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How do I go about tracing my Grandmothers siblings and their possible children ?
I recently found my grandmother in Australia ! And wanted to find out if she had siblings who then may have children
Thanks :-)

Also how do I find out where my grandmother was born and then lived as we feel there is a link with Wales ?
Thanks :-)

If you tell us your grandmother's name and year of birth and any other relevant information including how you found her in Australia, we may be able to help.

Thanks her maiden name was Eleanor Long born in 1921, I have another thread on here from when I was searching for her originally and through support of this website and my research I found her !!!! But it is early days

These are related threads

http://mygenesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1344869

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1345433

Thanks yes these are the links

This looks like the right mob:

Using http://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl
Births Mar 1921 (>99%)
Long Eleanor Currie Chorlton 8c 1557

Births Jun 1928 (>99%)
Long Joan Currie Manchester S. 8d 299

Marriages Jun 1920 (>99%)
Currie Georgina Long Chorlton 8c 2809
Long George F Currie Chorlton 8c 2809


Using http://www.lancashirebmd.org.uk/
Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1920
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
LONG George F CURRIE Georgina Moss Side, Baptist Church, Moss Lane East Manchester 259/6/9


A search at
http://search.ancestry.co.uk/search/db.aspx?dbid=9095
gets
Name Birth Year Marriage Date Marriage Place Relatives View Images
George Francis Long year date city, Manchester, England John,Georgina
As you can see, I don't have a sub
*** IF ANYONE HAS AN ANCESTRY SUB, COULD THEY PLEASE PROVIDE THE DETAILS ***

how did you know I would be along some time this evening, mgnv?? :-)




Manchester, England, Non-Conformist Marriages, 1758-1937 about George Francis Long

Name: George Francis Long
Gender: Male
Birth Year: abt 1892
Marriage Age: 28
Marriage Date: 3 Apr 1920
Marriage Place: Moss Side, Manchester, England
Church: Moss Lane East Church
Father Name: John Long
Spouse Name: Georgina Currie
Spouse Marriage Age: 24
Spouse Father Name: Joseph Alexander Currie

from image:-

George Francis

Bachelor
Occupation:- Clerk, Cotton Waste
Address:- 22 George Street, Moss Side
Father occupation:- Blacksmith (deceased)


Georgina

Spinster
Age:- 24
no occupation shown
Address:- 26 Darncombe (???spelling) Street, Moss Side
Father occupation:- Engraver


Witnesses:- H M A Barber, Frank ??? Major??, and Joseph A Currie

and in the presence of T J Whitman, Minister, Authorised Person for the said Church



Church was Moss Side Baptist Church, Chorlton

This looks like George Francis in 1911


1911 Census

es.
1911 England Census about George Francis Long
Name: George Francis Long
Age in 1911: 19
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1892
Relation to Head: Son
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Hulme, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: South Manchester
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address: 162 York Street
Marital Status: Single
Occupation: Commercial Clerk
Registration district: Chorlton
Registration District Number: 464
Sub-registration district: Hulme
ED, institution, or vessel: 34
Piece: 23899

John Long 58 b.ca 1853, Salford, Lancashire, Shopkeeper (Confectionery)
Isabella Long 52 b.ca 1859, Derrygonnely, Ireland, Assisting in Business
George Francis Long 19 Commercial Clerk in Cotton Waste Warehouse
Nellie Long 17 b.ca 1894, Hulme, Lancashire, Machinist (Blouses)


John and Isabella had been married 25 years, 3 children born, 1 died, 2 still living



John was a Blacksmith on the 1901 Census




FYI ................... I do not think this is YOUR G F Long .............. he gives a home address in Dartmouth, Devon when he enlisted, and an employer's address in Dartmouth. Just does not fit!


