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George Edward Butterworth 1907 Ramsbottom

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Mark

Mark Report 24 Jul 2016 12:33

I am looking into the above named gentleman, who is a great great nephew of my 2x great grandmother.

I am hoping someone may be able to confirm I have found the correct death record for him. Also I have been unable to find a marriage record if he did in fact get married.

Many thanks

Name:
George Edward Butterworth

Birth Date:
17 May 1907

Date of Registration:
Sep 1982

Age at Death:
75

Registration district:
Keighley

Inferred County:
Yorkshire West Riding

Volume:
4

Page:
0640

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 24 Jul 2016 12:59

Is this his birth? Was he a twin?

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Births Jun 1907 (>99%)
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BUTTERWORTH George Edward Saddleworth 9a 239
BUTTERWORTH Lily Saddleworth 9a 239

If so:

George Betterworth

in the 1911 England Census
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Name: George Betterworth
[George Butterworth]
Age in 1911: 3
Estimated birth year: abt 1908
Relation to Head: Son
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Saddleworth, Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish: Saddleworth
Search Photos: Search for 'Saddleworth' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection
County/Island: Yorkshire-West Riding
Country: England
Street address: Greenfield Nr Oldham
Registration district: Saddleworth
Registration District Number: 494
Sub-registration district: Saddleworth
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Piece: 26180
Household Members:
Name Age
Harry Betterworth 39
Mary Betterworth 32
Laura Betterworth 10
George Betterworth 3
Lily Betterworth 3


Mark

Mark Report 24 Jul 2016 13:06

George's parents are Edgar 1883 and Maggie Webster 1886

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 24 Jul 2016 13:19

In that case I would say that the death that you have is for the one born 1907, Saddleworth since the one with parents Edgar & Maggie was born 1906, Ramsbottom, Lancs.

George Edward Butterworth

in the 1911 England Census
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Name: George Edward Butterworth
Age in 1911: 5
Estimated birth year: abt 1906
Relation to Head: Son
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Ramsbottom, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Rochdale
Search Photos: Search for 'Rochdale' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address: 281A Entwisle Road Rochdale
Registration district: Rochdale
Registration District Number: 470
Sub-registration district: Whitworth and Wardle
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Piece: 24667
Household Members:
Name Age
Edgar Butterworth 28
Maggie Butterworth 25
George Edward Butterworth 5

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 24 Jul 2016 13:24

Presume this is the son of Edgar & Maggie. Bury district covers Ramsbottom.

Births Mar 1906 (>99%)
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Butterworth George Edward Bury 8c 542

EDIT: I notice in your tree that you have him born 1906, Ramsbottom so why did you say 1907 in your opening post? Trying to match the death of the other George Edward?

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 24 Jul 2016 13:43

possible child in 1911:

Births Dec 1911
Butterworth Edna Webster Salford 8d 109
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Marriages Jun 1933 (>99%)
Barnes William Butterworth Rochdale 8e 57
Butterworth Edna Barnes Rochdale 8e 57
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His Mum: (probate granted to Edna)
England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations)
BUTTERWORTH Maggie of 283 Bolton Road Stubbins Ramsbottom Lancashire Widow died 21 August 1956 at The Rossendale General Hospital, Ramsbottom Probate Manchester 17 September to Edna Barnes married woman and William Barnes railway employee.

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 24 Jul 2016 13:44

Possibly either one of these could be your George Edward but you'd have to buy the certificate to get father's name.

Marriages Sep 1924 (>99%)
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Butterworth George E Costello Bury 8c 1204

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Marriages Mar 1933 (>99%)
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BUTTERWORTH George E Palmer Bury 8c 575

lancashireAnn

lancashireAnn Report 25 Jul 2016 15:48

the 1924 marraige from above

Marriage: 23 Aug 1924 St Marie, Bury, Lancashire, England
Georgium Eduardum Butterworth -
Nora Costello -
Groom's Father: Ricardi Butterworth
Bride's Father: Jacobi Costello
Witness: Wilfred Isherwood; Anna Costello
Married by: Gulielmus Browne

lancashireAnn

lancashireAnn Report 25 Jul 2016 16:03

this is the only death I can find with a birth of 1906

Deaths Dec 1960 (>99%)
BUTTERWORTH George 54 Ashton 10b 175

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 25 Jul 2016 16:37

????
First name(s) GEORGE
Last name BUTTERWORTH
Gender Male
Birth day 24
Birth month 4
Birth year 1906
Age -
Death quarter 4
Death year 1990
District OLDHAM
Register number 1090
County Lancashire
Volume 39
Page 267
Country England
Record set England & Wales deaths 1837-2007
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Deaths & burials
Collections from Great Britain
(c) brightsolid online publishing ltd



