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Jane Whitelaw, Lady's maid to Lady Kinnaird

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Ti

Ti Report 28 Apr 2017 16:51

sorry David

Ti

Ti Report 28 Apr 2017 16:51

his marriage vert to isabella Cockburn in 1880 states his father as a David Wotton. He is registered as Davd Wootten Whitelaw

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 28 Apr 2017 16:47

When David married, what details did he give for his parents please?


(Just trying to make sure that we have the correct Jane in 1861)

Ti

Ti Report 28 Apr 2017 16:47

Hi it was Straiton in Ayr, 1860... Feb 19th registered the 29th. Her profession was Lady's maid. No address for William.

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 28 Apr 2017 16:40

What was the address on David's birth registration please. Also, was there an occupation for Jane? An address for the informant, William?

Ti

Ti Report 28 Apr 2017 16:36

Cheers, still can't find anything after 1861!

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 28 Apr 2017 16:26

This is the Freecen version of that 1841 census

Piece: SCT1841/709 Place: Haddington -East Lothian Enumeration District: 5
Civil Parish: St Johns Haddington Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: St Johns Q.S.
Folio: 11 Page: 10
Address: Rosehall

Surname First name(s) Sex Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
WHITELAW Andrew M 40 Engineman East Lothian
Page: 11/11 WHITELAW Mary F 40 East Lothian
WHITELAW Thomas M 15 Gardener Apprentice East Lothian
WHITELAW Mark M 15 East Lothian
WHITELAW Jane F 12 East Lothian
WHITELAW James M 10 East Lothian
WHITELAW William M 7 East Lothian
WHITELAW Johana F 5 East Lothian
WHITELAW Andrew M. 3. East Lothian




Jane still with them in 1851 but with a different birth year


1851 Census

7 Records found



Piece: SCT1851/704 Place: Bolton -East Lothian Enumeration District: 1
Civil Parish: Bolton Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: Bolton
Folio: 0 Page: 1 Schedule: 7
Address: Colston Gate

Surname First name(s) Rel Status Sex Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
WHITELAW Andrew Head M M 52 Engineman Tile Work East Lothian - Haddington
WHITELAW Mary C. Wife M F 53 East Lothian - Tranent
WHITELAW Mark Son U M 24 Wood Forrester East Lothian - Haddington
WHITELAW Jane Dau U F 20 East Lothian - Haddington
WHITELAW James Son U M 18 Forrester East Lothian - Haddington
Page: 0/2 WHITELAW Joanna Dau U F 15 East Lothian - Yester
WHITELAW Andrew Son - M 13 Scholar East Lothian - Haddington




rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 28 Apr 2017 16:18

Still looking :-)

Ti

Ti Report 28 Apr 2017 16:04

Can you find any record of Jane Whitelaw from 1871 as I can't?

Ti

Ti Report 28 Apr 2017 16:02

Ah, that looks likely! Thank you!

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 28 Apr 2017 15:59

Yes. I saw that Ti but was wondering about this census record. I wondered if the address was some kind of training establishment for female servants?





1841 Census

Piece: SCT1841/685 Place: Edinburgh -Midlothian Enumeration District: 13
Civil Parish: Edinburgh Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: -
Folio: 155 Page: 6
Address: Royal Circus

Surname First name(s) Sex Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
WILSON Ann F 45 Boarding Estab England
WILSON Jane F 35 Boarding Estab England
MARGOT Julie F 20 Governess Overseas - Foreign
WHITELAW Jane F 15 Outside Census County (1841)
REID Eliza B. F 15 Outside Census County (1841)
ANDERSON Mary F 15 England
CUMMING Sophia F 15 Outside Census County (1841)
CUMMING Marjory F 10 Outside Census County (1841)
CAMPBELL Abbas A F 10 Outside Census County (1841)
WEMYSS Grace C F 10 Midlothian
ALLAN Jane F 20 Servant Outside Census County (1841)
BRODIE Jane F 20 Servant Outside Census County (1841)
MASTERTON Ann F 20 Servant Outside Census County (1841)




Ti

Ti Report 28 Apr 2017 15:56

This was the census result kindly found for the Whitelaw family in 1841, will look and see if she possibly returned to this area..

