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Thomas Brown

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Kathryn

Kathryn Report 16 Nov 2015 09:15

Hello everyone,

I am trying to find information on my ancestor Thomas Brown. His parents were George & Esther Brown and he was one of 9 children. He was born abt 1868 in Sussex. He died a bachelor according to old family records. Two of his sisters died spinsters from the same address of 1 Bungalow Broad Oak, Heathfield. I am hoping to be able to learn more about him. Thanks in advance for any help provided

Thanks :-)

greyghost

greyghost Report 16 Nov 2015 09:48

Just to confirm this is the family concerned.

What information do you want to know, you seem to know a fair deal.

The free to use website http://www.freebmd.org.uk should show you the births and possible marriages of the siblings in conjunction with census returns to confirm

1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Poundford Cottages, Mayfield, Uckfield, Sussex, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
George Brown Head - Male 32 1839 -Sussex, England
Esther Brown Wife - Female 34 1837 - Kent, England
George Brown Son - Male 7 1864 - Sussex, England
Emily Brown Daughter - Female 5 1866 - Sussex, England
Edward Brown Son - Male 3 1868 - Sussex, England
Thomas Brown Son - Male 1 1870 - Sussex, England

George b Buxted, an Agricultural Labourer. Esther b Bethersden, children all b Mayfield

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 16 Nov 2015 10:12

Thomas Brown

in the 1911 England Census
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Name: Thomas Brown
Age in 1911: 41
Estimated birth year: abt 1870
Relation to Head: Son
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Mayfield, Sussex
Civil Parish: Heathfield
Search Photos: Search for 'Heathfield' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection
County/Island: Sussex
Country: England
Street address: Blackdown Cottage Heathfield
Marital Status: Single
Occupation: Farm Labourer
Registration district: Hailsham
Registration District Number: 72
Sub-registration district: Herstmonceux
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Household schedule number: 79
Piece: 4870
Household Members:
Name Age
George Brown 71
Thomas Brown 41
Jane Brown 29

greyghost

greyghost Report 16 Nov 2015 10:14

1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
1, Barracks, Heathfield, Hailsham, Sussex, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
George Brown Head Married Male 39 1842 Ag Lab Buxted, Sussex, England
Esther Brown Wife Married Female 40 1841 - Ashford, Kent, England
Benjamin Brown Son Single Male 15 1866 - Mayfield, Sussex, England
Thomas Brown Son Single Male 13 1868 Scholar Mayfield, Sussex, England
Esther Brown Daughter Single Female 8 1873 Scholar Mayfield, Sussex, England
Alfred Brown Son Single Male 5 1876 Scholar Heathfield, Sussex, England
Elizabeth Brown Daughter Single Female 3 1878 - Heathfield, Sussex, England
Jesse Brown Son Single Male 1 1880 - Heathfield, Sussex, England

greyghost

greyghost Report 16 Nov 2015 10:24

Just to complete the line up of siblings and also shows paternal grandmother

1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Mugreed Cottage, Streetend Lane, Heathfield, Hailsham, Sussex, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
George Brown Head Married Male 40 1851 Carpenter -
Esther Brown Wife Married Female 43 1848 - -
Elizabeth Brown Daughter Single Female 13 1878 - Heathfield, Sussex, England
Jesse Brown Son Single Male 11 1880 Scholar Heathfield, Sussex, England
Jane Brown Daughter Single Female 9 1882 Scholar Heathfield, Sussex, England
Mary Brown Mother Widow Female 79 1812 - -

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Thomas Esther and Alfred all working as servants on a local farm

