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(lol, AQ, yes!)

Chris :)

Was just looking at below...

England & Wales, Criminal Registers, 1791-1892 (Ancestry)

(James Garrod 1 Nov 1884 Essex, England)

(Burglary and former conviction of felony. 10 years)


Edits (no, the above one was 62, according to newspaper reports)

Think Chris means the 1894 marriage cert :-)

Would try for that 1897 Marriage Cert...(worth getting!)

Chris :)

I have got in touch with a family member who is the grt granddaughter of James she is so excited.i will give her all I have.Thank you once again.

(Ooerr!, AG, well done!, worth a bit more investigation on methinks, lol)

Chris :)

Oh my goodness I thought you had finished helping me I get on to check things out and to my surprise you all have helped me again. wow what a ancestor to have .That's why there was so many aliases.Thank you all so so much.xx

Re Hobart -

Harriet's claiming to be married in 1881 although Hobart's not there (posted previously), but is a widow in 1891. Can't see any sign of him after 1871, though:

Harriet Garrard
in the 1891 England Census
Name: Harriet Garrard
Gender: Female
Age: 61
Relationship: Head
Birth Year: 1830
Child: Annie Garrard
Ellen Garrard
Birth Place: Ipswich, Suffolk, England
Civil Parish: St Matthew
Residence Place: Ipswich, St Matthew, Suffolk, England
Sub registration district: Ipswich Western
ED, Institution or Vessel: 6
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1466
Folio: 86
Household Members:
Name Age
Harriet Garrard 61
Annie Garrard 21
Ellen Garrard 18


Harriet Garrard
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1837-1915
Name: Harriet Garrard
Estimated birth year: abt 1829
Registration Year: 1892
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
Age at Death: 63
Registration district: Ipswich
Inferred County: Suffolk
Volume: 4a
Page: 471

WOW! AG that's fabulous :)

Aha! Have struck gold ! Good-looking lad, per the woodcut. Can't say the same for Annie, per the description -

James Garrod
in the UK, Police Gazettes, 1812-1902, 1921-1927
Name: James Garrod
[James Woods]
[James Smith]
Age: 24
Birth Year: abt 1866
Event Type: Apprehensions
Event Date: 13 Feb 1890
Event Place: Chelmsford, Essex
Publication Date: 14 Mar 1890
Role in Crime: Perpetrator


Essex - Chelmsford.
Woodcut portrait (taken in 1885), and description of James GARROD, or GARRARD, alias WOODS and SMITH, whose apprehension is sought for stealing 7s and a purse from the person, 13th ult., and who escaped from custody 14th inst., age about 24, height about 5ft 4 or 5", complexion fresh, hair (inclined to be sandy) dark, moustache sandy, eyes blue, tattooed on arms.
Supposed to have cut his feet and legs by jumping a fence at the time he escaped, having nothing on but his shirt. Is a very swift runner.
A bricklayer's labourer; native of Ipswich.
May apply to builders and contractors for employment.
May be in the company of a woman named PAGE, of Ipswich, age about 26, height 5 ft, coarse features, big mouth, short upper lip, shows her teeth, hair (cut short all round and combed down flat over forehead to eyebrows) sandy, tattooed on arms with several letters, H.O., P.O., etc
Warrant issued.
Information to Deputy Chief Constable Somerset, Chelmsford.

I'm fairly certain the 1884 prison register is for our James. He was convicted of stealing the lead from the roof of St Matthew's Church. Our James was living in St Matthew's parish at that time.

A few articles on the offence report he was from 'The Mount'- Handford Road was in this area (the family were living at Handford Cut- a road running off Handford Road)

lol AG...(never!)

Think Carol would need to buy some Certs...

Chris :)

http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/D8014199

(above was probably the other party, 1897 Marriage)

Was also looking for Hobart Garrod (his Father) after 1871...

(out shopping shortly, will look in later, have fun!)

Very well done with the marriage, AQ!

I spent hours looking for it, with all sorts of variations, and couldn't find it!

Thank goodness - now I can relax!

Lol Chris!

Unfortunately that's as much as I can add- I can't see the details of the marriage on-line.

I did wonder if James had been married previously (to a Sarah A Bloomfield) in Ipswich 1884 (James would just be 18). I can't see any children born to the couple. Then wondered if this was James- it wouldn't have been a great start to a marriage:

England & Wales, Crime, Prisons & Punishment
First name(s) James
Last name Garrod
Year 1884
Birth year 1867
Occupation Labourer
County Suffolk
Court Ipswich
Age 17
Date 16 Oct 1884
A Calendar Of Prisoners Tried At The October General Quarter Sessions Of The Peace For The Year 1884

(oh AQ, how wonderful, lol, lol)

Chris :)

(prepare to go crazy!)

Edits (not seeing on London, Ancestry)

Possible marriage?

Marriages Dec 1894
Esquilant Emma Woolwich 1d 1897
Forsmark Carl Oscar Woolwich 1d 1897
Garrard James Woolwich 1d 1897<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Page Annie Woolwich 1d 1897<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

Thank you all very much the mystery is still there.we will try and work will what we have got and drive ourselves made lol.

(as I asked earlier Carol, is there none of the siblings of Alice that you know of, or any names that ring a bell?)

Seemed to have been at Baldwins (Baldwyns) Road for some years...

Chris :)

Highly unlikely, Carol!

could it be a coincidence that there was two annes and two james living in the same house.Just saying.lol

Another one:

GARRETT, ROBERT mms PAGE
GRO Reference: 1901 S Quarter in DARTFORD Volume 02A Page 604

I don't see his death before 1911, where he doesn't appear on the census.