British Army WWI Service Records, 1914-1920 about George Francis Long

Name: George Francis Long
Gender: Male
Birth Date: abt 1894
Birth Place: Dartmouth, Devon, England
Age at Enlistment: 18
Document Year: 1912
Regimental Number: 784
Regiment Name: Devon ??
Number of Images: 10
Form Title: Territorial Force Attestation

I think this is Georgina in 1901



1901 Census

Name: Georgina Currie
Age: 5
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1896
Relation to Head: Granddaughter
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Salford, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Moss Side
Ecclesiastical parish: Whalley Range St Edmund
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Registration district: Chorlton
Sub-registration district: Hulme
ED, institution, or vessel: 68

Piece: 3709
Folio: 111
Page Number: 5
Household schedule number: 23

Alexander Currie 67 b.ca 1834, Scotland, Bootmaker
Elizabeth Currie 60 b.ca 1841, Salford, Lancashire
Annie Elizth Currie 13 b.ca 1888, Manchester, Lancashire, Granddaughter
Lilian Currie 11 b.ca 1890, Hyde, Cheshire, Granddaughter
Georgina Currie 5
Georgina Findlater 42 Boarder
Mary Elizth Lawton 24 Boarder

Address:- 26 Damcoule (???spelling) Street



and in 1911

1911 Census

Name: Georgina Currie
Age in 1911: 15
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1896
Relation to Head: Granddaughter
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Broughton, Lancashire
Civil Parish: South Manchester
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address: 26 Darncombe Street
Occupation: Machinist
Registration district: Chorlton
Registration District Number: 464
Sub-registration district: Hulme
ED, institution, or vessel: 49
Piece: 23914

Alexander Currie 77 b.ca 1834, Aberdeen, Widower, Bootmaker
Jennie Elizabeth Currie 48 b.ca 1863, Hulme, Lancashire, Daughter-in-law
Annie Elizabeth Currie 23
Lilian Currie 21
Georgina Currie 15 Machinist (Household Linen)
Georgina Findlater 53 Boarder



and finally, we get the father Joseph A Currie

1891 Census

Name: Joseph A Currie
Age: 28
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1863
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Jeannie A Currie
Gender: Male
Where born: Manchester, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Broughton
Ecclesiastical parish: St Clement
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Registration district: Salford
Sub registration district: Broughton [Near Salford]
ED, institution, or vessel: 15

Piece: 3212
Folio: 119
Page Number: 44

Joseph A Currie 28 Engraver to Calico Printer
Jeannie A Currie 29 b.ca 1862, Manchester, Lancashire
Annie E Currie 3 b.ca 1888, Manchester
Lillian Currie 1 b.ca 1890, Hyde, Cheshire
Georgina Findlater 32 b.ca 1859, Manchester, Sister-in-Law, Lodger

Address:- 31 Alexander Street




from lancs bmd


Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1885

CURRIE Joseph A FINDLATER Jennie E Chorlton-on-Medlock Register Office or Registrar Attended Archives+, Manchester Central Library CHO_RM/70/83




England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index, 1837-1915 about Jennie Elizabeth Findlater

Name: Jennie Elizabeth Findlater
Registration Year: 1885
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration district: Chorlton
Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume: 8c
Page: 1082
Records on Page:
Name
Joseph Alexander Currie
Jennie Elizabeth Findlater

Joseph was staying elsewhere in 1901


1901 Census

Name: Joseph A Currie
Age: 37
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1864
Relation to Head: Visitor
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Manchester, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: South Manchester
Ecclesiastical parish: Ardwick St Silas
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Registration district: Chorlton
Sub-registration district: Ardwick
ED, institution, or vessel: 022

Piece: 3677
Folio: 12
Page Number: 15
Household schedule number: 91

Frederick Livesey 42
Hannah Livesey 33
Alexander Livesey 11
William Livesey 9
Mary E Livesey 6
Frederick Livesey 2
Dorothy Livesey 4/12
Joseph A Currie 37 Calico Printer's Engraver

Address:- 18 Cross Street




????????????


