicholson Ruler
Name: Thomas Nicholson Ruler
Probate Date: 7 Aug 1863
Death Date: 22 Jul 1863
Death Place: Surrey, England

Probate is to Sarah (widow)

Baptism for father?

England & Wales Christening Records, 1530-1906 about Thomas Nicholson Ruler
Name: Thomas Nicholson Ruler
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 6 Aug 1794
Christening Date: 15 Aug 1794
Christening Place: York, Yorkshire, England
Age at Christening: 0
Father's Name: John Ruler
Mother's name: Sarah

and his marriage:-

London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 about Thomas Nicholson Ruler
Name: Thomas Nicholson Ruler
Spouse: Sarah Mitchell
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 9 Jun 1816
Parish: St Margaret, Westminster
Borough: Westminster
Register Type: Bishop's Transcript


EDIT:- Sorry Mel just spotted your posting. Yes you always have to have an open mind and look outside the box when searching for missing persons,

Pc playing up and oh wanted something.

I have just found that marriage of Thomas Nicholas Ruler to Sarah Mitchell.

Better late than never.

http://www.genesreunited.co.za/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1344509

(above also relating)

Chris :)

Thomas Nicholson Ruler
Birth 06 Aug 1794 in St. Crux York, Yorkshire, England

Thanks very much for all your help, have added to my tree
Sandra