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Robert Frankish Franklin

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Bruce

Bruce Report 30 Dec 2016 22:29

Can anyone find a marriage registration for Robert Frankish Franklin and Hannah Maria Tomlinson. They had five children. Sarah died in the latter end of 1902 and I assume about the time of the birth of their fifth child.

Sylvia

Sylvia Report 30 Dec 2016 22:50

Hello Bruce

Can you give us as much info. as you have please. Where did the marriage take place, dates, and who is Sarah.

Sylvia

Sylvia Report 30 Dec 2016 22:56

Is this the family in 1901


First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Robert Frankish Franklin Head Married Male 41 1860 Machine Minder Laundry Goxhill, Lincolnshire, England Transcription
Sarah Maria Franklin Wife Married Female 37 1864 - Elsham, Lincolnshire, England Transcription
Leonard Franklin Son Single Male 7 1894 - Hull, Yorkshire, England Transcription
Doris Beatrice Franklin Daughter Single Female 4 1897 - Hull, Yorkshire, England Transcription
Bernard Wilford Franklin Son Single Male 2 1899 - Lincolnshire, England Transcription
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Bruce

Bruce Report 30 Dec 2016 23:04

my apologies I have typed Hannah and should be sarah.

Yes Sylvia, that is the family in 1901. I have been unable to find a marriage entry which would show where the marriage took place.
I have obtained the surname Tomlinson from the GRO records for the births of the children.

Sylvia

Sylvia Report 30 Dec 2016 23:04

If the above is the correct family, this is Sarahs death but I can not find a marriage for them.

SARAH MARIA
Last name FRANKLIN
Gender Female
Birth day -
Birth month -
Birth year 1864
Age 38
Death quarter 4
Death year 1902
District GLANFORD BRIGG
County Lincolnshire
Volume 7A
Page 416
Country England
Record set England & Wales deaths 1837-2007
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Deaths & burials

Bruce

Bruce Report 30 Dec 2016 23:09

sylvia
Yes that is the death of Sarah. I am wondering if they didnot get married.
Even if they had married at the local methodist church, it should show on either FreeBMD or GRO registration records

Sylvia

Sylvia Report 30 Dec 2016 23:12

Perhaps they never did marry Bruce.
I have looked and found nothing in any area.

Bruce

Bruce Report 30 Dec 2016 23:14

Thanks for your help and trying

Sylvia

Sylvia Report 30 Dec 2016 23:16

Do you have Robert Frankish on the 1991 census


First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Occupation Age Birth year Birth place
Robert F Franklin Head Widower Male Laundryman Rly 52 1859 Lincolnj Goxhill Transcription
Leonard R Franklin Son Single Male Crane Driver For Railway Co 17 1894 Yorkshire Hull Transcription
Doris B Franklin Daughter - Female - 14 1897 Yorkshire Hull Transcription
Bernard W Franklin Son - Male School 12 1899 Lincoln New Holland Transcription
Olga M G Franklin Daughter - Female School 8 1903 Lincoln New Holland Transcription
Lizzie Sokell Housekeeper Single Female - 42 1869 Lincoln New Holland

Bruce

Bruce Report 30 Dec 2016 23:18

Yes thanks I have a copy of the 1911 census

safc

safc Report 30 Dec 2016 23:19

????


1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Manchester Square, Barrow upon Humber, Glanford Brigg, Lincolnshire, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
John Franklin Head Widower Male 55 1836 Railway Engine Driver Barton, Lincolnshire, England
Transcription
Robert Franklin Son Single Male 30 1861 Railway General Labourer Goxhill, Lincolnshire, England
Transcription
William Franklin Son Single Male 29 1862 Living On His Own Means Goxhill, Lincolnshire, England
Transcription
Ada Franklin Daughter Single Female 21 1870 Cook Domestic Servant Lincolnshire, England
Transcription
Alice Franklin Daughter Single Female 18 1873 Housemaid Domestic Servant Lincolnshire, England
Transcription
Albert Franklin Son - Male 14 1877 Scholar Lincolnshire, England

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 31 Dec 2016 13:50

http://www.freereg.org.uk/

(not seeing him on above, but if anything else there, has Lincs.)

Chris :)

alviegal

alviegal Report 31 Dec 2016 21:05

You probably already know this, but this appears to be the child who died, poor mite was buried just after Christmas.

