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I am searching for a Richard Prynn born 1792/1793 Menheniot, Cornwall on the 1851 and 1841 census records but not having any luck.

Prynn is often spelt------Pryn/Prinn/Prin/Prim


Richard Prin in the 1871 England Census
Name:Richard Prin
Age:78
Estimated birth year:abt 1793
Relation:Lodger
Gender:Male
Where born:Menheniot, Cornwall, England
Civil Parish:Menheniot
County/Island:Cornwall
Country:England
Registration district:Liskeard
Sub-registration district:Liskeard

Household Members:

Name

Age


Matthew Ford 44
Mary Ann Bunt 40
Martha Ford 3
Elizabeth Bunt 12
Richard Prin 78 Labourer


Richard Prin in the 1861 England Census
Name:Richard Prin
Age:69
Estimated birth year:1792
Relation:Lodger
Gender:Male
Where born:Menheniot, Cornwall, England
Civil Parish:Menheniot
County/Island:Cornwall
Country:England
Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:

Registration district:Liskeard
Sub-registration district:Liskeard

Household Members:

Name

Age

Elizabeth Noble 44
Richard Prin 69 Widower Mine Labourer

I have researched the people he was lodging with and there is no family connection to those people.

Try as I might, I cannot find him in 1851 and 1841 and wondered if anyone please might have any luck in finding him.

Thankyou.

Forgot to mention that his wife was Martha. No idea when she died though.

Just for info...................are these the right man?

First name(s) Richard
Last name Prynn
Gender Male
Birth year -
Birth place -
Baptism year 1795
Baptism date 22 Feb 1795
Place Menheniot
County Cornwall
Country England
Father's first name(s) Richard
Father's last name Prynn
Mother's first name(s) Mary



First name(s) Richard
Last name Prynn
Name note -
Marriage year 1814
Marriage date 21 Nov 1814
Marriage place Menheniot, Cornwall, England
Father's first name(s) -
Father's last name -
Mother's first name(s) -
Mother's last name -
Spouse's first name(s) Martha
Spouse's last name Cook
Place Menheniot
County Cornwall

Yes Jacqueline that is my Richard Prynn.

I gave up looking for him some time ago as I couldn't find him on the 1841 and 1851 census. I assumed he must have died before 1841.

Then today, quite by chance, I found a Richard (Prin) on the 1861 and 1871 census.

There is someone on the 1851 census just with initials RP in Bodmin. He is described as a Pauper Patient, married and a labourer. Could that possibly be him?

Kath. x

1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Quethrock Village, Quethiock, St German, Cornwall, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Gender Age Birth year Birth place
William Hawken Male 25 1816 Cornwall, England
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Sarah Hawken Female 25 1816 Cornwall, England
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- - Male 0 1841 Cornwall, England
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William Sanders Male 15 1826 Cornwall, England
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Martha Pryn Female 50 1791 -

1841 Census
5 Records found


Piece: HO107/133/8 Place: East -Cornwall Enumeration District: 9
Civil Parish: Quethiock Ecclesiastical Parish: -
Folio: 12 Page: 18
Address: Quethiock Village

Surname First name(s) Sex Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
HAWKEN William M 25 Carpenter Cornwall
HAWKEN Sarah F 25 Cornwall
HAWKEN Not Known M 3w Cornwall
SANDERS William M 20 Apprentice Cornwall
PRYN Martha F 50 Female Servant Outside Census County (1841)

I will go and check that out thankyou Kathleen.

That 1841 looks interesting Safc. I will take a look at that too.

There is this record in the right place for a Martha Pryn on the 1851 census (but says she is a widow):-

1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Menheniot, Liskeard, Cornwall, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place

Jane Tamlin Head Widow Female 61 1790 Pauper Miller Liskeard, Cornwall, England
Thomas Tamlin Son Unmarried Male 19 1832 Lead Miner Menheniot, Cornwall, England
Martha Pryn Widow Widow Female 67 1784 Pauper Wool Comber Maryport, Cumberland, England<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

Kath. x

Martha on the 1841 census that Safc posted, shows as Martha Prior on Ancestry.

It is Pryn on the image though.

With William Sanders/Saunders age 15.

Hmm, not too sure about that 1851 Kathleen.

So frustrating. He must be somewhere!

Isn't there an earlier thread about this, in the last few days?
It sounds very familiar.

Can't find it, though - Quick Search isn't in any kind of order, and Advanced Search still isn't working for me.

EDIT:
No, sorry, it was David's recent thread about Elizabeth Hooper Prynn which I was thinking of.
Prynn and Menheniot rang bells.

Could be this one ArgyllGran re an Elizabeth Hooper Prinn b 1848 fro David

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1352681

I have never posted about Richard Prynn before.

http://www.cornwall-opc-database.org/search-database/

(always worth a look round on above, 'Person Search', ticking box for similar surnames)

Chris :)

Burial
Day Month 23-Apr
Year 1854
Parish Or Reg District Menheniot
Forename Martha
Surname PRN
Age 65
Residence Liskeard Union Workhouse


Deaths Jun 1854 (>99%)
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Prin Martha Liskeard 5c 43


Day Month 26-May
Year 1822
Parish Or Reg District Menheniot
Forename Richard
Surname PRYNN
Sex Male
Father Forename Richard
Mother Forename Martha
Residence Pool
Father Rank Profession Wool Comber


edits (below from google search, Son)

THE CORNISH MINING INDEX has been instigated. For example, a search for a RICHARD PRIN(N) of Menheniot provides us with quite a revealing image of his life (sources in brackets). RICHARD PRIN(N) son of RICHARD and MARTHA, born circa 1822, married ELIZABETH BARRETT born circa 1825 at Stoke Damerell on 5 April 1846 (Strays Index). On the night of 30th March 1851 Richard, his wife and one year old son HENRY are residing at Menheniot, and Richard's occupation is given as Lead miner (1851 Census). However this was not to be for long, for on 13th November 1857 Richard's hands are shattered in an explosion at Wheal Mary Ann, which ultimately drew to a close his mining career ("The Cornish Times" 22-11-1857). But Richard must have been quite some character, despite having lost both arms, in 1864 he is working as a wagon driver. Unfortunately fate was unkind yet again, for on 7th June 1864 whilst delivering coal with his son Henry in Liskeard he is fatally injured when a chimney of a house being demolished fell on him ("The Cornish Times" 11-6-1864), and was finally laid to rest at Menheniot on 17th June 1864.

http://www.cornwall-online.co.uk/history/cmi/article1.htm


Marriages Jun 1846 (>99%)
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Barrett Elizabeth Stoke Daml 9 547
Prinn Richard Stoke Daml. 9 547

(could help with details of Father)

Image for above on Find My Past, Father Richard, occ. Woolcomber.

Thank you Chris I will take a look at that.

Getting desperate now. :-)

Just seen you update Chris.

That is great information. I have this info on Richard who was born 1822.

Birth: unknown
Death: Jun. 11, 1864
Cornwall, England


Inscription:
Sacred
to
the memory of
Richard Prynn
late of this village
whose death was occasioned by a
portion of a house falling on him
while passing through Liskeard
on the 7th day of June 1864
He died the 11th day of the same
month
Aged 42 years


Burial:
St Lalluwy Churchyard
Menheniot
Cornwall Unitary Authority
Cornwall, England
Plot: churchyard

From----Find A Grave.

Gosh, shattered hands, loses both arms and then a chimney falls on him.

Father Richard died under the surname of Prinn.


Deaths Jun 1874 (>99%)
PRINN Richard 82 Liskeard 5c 43