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Margaret

Margaret Report 9 Aug 2016 20:16

Hi
I am looking for a Harold Pate born c1898, Shuttleworth Lancashire. Possibly married and Alice, and they had 2 sons: Alan and Harold.
Love to hear from anybody with a possible connection.
Margaret

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MargaretM

MargaretM Report 9 Aug 2016 20:19

Possible marriage?

Marriages Dec 1921 (>99%)
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Holden Alice Pate Bury 8c 970
Pate Harold Holden Bury 8c 970

Dea

Dea Report 9 Aug 2016 20:24

Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1898
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
PATE Harold Walmersley Bury HOLT WAL/20/95
Total records matching : 1.

Dea x

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 9 Aug 2016 20:24

FreeBMD has a birth of Alan with MMN Holden but not Harold.

safc

safc Report 9 Aug 2016 21:23


Harold Pate on the 1939 Register

1939 Register Transcription

Pate Household (3 People) 36 Burnley Road , Ramsbottom U.D., Lancashire, England
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First name(s) Last name(s) DOB Sex Occupation Marital status Schedule Schedule Sub Number
Harold Pate 03 Jul 1898 Male Motor Haulage Contractor Married 259 1
Alice N Pate 02 May 1898 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 259 2
Fred Pate 27 Apr 1913 Male Pupil Surveyor (Unpaid) Single 259 3

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EDIT

fred pate 1923 not 1913

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 9 Aug 2016 21:32

Could the other son be Fred and not Harold?

Births Jun 1923 (>99%)
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Pate Fred Holden Bury 8c 769

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 9 Aug 2016 21:48

I have no connection to you, Margaret - I'm just one of the helpers.

Although I suspect it's later information you're looking for, I'll post the census, just in case you don't have them:


Harold Pate
in the 1901 England Census
Name: Harold Pate
Age: 2
Estimated birth year: abt 1899
Relation to Head: Son
Gender: Male
Father: John Pate
Mother: Jane Pate
Birth Place: Shiettleworth, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Ramsbottom
Ecclesiastical parish: Shuttleworth St John
Town: Ramsbottom
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address:
Registration district: Bury
Sub-registration district: Ramsbottom
ED, institution, or vessel: 15
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3633
Folio: 143
Page Number: 28
Household schedule number: 187
Household Members:
Name Age
John Pate 46
Jane Pate 44
Fred Pate 14
Alice Pate 12
James Pate 5
Harold Pate 2


Harold Pate
in the 1911 England Census
Name: Harold Pate
Age in 1911: 12
Estimated birth year: abt 1899
Relation to Head: Son
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Shuttleworth, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Ramsbottom
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address: 260 Whalley Rd Shuttleworth
Occupation: School Part Time
Registration district: Bury
Registration District Number: 462
Sub-registration district: Ramsbottom
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Piece: 23449
Household Members:
Name Age
Jane Pate 54
Fred Pate 24
Alice Pate 22
James Pate 15
Harold Pate 12
Jane White 69
Jane White 39

Also his birth, as you don't seem sure of the year. [EDIT: I see Dea has already posted this. Also safc's 1939 gives exact DOB]:

Harold Pate
in the England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
Name: Harold Pate
Registration Year: 1898
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration district: Bury
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume: 8c
Page: 564

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 9 Aug 2016 21:50

His death??

Deaths Jun 1963 (>99%)
PATE HAROLD 64 HEYWOOD 10C 415

And Alice's ??

Deaths Dec 1957 (>99%)
PATE Alice 59 Heywood 10c 449

safc

safc Report 9 Aug 2016 21:55

Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1898
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
PATE Harold Walmersley Bury HOLT WAL/20/95

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 9 Aug 2016 21:58

Fred's death, same reg district as parents:

Deaths Dec 1956 (>99%)
Pate Fred 33 Heywood 10c 367

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 9 Aug 2016 22:01

Possibly Alan's marriage??

Marriages Sep 1949 (>99%)
Dawson Gladys Pate Heywood 10c 1173
Pate Alan Dawson Heywood 10c 1173

Two possible births of children from that marriage, in Haslingden district, 1952 and 1958

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 9 Aug 2016 22:07

Alan's death??

Deaths Sep 1961 (>99%)
PATE Alan 34 Haslingden 10c 278

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 10 Aug 2016 16:45

PM from Margaret:

Thank you very much for your time and trouble looking this up for me.
We do not have much to go on. Information was not very forth coming from the family!.
Thanks again
Margaret