1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Rosehall, Haddington, Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Gender Age Birth year Birth place
Andrew Whitelaw Male 40 1801 Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland
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Mary Whitelaw Female 40 1801 Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland
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Thomas Whitelaw Male 15 1826 Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland
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Mark Whitelaw Male 15 1826 Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland
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Jane Whitelaw Female 12 1829 Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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James Whitelaw Male 10 1831 Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland
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William Whitelaw Male 7 1834 Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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Johana Whitelaw Female 5 1836 Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland
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Andrew Whitelaw Male 3 1838 Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland

Ti

Ti Report 28 Apr 2017 15:38

Hi there, you're right, he did, it's Jane Whitelaw am now trying to trace! We traced them to Maybole in Ayrshire but now I can't remember where I saw that, darn...

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 28 Apr 2017 15:27

For helpers. Here's a link to the other thread

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1365917

Ti, I thought it appeared on the other thread that her brother William registered Jane's son David's birth?

Ti

Ti Report 28 Apr 2017 15:14

Yes perhaps... no records from Scotland for her. There just is no way of knowing really as can't find a birth record for her either.

Maddie

Maddie Report 28 Apr 2017 15:10

maybe she returned to Scotland

Ti

Ti Report 28 Apr 2017 15:04

Thanks... no record of Jane with them then! Thanks for that.

Maddie

Maddie Report 28 Apr 2017 15:01

lord kinnard 1871

1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Elliot Hill, Lewisham, London, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Lord Kinnaird Head - Male 63 1808 - Middlesex, England
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Lady Kinnaird Wife - Female 53 1818 - Surrey, England
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Olivia B Ogilvy Daughter - Female 32 1839 - Nottinghamshire, England
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Reginald H A Ogilvy Son-In-Law - Male 38 1833 - Scotland
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Amelia Wade Visitor - Female 28 1843 - Middlesex, England
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Thomas Hoggard Servant - Male 22 1849 - Yorkshire, England
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Esther Lnagle Servant - Female 24 1847 - Lancashire, England
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Isabella Bedford Servant - Female 24 1847 - Huntingdonshire, England
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Mary A* Ostbury Servant - Female 37 1834 - London, Middlesex, England
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Ellen Barker Servant - Female 35 1836 - Yorkshire, England

Ti

Ti Report 28 Apr 2017 14:49

Hi, have received a lot of help on researching my geneology and am now stuck on this bit. I have a record of Jane Whitelaw lady's maid to Lady Kinnaird in 186 and am pretty sure she had an illegitimate child in 1860. She was age 33 on the 1861 census and I can't find any marriage records post this date, or any death records, or records of her whereabouts in England or Scotland. Not sure where Lord and Lady Kinnaird were residing in 1871, anyone suggest anything. Have googled lots and looked on census results for England and Scotland and nothing there... He was Baron Kinnaird of Rossie, Perth also.

This is the last record of her kindly supplied by a genesreunited member..


1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Woolbeding House, Woolavington, Midhurst, Sussex, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
George Ponsonby Head Married Male 87 1774 Landed Proprietor Ireland
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Dorothy M Ponsonby Wife Married Female 74 1787 - -
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Edward Lyly Howard Son In Law Married Male 51 1810 R H Admiral On Half Pay Chiswick, Middlesex, England
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Diana H L Howard Daughter Married Female 45 1816 - London, Middlesex, England
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Lord Kinnaird Visitor Married Male 53 1808 Peer P C K Y London, Middlesex, England
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Y A G Kinnaird Visitor Married Female 43 1818 - Rockhampton, Surrey, England
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Henry Barratt Servant Widower Male 47 1814 Butler Domestic Servant Berkshire, England
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Ann Dyer Servant Widow Female 60 1801 House Keeper Domestic Servant Langford, Wiltshire, England
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Sarah Harrison Servant To Daughter Unmarried Female 42 1819 Ladies Maid Domestic Servant Yarmouth, Norfolk, England
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William Talor Servant To Son Unmarried Male 31 1830 Valet Domestic Servant Wilton, Wiltshire, England
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Caroline Porter Servant Unmarried Female 32 1829 Ladys Maid Domestic Servant -
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Jane Whitelaw Servant To Visitor Unmarried Female 33 1828 Ladys Maid Domestic Servant Scotland xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx


There aren't any records of them being there in the 1871 census so am wondering where they went and if they took Jane with them???? Hope someone can help thanks..