FRANKLIN, LEWIS VICTOR TOMLINSON Order
GRO Reference: 1899 D Quarter in GLANFORD BRIGG Volume 07A Page 697


FRANKLIN, LEWIS VICTOR 3 Order
GRO Reference: 1899 D Quarter in GLANFORD BRIGG Volume 07A Page 467


First name(s) Lewis Victor
Last name Franklin
Age 3M
Sex Male
Birth year 1899
Burial year 1899
Burial date 26 Dec 1899
Burial place Barrow On Humber
County Lincolnshire
Country England
Page 162

Bruce

Bruce Report 1 Jan 2017 20:48

Thanks for your help everyone

malyon

malyon Report 2 Jan 2017 21:38

this is the family in 1881

England
Registration District
Glanford Brigg
Residence Note
Square
Gender
Male
Age
21
Marital Status (Original)
Single
Occupation
General Labr
Relationship to Head of Household
Son
Birth Year (Estimated)
1860
Birthplace
Goxhill, Lincolnshire, England
Page Number
22
Registration Number
RG11
Piece/Folio
3290/57
Affiliate Record Type
Household
Household
Role
Gender
Age
Birthplace
John Franklin
Head
M
47
Barton On Humber, Lincolnshire, England
Elizabeth Franklin
Wife
F
47
Goxhill, Lincolnshire, England
Joseph Franklin
Son
M
23
Goxhill, Lincolnshire, England
Robert Franklin xxxx
Son
M
21
Goxhill, Lincolnshire, England
William Franklin
Son
M
19
Goxhill, Lincolnshire, England
Mary Franklin
Daughter
F
15
New Holland, Lincolnshire, England
Emma Franklin
Daughter
F
13
New Holland, Lincolnshire, England
Ada Franklin
Daughter
F
11
New Holland, Lincolnshire, England
Albert Franklin
Son
M
3
New Holland, Lincolnshire, England
Alice Franklin
Daughter
F
7
New Holland, Lincolnshire, England

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 3 Jan 2017 07:51

(can see below)

http://www.freereg.org.uk/

Chris :)

Baptism
County Lincolnshire
Place Barrow upon Humber
Church name Holy Trinity
Register type Unspecified
Register entry number 215
Baptism date 18 Jul 1902
Birth date 23 Jun 1902
Person forename Olga Margaret Gertrude
Person sex F
Person abode New Holland
Father forename Robert
Father surname FRANKLIN
Father occupation Labourer
Mother forename Sarah


Burial
County Lincolnshire
Place Elsham
Church name All Saints
Register type Unspecified
Burial date 12 Dec 1902
Person age 28
Burial person forename Sarah Maria
Burial person surname FRANKLIN

Deaths Dec 1902 (>99%)
-------------------------------------------------------------
Franklin Sarah Maria 38 Glanford B. 7a 416


Burial
County Lincolnshire
Place Goxhill
Church name All Saints
Register type Unspecified
Burial date 10 Nov 1897
Person age 64
Burial person forename John
Burial person surname FRANKLIN
Burial person abode New Holland
Burial person abode New Holland


Burial
County Lincolnshire
Place Goxhill
Church name All Saints
Register type Unspecified
Burial date 09 Apr 1883
Person age 49
Burial person forename Elizabeth
Burial person surname FRANKLIN
Burial person abode New Holland


Yorkshire Birth indexes for the years: 1894

FRANKLIN Leonard R Myton Hull MYT/191/287

http://www.yorkshirebmd.org.uk/index.php


TOMLINSON, SARAH MARIA (RHOADES)
GRO Reference: 1864 J Quarter in GLANFORD BRIGG Volume 07A Page 606


FRANKLIN, ROBERT FRANKISH (FRANKISH)
GRO Reference: 1859 S Quarter in GLANFORD BRIGG Volume 07A Page 616


Yorkshire Marriage indexes for the years: 1856

FRANKLIN John FRANKISH Elizabeth Holy Trinity Hull HD/16/317


08 November 1897 - Hull Daily Mail - Hull, East Riding of Yorkshire,

THROWN AGAINST A LEVER.
NEW HOLLAND ENGINE DRIVER'S DEATH. The accident sustained by John Franklin, engine driver, on the Great Central, last Tuesday, at Cleethorpes, terminated fatally yesterday. Franklin had completed a journey to Cleethorpes, and was taking his engine to the turnstile when a carriage which got loose ran violently into the engine, throwing deceased with great violence, against the sand lever. Franklin however, drove his engine back to New Holland, thence to Barton, and again to New Holland. A medical examination next morning discovered three broken ribs and punctured lungs.
Deceased was the eldest driver at New Holland, he had been in the Company's service over forty years.


