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Cross Keys Inn, Nicholashayne, Devon

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Ian James

Ian James Report 10 Jun 2017 16:38

I am so grateful for the most recent information received, including fromMel, ArgyllAnn ,Algieval an others. All this will enable me to build up a picture for the
family, especially as they had no prior knowledge of George.
Many thanks.

mgnv

mgnv Report 10 Jun 2017 15:25

Using https://www.freecen.org.uk/cgi/search.pl
we can look up greyhost's 1891 hit

1891 Census
Piece: RG12/1872 Place: Wellington -Somerset Enumeration District: 3
Civil Parish: Culmstock Ecclesiastical Parish: All Saints
Folio: 23 Page: 3 Schedule: 13
Address: Cross Keys Inn
Surname First name(s) Rel Status Sex Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
HEAL George Head M M 67 Innkeeper(Em'ee) Devon - Washford Pyne
HEAL Flora Wife M F 62 Devon - Holcombe Rogus
HEAL Arthur Son S M 27 General Laborer(Em'ee) Devon - Cruwys Morchard
HEAL Edra Daur S F 23 Devon - Cruwys Morchard
HUNT Tom D P Grnson - M 7 Scholar Devon - Culmstock

The advantage of FreeCEN if you've no access to the images is that you can (repeatedly) click on the previous/next buttons to see adjacent households.
One adjacent h/h is Norishes Farm just 100m across road - but it's now renamed or rebuilt as Sandy Lane, so that's not much help.
This is exactly the approach that AG adopted, namely to try and trace the enumerator's path.

Look up the OS grid ref "ST 10280 16180" at http://www.streetmap.co.uk/ to see where I think it was.
I don't think the building exists anymore.You can alter the zoom levels - levels 1 and 2 are streetmaps; levels 2 and 4 are topological maps and are more suitable for rural lookups.
(NB at zoom 3/4, the blue grid lines are 1 km apart - the ref I gave is to the nearest metre - a bit OTT)

You can also look up the same grid ref at:
http://www.old-maps.co.uk/index.html
You want the 1889 Deven 1:2500 map. The most common scale is 1:10560, but this is really too small a scale to be useful.
Click on the tab at top right of map with the square on it to turn off blue

alviegal

alviegal Report 10 Jun 2017 11:50

This 'regular' at the Inn stayed at Red Ball, Culmstock.



EAST DEVON AND EAST OF THE EXE.
Sessions on Monday, Charles Rossiter, of Red Culmstock, old offender, pleaded guilty being diunk while in charge of, horse, Culmstock ; also refusing quit, the Cross Keys Inn, holashayne, kept by George Heale. Sirs. Heal" said the defendant entered the
10 May 1895 - Exeter and Plymouth Gazette - Exeter, Devon, England

This is an interesting site.

http://www.devonheritage.org/Places/Culmstock/CumlstockinGregorysDirectoryof1894.htm

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 9 Jun 2017 23:19

Going by the 1891 census, the properties listed both before and after the Cross Keys all seem to be farms. All widely scattered, as far as I can see, and all on unnamed lanes.
Everywhere in Nicholashayne has the same postcode, so that's no help.

There's a map on this page, showing some of the farms listed on the census:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/domesday/dblock/GB-308000-114000/page/12

The Cross Keys is the 13th property listed in Nicholashayne.

However, even Googling the names of the houses listed on either side of it doesn't really give any indication of where they were..

The first property listed is Furze House, which still exists, though I don't know exactly where.
http://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/4824852

Somewhere between there and No 12 is Pond Farm (Firefox is freezing on me now, so I'll give up on this for the moment.)
Pond Farm - still exists. Numerous references to it on Google, but no directions.
There's a Pond Lane in Nicholashayne, so presumably somewhere around there.
Pond House is now the home of a horse trainer, and looking at this map:
http://www.streetmap.co.uk/place/Nicholashayne_in_Devon_421611_227611.htm
it shows stables, which I think are on Pond Lane.

Also somewhere between 1 and 12 (can't look at the image at the moment - screen freezing) is Taylor's Farm.


No 12 is Norrishes

No 14 has an unreadable name, but I think it's just a farm cottage.

No 15 is Nicholashayne Farm.
Per Zoopla, Nicholashayne Farm "is on an unnamed road with 15 houses on it".

No 16 is Down's Green.
No 17 is down Green Cottage.
Down Green is "on the road from Upcott Farm" .
https://tinyurl.com/ycvkwqpd

18 is Tor Buddle Farm

19 is Windwhistle
20 is Burgess Cottage

21 is Upcott.
Upcott Cottages are "on the road from Nicholashayne Cross to Upcott Farm".
[TinyURL won't create a TinyURl for this.]

