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PORRITT (amended)

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Marian

Marian Report 11 Oct 2018 21:34

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Hello

I have Edward Smith aged 20 an engine fitter married Mary Jane Porritt aged 18 at Holy Trinity church, Throston, Hartlepool on 9 February 1873. Edward's father an engineer also called Edward and Mary Jane's father a grocer., called Jonathan. In 1881 for 40 James Street West Hartlepool Mary Jane is with her mother Mary Porritt aged 60, her brother Joseph 18 and her sister Margaret aged 14. Jonathan is dead. Mary Jane is 25 but says SINGLE. I can't find Edward on the 1881 census and can't find either of them in 1891. On 1871 census for Edward at Hartlepool it says born West Hartlepool. Can anyone find them? It's unfortunate they are called Smith. Thank you.

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 11 Oct 2018 21:39

On the image for the 1881 census it says Mary Jane Smith is married.

Kath. x

Marian

Marian Report 11 Oct 2018 21:46

Hello Kath, thanks I have only got access to familysearch and it says single so they must have transcribed it wrong.

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 11 Oct 2018 21:52

Yes, on Findmypast the transcription says single but the image has married.

I can't find them on the 1891 census though. Do you know if they had children and if so what were their names?

Kath. x

Marian

Marian Report 11 Oct 2018 21:58

I can't find any children on the GRO for Smith/Porritt, at least not theirs. Her cousin Mary (father Robert) married a George Smith from Newport Wales.

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 11 Oct 2018 22:01

There are two Smith/Porritt births in Stockton in 1875 and 1877 which is not long after their marriage???

EDIT - no, you can forget these two. I have found them in 1881 with their widowed mother who is Alice.

Kath. x

malyon

malyon Report 11 Oct 2018 22:22

SMITH, ERNEST PORRITT Order
GRO Reference: 1875 D Quarter in DEWSBURY Volume 09B Page 698 Order
SMITH, SAMUEL EDWARD PORRITT Order
GRO Reference: 1874 M Quarter in DEWSBURY Volume 09B Page 696

malyon

malyon Report 11 Oct 2018 22:26

there is only one marriage for smith and porritt in hartleypool so these could be their children sadley mary died

SMITH, ROBERT PORRITT Order
GRO Reference: 1881 M Quarter in HARTLEPOOL Volume 10A Page 115

SMITH, MARY HESELTON PORRITT Order
GRO Reference: 1878 S Quarter in HARTLEPOOL Volume 10A Page 167

Deaths Dec 1879 (>99%)
Smith Mary Heselton 1 Hartlepool 10a 67

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 11 Oct 2018 22:27

I think the Dewsbury births will be children of this marriage:-

First name(s) FREDERIC EDWIN
Last name SMITH
Marriage quarter 2
Marriage year 1872
Registration month -
MarriageFinder ™

FREDERIC EDWIN SMITH married one of these people

Manassah Bailey, >>>>>Lucy Ann Porritt,<<<<< Grace Rhodes Brooksbank

District Dewsbury<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
District number -
County Yorkshire
Country England
Volume 9B
Volume as transcribed 9B
Page number 895
Record set England & Wales Marriages 1837-2005

Kath. x

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 11 Oct 2018 22:35

For our reference:

Edward Smith
in the 1871 England Census
Name: Edward Smith
Age: 18
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1853
Relation: Son
Father's name: Edward Smith
Mother's name: Sarah Smith
Gender: Male
Where born: West Hpool, Durham, England
Civil Parish: Stranton
Town: West Hartlepool
County/Island: Durham
Country: England
Registration district: Hartlepool
Sub-registration district: Hartlepool
ED, institution, or vessel: 37
Household schedule number: 71
Piece: 4921
Folio: 37
Page Number: 17
Household Members:
Name Age
Edward Smith 59
Sarah Smith 55
Edward Smith 18
William Appleby 22


Edward Smith
in the 1861 England Census
Name: Edward Smith
Age: 9
Estimated Birth Year: 1852
Relation: Son
Father's name: Edward Smith
Mother's name: Sarah Smith
Gender: Male
Where born: Sunderland, Durham, England
Civil Parish: York All Saints North Street
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Registration district: York
Sub-registration district: Micklegate
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors:
Household schedule number: 279
Piece: 3547
Folio: 28
Page Number: 50
Household Members:
Name Age
Edward Smith 47
Sarah Smith 44
Margaret Smith 20
Edward Smith 9

malyon

malyon Report 11 Oct 2018 23:00

i have just found this death for a mary jane smith could she be the one married in 1873 aged 18

Deaths Mar 1877 (>99%)
Smith Mary Jane 22 Hartlepool 10a 73


PORRITT, MARY JANE LAWSON Order
GRO Reference: 1855 D Quarter in WHITBY Volume 09D Page 371

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 11 Oct 2018 23:23

I think the 1881 Robert Smith with mms Porritt posted earlier by Malyon is the son of this couple:

Marriages Mar 1877 (>99%)
MIDDLETON Mary Hartlepool 10a 154
Smith George Hartlepool 10a 154


George Smith was Mary's second husband.

