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The above brothers appear on both the 1901 and 1911 with their parents Harold & Alice Mary Whitham nee Haworth. Alan was born in Rawtenstall and by the time Denis was born the family had moved to Urmston Manchester.
The mystery is that on the 1939 census only Alice Mary remained at that house and described as a widow but I can't find a death for Harold. Also the sons are not present in 1939 so either were both in the military or had previously died or had emigrated. Just can't pin them down.
Any help would be appreciated.
Jennifer
:-(

Presume you have tried FreeBMD for possible marriages or deaths

Birth:
First name(s) ALLAN
Last name WITHAM
Birth year 1893
Birth quarter 3
District Haslingden
County Lancashire
Country England
Volume 8E Page 116
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Marriage:
First name(s) ALAN
Last name WITHAM
Marriage quarter 1
Marriage year 1919
Spouse: Ethel A Thompson
Spouse's last name Thompson
District Barton upon Irwell
County Lancashire
Country England
Volume 8C Page 939

1939
Witham Household "doone House" Broad Walk , Southgate M.B., Middlesex, England

Alan Witham 09 Aug 1893 Male Printer (Master) Married
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Death:

First name(s) ALAN
Last name WITHAM
Gender Male
Birth day 9
Birth month 8
Birth year 1893
Death quarter 1
Death year 1972
District Enfield
County Middlesex
Volume 5B Page 493
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Ethel's death:
First name(s) ETHEL ANNIE
Last name WITHAM
Gender Female
Birth day 10
Birth month 6
Birth year 1890
Death quarter 1
Death year 1978
District Enfield
County Middlesex
Volume 12 Page 0499

No first h in the surname on FMP

1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
55 Queens Road Urmston, Urmston, Lancashire, England

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First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Occupation Age Birth year Birth place
Harold Witham Head Married Male Clerk Flour Millers 48 1863 Lancashire Rawtenstall Transcription
Alice Mary Witham Wife Married Female - 43 1868 Lancashire Rawtenstall Transcription
Alan Witham Son Single Male Speculation Clerk Cotton Goods 17 1894 Lancashire Rawtenstall Transcription
Denis Haworth Witham Son - Male School. 14. 1897 Lancashire Urmston

This is his death - I'll post the probate in a minute


Deaths Mar 1931 (>99%)

Witham Harold 67 Manchester S. 8d 290

Maybe
GRO WAR DEATHS ARMY OTHER RANKS (1914 to1921) Transcription
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First name(s) Denis
Last name Witham
Death year 1917
Service number 4712
Rank Lance Corporal
Regiment or unit Royal Fusiliers
Record source GRO War Death Army Other Ranks (1914 to 1921)
Volume I.82
Page 286
Record set British Nationals Armed Forces Deaths 1796-2005


Denis Hayworth Witham
Rank:Lance CorporalS
Service No:4712Date
Date of Death:27/06/1917Age
Age:20Regiment
Regiment/Service:Royal Fusiliers 23rd Bn.
Grave Reference: K. 22.
Cemetery:CAMBRIN MILITARY CEMETERYAdditional Information:Son of Harold and Alice Mary Witham, of 55, Queen's Rd., Urmston, Manchester.

Harold Witham of Redvers, Queens road, Urmston. Died 1/1/31 at Royal Eye Hospital. Probate 17/2/31 to Alice Mary (widow) and Alan Witham (a painter). Effects £3384 5s 2d

British Army, De Ruvigny's Roll of Honour 1914-1918

First name(s) Denis Haworth
Last name Witham
Birth year 1897
Death year 1917
Service number 4712
Regiment City Of London Regt
Volume 3
Category Military, armed forces & conflict
Subcategory First World War
Collections from Great Britain

This also has a photo of him- born 29 January 1897- son of Harold Witham of Redvers, Queen's Road, Urmston by his wife Alice Mary, daughter of James Halworth.

When Alice Mary died 30 Oct1945 (still at same address) probate was granted to Alan Witham - master printer, so maybe it was a mis transcription on his fathers probate (painter?)

The 1939 shows him as a master Printer too

Wow. Thanks everyone. The mystery is soon solved by people who know what they are doing.

Hi Flip. How did you manage to see the Probate of Alice please? I don't see it on FMP. Did you see it on another site?

I use this site - Probate was granted in 1946, it's always best to try the year after a late death.

https://probatesearch.service.gov.uk/Calendar#calendar

Just search 1946 for Witham and you should find it

Edit, not sure if that link works - this is the website address

https://probatesearch.service.gov.uk/#wills

Found it. Thans Flip. I don't understand why the name Witham was sometimes shown
as Whitham.