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Wilson/Craig and Wilson/King

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Jennifer

Jennifer Report 29 Jun 2015 07:57

Isobel CRAIG marries James KING. Her parents, I believe were James CRAIG and Margaret WILSON both born about 1769. There were eleven children from this marriage. It is the parents of Margaret WILSON that I am trying to find to see if there is a connection to the parents of James KING.
His parents, I believe to be John KING 1774-1826 and Agnes WILSON 1782-1856. Johns parents were Thomas King and Janet Kerr. It is the parents of Agnes that I am also looking for. All of these people were from the Midlothian area of Scotland.
I have found myself getting confused......not hard to do!!!! So I hope someone can help with this.
Many thanks :)

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 29 Jun 2015 09:18

With such a common name like Wilson I would think it difficult to prove you had the correct people without corroborating evidence.

Have you checked the availability of parish records for the area in the timescale you are researching please?

If Agnes Wilson died in 1856, does her death registration not name her parents?

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 29 Jun 2015 10:21

Unfortunately the OPR's - for Scotland, at least - for banns / marriages, usually don't mention the couple's parents at all.

Re Agnes Wilson's death, ScotlandsPeople doesn't show any death for an Agnes Wilson (born 1782 +/- 2 yrs) in Midlothian in 1856. Where did you get your dates from?

This is the only one 1855-57:

1857 WILSON AGNES
mms LINTON
other surname BROTHERSTONE
F 76 HOLYROOD AND CANONGATE EDINBURGH CITY/MIDLOTHIAN 685/05 0137

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 29 Jun 2015 10:25

When did Isobel and James marry?


Is this their marriage? - the only one SP shows for people of those names in Midlothian 1790-1854. Have you looked at the image to see if it mentions their parents - I'm assuming you have, and that it doesn't?:

01/11/1812 WILSON JAMES ISABEL CRAIG/FR2525 (FR2525) M TEMPLE /MIDLOTHIAN 700/00 0030 0284


EDIT: - Sorry, pay no attention to above - should have ben looking for Craig/King, not Craig/Wilson!

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 29 Jun 2015 10:53

If this is the marriage of James and Margaret, perhaps Margaret's birth is earlier than you though The?

James Craig
Gender: Male
Marriage Date: 31 Dec 1783
Marriage Place: Dalkeith,Midlothian,Scotland
Spouse: Margaret Wilson
FHL Film Number: 1066681

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 29 Jun 2015 11:03

Did you get The names of Isobel's parents from her death registration please?

Jennifer

Jennifer Report 29 Jun 2015 11:38

James and Isobel married 16 August 1827 in Midlothian, Scotland. My information comes from a relative who stared researching quite a few years ago but gave up. I am unsure where the information came from originally. Their daughter Janet Wilson Craig married Peter Galloway and this is the connection (Galloway).

That marriage for James and Margaret could be the right.

The death for Agnes won't be Wilson.......it will be Agnes King......she was married to John King.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 29 Jun 2015 11:55

Oh, yes, silly me!

However, there are no deaths on SP for an Agnes King, anywhere in Scotland, born 1782 +/- 2 yrs, died 1855-57

This will be Isabel & James's marriage:

16/08/1827 CRAIG ISABEL JAMES KING/FR1509 (FR1509) F NEWTON /MIDLOTHIAN 696/00 0060 0032

(I was looking for the wrong names before - think it's time I had some lunch!)


If you buy credits on ScotlandsPeople you can view/print the image of the original document. It probably won't show parents' names, but you might be lucky.

Jennifer

Jennifer Report 29 Jun 2015 12:13

The thing is amongst the notes I have is the fact that both Agnes Wilson and Margaret Wilson are listed as having the same parents......Andrew Wilson who married a Marion Jack.
That of course would mean that 1st cousins married ie. Margaret's Daughter, Isobel Craig married the son of Agnes, James King.

Hope this making some sense.

Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 29 Jun 2015 14:14

Jennifer..Do you have any idea where in Midlothian the family came from..we are looking at some 38 Towns/Parishes for the broad time frame in question..???


Edit...Just noted ArgyllGran's posting for Isobel Craig's marriage being Newton..... will focus on that area as Agnes Wilson King's children were born there....(Andrew and Marion)....