22 - nameless
23 - Northend

24 - Quants Farm
Here is a modern house built on the site of the original Quants Farm, with directions:
http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-37969573.html

25 - Chorley Farm
26 & 27 - nameless (farm labourers' cottages)

28 - Lane End.
Searching for Lane End on Streetview, it certainly shows a house at the end of a lane! Just downhill from it is Quants Barn.

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 9 Jun 2017 22:15

Think this could be George on the 1841. He had a son Arthur and a sister Mary two names from this family.



1841 England Census

Name: George Heal
Age: 15
Estimated birth year: abt 1826
Gender: Male
Where born: Devon, England
Civil Parish: Oakford
Hundred: Witheridge
County/Island: Devon
Country: England
Street address: Westapps ??

Registration district: Tiverton and Dulverton
Sub-registration district: Washfield
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 261
Book: 1
Folio: 7
Page Number: 8
Household Members:
Name Age
Arthur Heal 45 1796 Farmer
Ann Heal 40
William Heal 25
John Heal 20
Arthur Heal 20
George Heal 15
James Heal 14
Mary Heal 13
Susan Heal 9
Harriett Heal 7
Jane Heal 5
Eward Stile 14


1861 England Census

Name: George Heal
Age: 36
Estimated birth year: 1825
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Flora Heal
Gender: Male
Where born: Washford Pyne, Devon, England
Civil Parish: Cruwys Morchard
County/Island: Devon
Country: England
Street address:


Registration district: Tiverton
Sub-registration district: Washfield
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 75
Piece: 1481
Folio: 38
Page Number: 15
Household Members:
Name Age
George Heal 36
Flora Heal 32
Sarah A Heal 14
Caroline J Heal 12
Flora G Heal 10
William G Heal 8
Mary H Heal 6
John Heal 3
George Heal 1

alviegal

alviegal Report 9 Jun 2017 21:51

Another daughter. She marries in 1871.


Devon Baptisms Transcription
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First name(s) Flora Godfrey
Last name Heal
Birth year -
Baptism year 1851
Baptism date 20 Apr 1851
Denomination Anglican
Baptism place Oakford
Father's first name(s) George
Mother's first name(s) Flora
Mother's last name -
County Devon


Ah here they are mistranscribed in 1861.


1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Case Lane, Cruwys Morchard, Tiverton, Devon, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
George Kale Head Married Male 36 1825 Dairymen Washford Pyne, Devon, England
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Flora Kale Wife Married Female 32 1829 Dairymen Wife Holcombe Rogus, Devon, England
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Sarah A Kale Daughter Unmarried Female 14 1847 Dairymen Daughter Oakford, Devon, England
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Caroline J Kale Daughter Unmarried Female 12 1849 Dairymen Daughter Huntsham, Devon, England
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Flora G Kale Daughter Unmarried Female 10 1851 Dairymen Daughter Oakford, Devon, England
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William G Kale Son Unmarried Male 8 1853 Dairymen Son Oakford, Devon, England
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Mary H Kale Daughter - Female 6 1855 Dairymen Daughter Brushford, Somerset, England
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John Kale Son - Male 3 1858 Dairymen Son East Anstey, Devon, England
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George Kale Son - Male 1 1860 Dairymen Son East Anstey, Devon, England

alviegal

alviegal Report 9 Jun 2017 21:38


1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
West Apps, Oakford, Tiverton & Dulverton, Devon, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Gender Age Birth year Birth place
Arthur Heal Male 45 1796 Devon, England
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Ann Heal Female 40 1801 Devon, England
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William Heal Male 25 1816 Devon, England
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John Heal Male 20 1821 Devon, England
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Arthur Heal Male 20 1821 Devon, England
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George Heal Male 15 1826 Devon, England
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James Heal Male 14 1827 Devon, England
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Mary Heal Female 13 1828 Devon, England
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Susan Heal Female 9 1832 Devon, England
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Harriett Heal Female 7 1834 Devon, England
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Jane Heal Female 5 1836 Devon, England
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Edward Stile Male 14 1827 Devon, England



1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Lower Oakford, Oakford, Tiverton, Devon, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
George Heal Head Married Male 28 1823 Ag Labourer Washford Pyne, Devon, England
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Flora Heal Wife Married Female 24 1827 - Dulverton, Somerset, England
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Caroline J Heal Daughter - Female 2 1849 - Huntsham, Devon, England
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Mary A Turner Visitor Unmarried Female 23 1828 General Servt West Anstey, Devon, England


His marriage?