England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2007 about Joseph A Currie

Name: Joseph A Currie
Birth Date: abt 1862
Date of Registration: Sep 1937
Age at Death: 75
Registration district: South Manchester
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume: 8d
Page: 197

Hi Sylvia - FYI Ancestry has the (untranscribed) Oldham Cemetery Registers online, see:
http://search.ancestry.co.uk/search/db.aspx?dbid=9935

As to why you'ld be along - maybe the same as me - all that's on TV is reruns until the election results come in at 10pm.
There's a soccer game - but I know Austria wins 1-0 over Russia. Maybe I'll watch a couple of shows I missed on https://www.knowledge.ca/


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michelle - in one of your numerous other threads it was explained how to find full siblings (provided they're born in England or Wales).
You have the GRO index entry for your gran's birth:
Surname First name(s) Mother District Vol Page
Births Mar 1921 (>99%)
Long Eleanor Currie Chorlton 8c 1557

Now a full sib will normally have the same father's surname and mother's maiden surname listed, so you just look that combination up.
In this case, there appear to be 2 families, one in Chorlton area, and the other in the Canterbury area presumably offspring of this marr:

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Marriages Mar 1909 (>99%)
BILLYEALD Arthur Edgar Canterbury 2a 1294
COUTABLE Madeleine Marie Canterbury 2a 1294
CURRIE Minnie Canterbury 2a 1294
LONG Herbert Leonard Canterbury 2a 1294

hi mgnv ................

I've used those Oldham Cemetery Registers on familysearch ........... I did not know they were on ancestry. Thank you!


Just finished watching the results for here :-)

It's going to be an interesting 4 years :-D

1881 England Census
Civil Parish: Moss Side
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address: 26 Darncombe St
Registration district: Chorlton
Sub registration district: Hulme
ED, institution, or vessel: 76
Piece: 3939 Folio: 5 Page Number: 4

Alexander Currie 48 Scotland Head M Bootmaker
Elizabeth Currie 40 Salford, Lancashire, England Wife M
Joseph A. Currie 17 Manchester, Lancashire, England Son Machine Engraver (C P)
Elizabeth Hewitt 40 Flintshire, Wales Boarder Cook (Dom)
J.W. Lees 23 Manchester, Lancashire, England Boarder Coal Merchant
Frederic Livesey 22 Manchester, Lancashire, England Boarder Railway Labourer

1871 https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VBJW-C1F

1861 Census
Piece: RG9/2941 Place: Deansgate -Lancashire Enumeration District: 19
Civil Parish: Manchester Ecclesiastical Parish: St John
Folio: 52 Page: 4 Schedule: 15
Address: 6 Jerusalem Place
Surname First name(s) Rel Status Sex Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
LIVESEY Joseph Head M M 48 Warehouseman Lancashire - Manchester
LIVESEY Frances Wife M F 48 Lancashire - Manchester
LIVESEY Joseph Son U M 18 Gilder Lancashire - Manchester
LIVESEY Elizabeth Dau U F 20 Servant Lancashire - Manchester
LIVESEY Mary Dau U F 9 Scholar Lancashire - Manchester
LIVESEY William Son U M 7 Scholar Lancashire - Manchester
LIVESEY Frederick Son U M 2 Lancashire - Manchester

Possibly:
Marriage: 1 Dec 1836 Collegiate, Manchester, Lancashire, England
Joseph Livesey - Warehouseman, Bachelor, this Parish
Frances Leigh - Spinster, this Parish
Witness: Richard Norbury; Elizabeth Springthorp
Married by Banns by: W. W. Johnson Dep. Chap.
Register: Marriages 1836 from the Bishop's Transcripts, Page 1002, Entry 3006
Source: LDS Film 1545611

Maybe someone could check out this 1861 hit (especially his occup) at:
http://search.ancestry.co.uk/search/db.aspx?dbid=1080

Name Parent or spouse names Estimated Birth Year Birthplace Relation Civil Parish County
Alexander Currie Ann abt 1834 location relation city


It might match:
1841 Census
Piece: SCT1841/168 Place: Old Machar -Aberdeenshire Enumeration District: 20
Civil Parish: Gilcomston Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: -
Folio: 8 Page: 16
Address: Summer Street
Surname First name(s) Sex Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
CURRIE Ann F 39 Independent Aberdeenshire
CURRIE Alexander M 8 Aberdeenshire
CURRIE Ann F 10 Aberdeenshire
CURRIE Isabel F 6 Aberdeenshire
CURRIE Margaret F 2 Aberdeenshire

Why have you started yet ANOTHER thread?