First name(s) GEORGE
Last name BUTTERWORTH
Gender Male
Birth day 24
Birth month 5
Birth year 1906
Age -
Death quarter 2
Death year 1994
District OLDHAM
District number 0071C
Register number OC29B
Entry number 099
Date of registration mm/yy 0594
County Lancashire
Country England
Record set England & Wales deaths 1837-2007
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Deaths & burials
Collections from Great Britain
(c) brightsolid online publishing ltd

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 25 Jul 2016 16:41

(1911 Butterworth also on below 'Thread')

Marriages Sep 1905 (>99%)
BUTTERWORTH Edgar Bury 8c 1060
WEBSTER Maggie Bury 8c 1060

http://www.genesreunited.co.za/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1334388?d=asc

Chris :)

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 25 Jul 2016 17:03

As George's birth was registered in the first quarter of 1906, he may have been born late 1905.

Still not seeing a possible death for him nor a likely entry on the 1939 register.

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 25 Jul 2016 17:43

http://www.lancashirebmd.org.uk/

(above has below)

Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1906

BUTTERWORTH George Edward Ramsbottom Bury (Mother Maiden Name) WEBSTER RAMS/5A/6

Chris :)


(the 1918 Mark on above, is on 1939 with below, perhaps relates in family)

Marriages Jun 1914 (>99%)
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Butterworth Samuel Webster Bolton 8c 828
WEBSTER Nancy Butterworth Bolton 8c 828

(checked in case Brother!)

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 26 Jul 2016 12:07

I'm surprised, Mark, that you haven't responded to this to acknowledge that the death that you posted was for a different George Butterworth not the son of Edgar & Maggie.

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 26 Jul 2016 12:40

https://probatesearch.service.gov.uk/Calendar?surname=butterworth&yearOfDeath=1982&page=2#calendar

(for George Edward 1907- 1982)

(and below with twin sister Lily, same address)


1939 Register (Find My Past)

169 Chew Valley Road , Saddleworth U.D., Yorkshire (West Riding),

Edward H (G on image) Butterworth 17 May 1907 Male Wood Machinist Single
Harrop Butterworth 11 Jul 1871 Male Mill Fireman Married
Nancy Butterworth 31 Aug 1878 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married
Lily Butterworth 17 May 1907 Female Mender Woollen Textile Single

Chris :)

edits (wondered about below couple for names mentioned in Probate for Maggie, posted earlier)


Marriages Jun 1933 (>99%)
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Barnes William Butterworth Rochdale 8e 57
Butterworth Edna Barnes Rochdale 8e 57

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 31 Jul 2016 16:17

(well looking at 1939, George was one born in 1907, who died 1982, at same address, see link for Probate above)

(other George 1906, had Mother Maiden Name of Webster, as on Birth link posted earlier)

Chris :)

(which in turn relates to Webster on below, and Marriage posted above)


http://www.genesreunited.co.za/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1334388?d=asc

Marriages Sep 1905 (>99%)
BUTTERWORTH Edgar Bury 8c 1060
WEBSTER Maggie Bury 8c 1060


Mark Report 24 Jul 2016 13:06

George's parents are Edgar 1883 and Maggie Webster 1886

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 31 Jul 2016 18:55

It's very clear, Mark, that the one that you posted the death of in your opening post is not the son of Edgar & Maggie. He's the son of Harry & Mary in Saddleworth, Yorkshire.

So the question now is which one are you interested in?

Mark

Mark Report 31 Jul 2016 19:10

I am interested in the children of Edgar Butterworth & Maggie Webster - Maggies mother is Hannah Yates who is the daughter of William Yates and Martha Howarth.

Thank you