England & Wales marriages 1837-2005 Transcription

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First name(s) GEORGE
Last name HEAL
Marriage quarter 1
Marriage year 1847
Registration month -
MarriageFinderâ„¢ GEORGE HEAL married one of these people
>>Flora Godfrey<<, Elizabeth Harding, Ann Moore
District Tiverton
District number -
County Devon
Country England
Volume 10
Page 405

Ian James

Ian James Report 9 Jun 2017 16:10

Many thanks Shirley, Mel and Aviegal. Thank you for your time I am
most grateful.
The Heal line I am assisting have virtually no details of their ancestors, so everything is a bonus.
Ian

alviegal

alviegal Report 9 Jun 2017 15:12

CULLOMPTON PETTY SESSIONS.
George Heal, Flora Heal, and Ernest Heal, father, wife, and son, occupying the Cross Keys. Nicholshayes, Culmstock, were summoned for assaulting Mr William Henry Pearce, a local farmer.

Western Times 27 July 1887

Basically they said that Flora was assaulted by the customer who was drunk and would not leave when asked to. George and Ernest then got involved and a fight broke out.

The customer said that he had been attacked by George when George overheard a conversation and thought that he was being blamed for something. Ernest and Flora then waded in also.

The Bench considered the attack on Pearce was unjustified and the Heals were collectively fined £1 12s 6d, inclusive of costs.
The Bench considered an attack had been made on Flora but there had been extenuating circumstances and Pearce was ordered to pay costs of 11s 6d.




At the Cullompton Petty Sessions yesterday George Heal, landlord of the Cross Keys publichouse, Culmstoek, was fined two guineas, including costs, for serving liquor to person in a state of partial intoxication. His licence was not, however, endorsed.

01 June 1886 - Exeter and Plymouth Gazette - Exeter, Devon, England




CULLOMPTON.

The transfers of licenses took place :-The Cross Nicholashayne, Culmstock, from Flora Heal to Jas Holway

03 November 1896 - Western Times - Exeter, Devon, England



I thought there might be some indication in these reports as to where exactly the Cross Keys Inn was but I'm afraid there isn't.

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 9 Jun 2017 09:14

1893/George Heal/../../../Kellys Directory

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 9 Jun 2017 09:08

http://pubshistory.com/Devon/Culmstock/CrossKeys.shtml

Ian James

Ian James Report 9 Jun 2017 07:42

Thank you all for the useful information. I did find an entry in 1911 census whichwould indicate the inn had 11 rooms, so fairly substantial.
Maybe now a private property so I will arrange to visit the village whenthe weather improves.
Thanks again.
Ian

greyghost

greyghost Report 8 Jun 2017 23:01


1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Cross Keys Inn, Nicholashayne, Culmstock, Williton****, Somerset, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
George Heal Head Married Male 67 1824 Inn Keeper Washford Pyne, Devon, England
Flora Heal Wife Married Female 62 1829 - Holcombe Rogus, Devon, England
Arthur Heal Son Single Male 27 1864 General Labourer Devon, England
Edra Heal Daughter Single Female 23 1868 - Devon, England
Tom D P Heal Grandson - Male 7 1884 Scholar Culmstock, Devon, England

**** Think this should read Wellington.

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 8 Jun 2017 22:20

1871 England Census

Name: George Heal
Age: 46
Estimated birth year: abt 1825
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Flora Heal
Gender: Male
Where born: Washford Pyne, Devon, England
Civil Parish: Cruwys Morchard
Ecclesiastical parish: Exeter
County/Island: Devon
Country: England
Registration district: Tiverton
Sub-registration district: Washfield
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Household schedule number: 103
Piece: 2174
Folio: 80
Page Number: 21
Household Members:
Name Age
George Heal 46 Dairyman**************
Flora Heal 43
Mary H Heal 16
Walter James Heal 10
Arthur Heal 8
Robert Heal 6
Edra Heal 3 Dau
Ernest Heal 1

safc

safc Report 8 Jun 2017 21:45


1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Red Lion Inn, Back Street, Bampton, Tiverton, Devon, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
George Heal Head Married Male 53 1828 Licensed Victualler Devon, England
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Flora Heal Wife Married Female 50 1831 - Holcombe Rogus, Devon, England
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Elsa Heal Daughter Single Female 13 1868 Assistant Cruwys Morchard, Devon, England
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Ernest Heal Son Single Male 11 1870 Scholar Devon, England
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William Ross Boarder Widower Male 72 1809 Traveller France
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John Courtney Boarder Married Male 37 1844 Railway Lb Barnstaple, Devon, England
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Henry Griffin Boarder Single Male 21 1860 Railway Lb Exeter, Devon, England

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 8 Jun 2017 21:35

Have you tried googling it , sometimes info will be online

Don't think any helpers would just know and google will be the way to go

Ian James

Ian James Report 8 Jun 2017 21:19

Grateful for any information on the above Inn, and on George Heal,
landlord who died in 1895,
Would anyone know where it was in Nicholashayne.
George also ran a pub (long demolished)in Bampton ? Red Lion in Back STreet.
Many thanks