Address for 1901 posted earlier.

Cooks Row, New Holland, Barrow upon Humber, Glanford Brigg, Lincolnshire,


(so Robert at home, 1891, Leonard Birth 1894 Hull (unless any found before?)

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 3 Jan 2017 12:16

(below looks to be Sarah)

Chris :)

1871 (Find My Past)
George Tomlinson Head - Male 48 1823 - Lincolnshire, England (Ag Lab)
Ann Tomlinson Wife - Female 40 1831 - Lincolnshire, England
Aaron Tomlinson Son - Male 14 1857 - Lincolnshire, England
Mary Ann Tomlinson Daughter - Female 12 1859 - Lincolnshire, England
Emma Tomlinson Daughter - Female 9 1862 - Lincolnshire, England
Sarah Tomlinson Daughter - Female 7 1864 - Lincolnshire, England
Lucy Tomlinson Daughter - Female 5 1866 - Lincolnshire, England
Winfred Tomlinson Daughter - Female 4 1867 - Lincolnshire, England
Samuel Tomlinson Son - Male 2 1869 - Lincolnshire, England
Betsey Tomlinson Daughter - Female 0 1871 - Lincolnshire, England
Street Elsham Hall
Parish Elsham
County Lincolnshire
Registration district Glanford Brigg
Archive reference RG10
Piece number 3430
Folio 21
Page 5


1891 (Find My Past)
George Tomlinson Head Married Male 69 1822 Agricultural Laborer Wrawby, Lincolnshire, England
Ann Tomlinson Wife Married Female 60 1831 - Wrawby, Lincolnshire, England
Alfred Tomlinson Son Single Male 17 1874 Agricultural Laborer Elsham, Lincolnshire, England
Ada Minnie Tomlinson Daughter Single Female 16 1875 - Elsham, Lincolnshire, England
Mary Ann Dale Daughter Widow Female 32 1859 - Wrawby, Lincolnshire, England
Rose Tomlinson Granddaughter - Female 10 1881 Scholar Elsham, Lincolnshire, England
Gerald Dale Grandson - Male 7 1884 Scholar Wootton, Lincolnshire, England
Ruth Dale Granddaughter - Female 1 1890 - Brigg, Lincolnshire, England
Nellie Tomlinson Granddaughter - Female 3 1888 - Sheffield, Yorkshire, England
Street Back Street
Town Elsham
Parish Elsham
City Lincolnshire
County Lincolnshire
Registration district Glanford Brigg
Archive reference RG12
Piece number 2626
Folio 97
Page 3


(possible for Sarah)

1891 (Find My Past)
William Steeper Head Single Male 70 1821 Living On Own Means Faldingworth, Lincolnshire, England
Sarah Tomlinson Servant Single Female 27 1864 Servant Domestic Wrawby, Lincolnshire, England
House name Cottage
Street South Street
Town Hemswell
Parish Lincoln
County Lincolnshire
Registration district Gainsborough
Archive reference RG12
Piece number 2632
Folio 86
Page 9


Marriages Jun 1850 (>99%)
---------------------------------------------------------
Rhodes Ann Glndf Brigg 14 629
Tomlinson George Glandford B. 14 629


County Lincolnshire
Place Wrawby
Church name St Mary Church
Register type Unspecified
Register entry number 158
Marriage date 16 May 1850
Groom forename George
Groom surname TOMLINSON
Groom age 29
Groom condition bachelor
Groom abode Wrawby
Groom parish Wrawby
Groom occupation Labourer
Bride forename Ann
Bride surname RHODES
Bride age 19
Bride condition spinster
Bride abode Wrawby
Bride parish Wrawby
Groom father forename Samuel
Groom father surname TOMLINSON
Groom father occupation Labourer
Bride father forename John
Bride father surname RHODES
Bride father occupation Labourer
Witness George RHODES
Witness Ann TOMLINSON


Burial
County Lincolnshire
Place Elsham
Church name All Saints
Register type Unspecified
Burial date 22 Mar 1903
Person age 81
Burial person forename George
Burial person surname TOMLINSON
Burial person abode Elsham

http://www.freereg.org.uk/

Bruce

Bruce Report 3 Jan 2017 19:20

Thank you both for those last two entries, some I had but you have filled in some more information, that I did not have. I getting more and more convinced that Robert and Sarah ever married.

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 4 Jan 2017 07:45

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=762183.0

(not found on above either!)

Chris :)