Have not found a marriage to John King so far





Andrew King

Scotland, Births and Baptisms

Name: Andrew King
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 03 Mar 1811
Christening Place: , NEWTON, MIDLOTHIAN, SCOTLAND
Birth Date: 14 Jan 1811
Father's Name: John King
Mother's Name: Agnes Wilson

Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C11696-5 , System Origin: Scotland-VR , GS Film number: 1067787 , Reference ID: - 2:1868FK2

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 29 Jun 2015 18:05

????
Marriage:

15/02/1799 KING JOHN AGNES WILSON/FR1041 (FR1041) M NEWTON /MIDLOTHIAN 696/00 0040 0264

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 29 Jun 2015 18:10

Two possible Agnes Wilson births, but the second one would only have been 14 at marriage, so presumably the first one is the right one, as Jennifer believes:

28/03/1782 WILSON AGNES ANDREW WILSON/MARION JACK FR602 (FR602) F NEWTON /MIDLOTHIAN 696/00 0020 0213

20/11/1785 WILSON AGNES ROBERT WILSON/MARGARET INCLEWOOD FR625 (FR625) F NEWTON /MIDLOTHIAN 696/00 0020 0236

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 29 Jun 2015 18:13

Marriage of Andrew & Marion:

11/06/1761 WILSON ANDREW MARION JACK/FR1067 (FR1067) M NEWTON /MIDLOTHIAN 696/00 0040 0288

Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 29 Jun 2015 18:20

This Birth would correspond with the Marriage date of Agnes and John as per

ArgyllGran's posting... presumably their first child...





Marion King

Scotland, Births and Baptisms

Name: Marion King
Gender: Female
Christening Date: 02 Jan 1800
Christening Place: , NEWTON, MIDLOTHIAN, SCOTLAND
Birth Date: 20 Dec 1799
Father's Name: John King
Mother's Name: Agnes Wilson

Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C11696-5 , System Origin: Scotland-VR , GS Film number: 1067787 , Reference ID: - 2:1868289

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 29 Jun 2015 18:24

I don't see a birth for a Margaret Wilson with parents Andrew and Marion, anywhere in Midlothian.

If Margaret was born in Newton, this is the only possible birth shown on SP, 1750-67:

29/04/1763 WILSON MARGARET ALEXANDER WILSON/ELSPETH MOFFAT FR543 (FR543) F NEWTON /MIDLOTHIAN 696/00 0020 0155

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 29 Jun 2015 18:29

All Andrew & Marion's children, per SP:

28/03/1782 WILSON AGNES
ANDREW WILSON/MARION JACK FR602 (FR602) F NEWTON /MIDLOTHIAN 696/00 0020 0213

03/08/1764 WILSON ANDREW
ANDREW WILSON/MARION JACK FR547 (FR547) M NEWTON /MIDLOTHIAN 696/00 0020 0159

26/09/1762 WILSON ELIZABETH
ANDREW WILSON/MARION JACK FR541 (FR541) F NEWTON /MIDLOTHIAN 696/00 0020 0153

18/05/1770 WILSON HELEN
ANDREW WILSON/MARION JACK FR565 (FR565) F NEWTON /MIDLOTHIAN 696/00 0020 0176

12/12/1784 WILSON HELEN
ANDREW WILSON/MARION JACK FR619 (FR619) F NEWTON /MIDLOTHIAN 696/00 0020 0230

14/02/1773 WILSON MARION
ANDREW WILSON/MARION JACK FR572 (FR572) F NEWTON /MIDLOTHIAN 696/00 0020 0183

24/06/1768 WILSON WILLIAM
ANDREW WILSON/MARION JACK FR560 (FR560) M NEWTON /MIDLOTHIAN 696/00 0020 0171

Jennifer

Jennifer Report 30 Jun 2015 00:17

Looks like we are on the right track for Andrew and Marion. Their daughter Agnes marries John KING.......now to find their children, one of whom should be a James King born about 1802. We have a Marion born 1799 and Andrew born 1811.
James goes on to marry Isobel Craig.

Now to Isobel Craig, born about 1798 and whose parents are James Craig and Margaret Wilson. They married 31 Dec 1783 in Dalkeith, I would like to find the parents now of Margaret Wilson.

Once I can determine these facts I will be very happy. ??



Jennifer

Jennifer Report 30 Jun 2015 05:36

Ok.....I have found some more information about Agnes and John King that Confirms what you all have found on another tree on Genes. However on this tree there is nothing for Isobel's parents, Margaret nee Wilson and James Craig. I'm hoping the great researchers on here can help me with sorting out Margaret??

Many many thanks for all the help so far. It is enabling me to correct some mistakes that had been made in the past.
Jennifer :-)