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1344521

You know that it causes irritation, and a lot of wasted effort

You were given the sister's birth info in September, and did nothing about following it up

Here's an alternative to my last Alex:

1851 Census
Piece: SCT1851/164 Place: Rathven -Banffshire Enumeration District: 1
Civil Parish: Rathven Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: -
Folio: 123 Page: 1 Schedule: 6
Address: Free Church Street

Surname First name(s) Rel Status Sex Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
MCKENZIE George Head M M 23 Shoemaker Emp 1 Man Banffshire - Deskford
MCKENZIE Janet Wife M F 27 Banffshire - Portsoy
MCKENZIE Elizabeth Dau - F 3 Banffshire - Deskford
MCKENZIE George Son - M 1 Banffshire - Buckie
Page: 123/2 CURRIE Alexander Servnt U M 17 Shoemaker Jrnymn Banffshire - Rathven

1841 Census
Piece: SCT1841/164 Place: Rathven -Banffshire Enumeration District: 3
Civil Parish: Rathven Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: -
Folio: 9 Page: 5
Address: Burnside Of Badenhanan
Surname First name(s) Sex Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
CURRIE Alexr M 35 Farmer Banffshire
CURRIE Elizabeth F 45 Outside Census County (1841)
CURRIE Elizabeth F 10 Banffshire
CURRIE Alexr M 8 Banffshire
CURRIE Margret F 5 Banffshire
CURRIE John M 3 Banffshire
Page: 9/6 CURRIE Janet F 5m Banffshire
[Now spelled as Badenhannen (must be near OS 347300,862050 abt 5km SE of Rathven)]


1851 Census
Piece: SCT1851/164 Place: Rathven -Banffshire Enumeration District: 15
Civil Parish: Rathven Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: Rathven
Folio: 123 Page: 7 Schedule: 29
Address: Burnside
Surname First name(s) Rel Status Sex Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
CURRIE Alexander Head M M 49 Crofter Banffshire - Rathven
CURRIE Elisabeth Wife M F 54 Morayshire - Dallas
CURRIE George Son U M 25 Slater Banffshire - Rathven
CURRIE Robert Son U M 23 Slater Banffshire - Cullen
CURRIE Elisabeth Daur U F 20 House Servant Banffshire - Cullen
CURRIE Margaret Daur U F 15 Scholar Banffshire - Rathven
Page: 123/8 CURRIE Janet Daur U F 14 Scholar Banffshire - Rathven
CURRIE John Son - M 13 Scholar Banffshire - Rathven
DAY Margaret Ma-Law W F 83 Formerly Crofters Wife Banffshire - Boharm
CLARK Ellen Grndau - F 7m Banffshire - Rathven


1861 Census
Piece: SCT1861/164 Place: Rathven -Banffshire Enumeration District: 2
Civil Parish: Rathven Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: -
Folio: 0 Page: 5 Schedule: 18
Address: Burnside
Surname First name(s) Rel Status Sex Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
CURRIE Alexr Head M M 56 Crofter 15 Ac Banffshire - Rathven
CURRIE Elizabeth Wife M F 61 Crofter's Wife Morayshire - Dallas
CURRIE John Son U M 22 Ag Lab Banffshire - Rathven
CURRIE Margret Dau U F 23 Domestic Servnt Banffshire - Rathven
CURRIE Jessie Dau U F 20 Banffshire - Rathven
CLARKE Helen Grndau U F 10 Scholar Banffshire - Rathven





I don't know whether this duplicates info you've already got - I'm not prepared to wade thru 6 threads to find out, but I'd done the lookups before I found there were all those other threads, so you might as well have it as a parting gift.