1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Scottfords Farm, Streetend Lane, Heathfield, Hailsham, Sussex, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Samuel Hobden Head Married Male 68 1823 Farmer Heathfield, Sussex, England
Francis Hobden Wife Married Female 52 1839 - Mayfield, Sussex, England
Esther Brown Servant Single Female 18 1873 General Domestic Mayfield, Sussex, England
Thomas Brown Servant Single Male 20 1871 Carter Mayfield, Sussex, England
Alfred Brown Servant Single Male 16 1875 Milk Man Heathfield, Sussex, England

greyghost

greyghost Report 16 Nov 2015 11:00

These look to be the probable births of the siblings

Births Sep 1863 (>99%)
BROWN George Robert Uckfield 2b 85

Births Sep 1865 (>99%)
BROWN Emily Mary Uckfield 2b 93

Births Sep 1867 (>99%)
Brown Edward Benjamin Uckfield 2b 106

NOT finding Thomas birth Reg. Should be Uckfield RD. It's not the Thomas Geoerge A b Dec 1867 - he is on the 1881 census elsewhere with different parents. The 1871/1911 census has him born 1870 (rather than the 1881 which shows 1868) so maybe he's this one un named -

Births Sep 1869 (>99%)
Brown Male Uckfield 2b 98

Births Dec 1872 (>99%)
BROWN Esther Matilda Uckfield 2b 104

Births Sep 1875 (>99%)
BROWN Alfred John Hailsham 2b 78

Births Sep 1877 (>99%)
Brown Elizabeth Charlotte Hailsham 2b 83

Births Jun 1879 (>99%)
Brown Jesse Hailsham 2b 96

Births Dec 1881 (>99%)
BROWN Jane Harriett Hailsham 2b 99

greyghost

greyghost Report 16 Nov 2015 11:13

Possible this death if he stayed in the area. Born Sep Qtr 1869 would make him 66 in Q1 1936

England & Wales deaths 1837-2007 Transcription

First name(s) THOMAS
Last name BROWN
Gender Male
Birth day -
Birth month -
Birth year 1870
Age 66
Death quarter 1
Death year 1936
District HAILSHAM
County Sussex
Volume 2B
Page 177
Country England

greyghost

greyghost Report 16 Nov 2015 11:32

1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Blackdown, 1, Heathfield, Hailsham, Sussex, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Geo Brown Head Married Male 59 1842 Carpenter Buxted, Sussex, England
Esther Brown Wife Married Female 62 1839 - Ashford, Kent, England
Thos Brown Son Single Male 30 1871 Agric Laborer Mayfield, Sussex, England
Jane Brown Daughter Single Female 19 1882 - Heathfield, Sussex, England

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 16 Nov 2015 11:39

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1356146

(some other relating, on above)

Chris :)

malyon

malyon Report 16 Nov 2015 12:05

could this be the marriage og george and esther as she was born in kent


George Brown
England, Kent, Parish Registers
Name George Brown
Event Type Marriage
Event Date 16 Jun 1861
Event Place Lamberhurst, Kent, England
Gender Male
Spouse's Name Easter Grigsley
Spouse's Gender Female

Kathryn

Kathryn Report 16 Nov 2015 19:40

Thanks all for your help :-) GreyGhost I was hoping to find out where he worked lived and what age he died and where. I did notice something in the 1871 census, a child named Edward age 3. He was not mentioned in any family records I have come across. I thought it may have been Thomas but he is listed as being 1yo on that same census! Maybe the family missed him somehow?!?! Anyway thanks again everyone for your help it is greatly appreciated :-)

greyghost

greyghost Report 16 Nov 2015 22:30

The census would appear to show him as an Ag. Lab/Labourer/Carter and I would expect that he remains much along the same lines but have no proof.

I have posted a possible death, the death certificate may show a known relative registering the death.

Edward aged 3 in 1871 who you mention - I think you will find this is the Benjamin aged 15 in 1881. If you look at the list of siblings that I put up you will see Edward Benjamin b 1867 and he is named on Alfred John's Service records too.
(Not Charles Benjamin 1864 that you list on your other thread).

A good reason to keep all questions about the same family on one thread, so everything is together and we don't have to keep flipping between threads to compare what has been found!!

Thomas appears to have made a will which would fit with the death Q1 1936 - Thomas Brown of 1 Bungalow, Broad Oak, Heathfield, Sussex died 26 February 1936. Administration London 21 April to Benjamin Edward Brown furniture salesman. Effects £165
Getting a copy of the will may help your research on the family

Kathryn

Kathryn Report 17 Nov 2015 09:32

Thank you so much GreyGhost. You have been an amazing help.Thanks again to all of you who have helped :-) Greatly appreciated