Marriages Jun 1865 (>99%)
Middleton George Hartlepool 10a 225
Porritt Mary Hartlepool 10a 225

This is the family:


George Smith
in the 1881 England Census
Name: George Smith
Age: 47
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1834
Relationship to Head: Head
Spouse: Mary Smith
Gender: Male
Where born: New Porte, Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish: Stranton
County/Island: Durham
Country: England
Street address: 46 Morland St
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Platelayer
Registration district: Hartlepool
ED, institution, or vessel: 39
Neighbors:
Piece: 4911
Folio: 20
Page Number: 33
Household Members:
Name Age
George Smith 47
Mary Smith 34
Whilliam C. Smith 15
Lizabeth A. Smith 7
Robert Smith [4 months, on image] <<<<<<<<<<<<
George Smith 9
Hannah Midleton 14
Sarah Midleton 8
Marget J. Midleton 5
Robert Porritt 69 - father-in-law
John Porritt 30 - brother

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 11 Oct 2018 23:41

FamilySearch shows the marriage of Edward and Mary Jane, but on the GRO Index, Mary is called Margaret:

Margaret Jane Porritt
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Marriage Index, 1837-1915
Name: Margaret Jane Porritt
Registration Year: 1873
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration district: Hartlepool
Inferred County: Durham
Volume: 10a
Page: 214
Records on Page:
Name
Margaret Jane Porritt
Edward Smith

mgnv

mgnv Report 12 Oct 2018 17:28


1861 Census
Piece: RG9/3704 Place: Hartlepool -Co. Durham Enumeration District: 33
Civil Parish: Stranton Ecclesiastical Parish: Stranton
Folio: 71 Page: 26 Schedule: 128
Address: Stranton Village
Surname First name(s) Rel Status Sex Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
PORRITT Jonathan Head M M 42 Coal Trimmer Yorkshire - Kilton
PORRITT Mary Wife M F 39 Co. Durham - Kelloe
PORRITT Margaret Dau U F 13 Scholar Co. Durham - Haverton Hill
PORRITT William Son U M 11 Scholar Co. Durham - Stranton
PORRITT George Son - M 9 Scholar Co. Durham - Stranton
PORRITT John Son - M 6 Scholar Co. Durham - Stranton
PORRITT Mary Jane Dau - F 5 Co. Durham - Stranton
PORRITT Jonathan Son - M 3 Co. Durham - Stranton
PORRITT Ann Dau - F 1 Co. Durham - Stranton



1871 Census
Piece: RG10/4919 Place: Hartlepool -Co. Durham Enumeration District: 28
Civil Parish: Stranton Ecclesiastical Parish: Christ Church
Folio: 28 Page: 46 Schedule: 240
Address: 18 Stockton Street
Surname First name(s) Rel Status Sex Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
PORRITT Jonn Head M M 56 Coal Trimmer Yorkshire - Bilton
PORRITT Mary Wife M F 50 Co. Durham - Kelloe
PORRITT Wm Son U M 21 Grocer Co. Durham - Stranton
PORRITT Geo Son U M 19 Engineer Co. Durham - Stranton
PORRITT John Son U M 17 Labourer Docks Co. Durham - Stranton
PORRITT Jonn Son - M 13 Scholar Co. Durham - Stranton
PORRITT Joseph Son - M 8 Scholar Co. Durham - West Hartlepool
PORRITT Mary J Dau - F 15 Co. Durham - Stranton
PORRITT Margt E Dau - F 4 Co. Durham - West Hartlepool






Marriages Jun 1845 (>99%)
Carter Jane Easington 24 124
Hood Margaret Easington 24 124
McMillan Joseph Easington 24 124
Perridge Jonathan Easington 24 124
RIDLEY Mary Easington 24 124
Smith Mary Easington 24 124
Stewart George Easington 24 124
Walsh Robert Easington 24 124


Using the local index to determine who wed whom
https://gro.durham.gov.uk/
Marriage certificate for:
Name: RIDLEY, Mary
Year: 1845
Other index entries for this marriage:
PARRIDGE, Jonathan


PERRATT, MARGARET ELIZABETH RIDLEY Order
GRO Reference: 1845 S Quarter in EASINGTON Volume 24 Page 122

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-DZW3-3G7?i=503&wc=9K5M-T3D%3A13618101%2C28349502%2C28349503&cc=1309819
bp 15/7/1845 St Helen's Kelloe

https://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/31327
NZ3436 : St. Helen's Church
Subject Location NZ 345 365 [100m precision]

PORRETT, MARGARET ELIZABETH 1 Order
GRO Reference: 1846 D Quarter in STOCKTON AND SEDGEFIELD Volume 24 Page 214

PORRITT, MARGARET ELIZABETH RIDLEY Order
GRO Reference: 1847 S Quarter in STOCKTON AND SEDGEFIELD Volume 24 Page 241

PORRITT, WILLIAM RIDLEY Order
GRO Reference: 1849 D Quarter in STOCKTON AND SEDGEFIELD Volume 24 Page 241

PORRETT, GEORGE RIDLEY Order
GRO Reference: 1851 J Quarter in STOCKTON Volume 24 Page 310

PORRIT, JOHN RIDLEY Order
GRO Reference: 1853 J Quarter in STOCKTON Volume 10A Page 67

PORRETT, MARY JANE RIDLEY Order
GRO Reference: 1855 J Quarter in STOCKTON Volume 10A Page 81

PORRITT, JONATHAN RIDLEY Order
GRO Reference: 1857 D Quarter in STOCKTON Volume 10A Page 72

PORRITT, ANN RIDLEY Order
GRO Reference: 1859 D Quarter in HARTLEPOOL Volume 10A Page 113
PORRITT, ANN 2 Order
GRO Reference: 1862 M Quarter in HARTLEPOOL Volume 10A Page 78

PORRITT, JOSEPH RIDLEY Order
GRO Reference: 1862 J Quarter in HARTLEPOOL Volume 10A Page 115

PORRITT, MARGARET ELIZABETH RIDLEY Order
GRO Reference: 1866 D Quarter in HARTLEPOOL Volume 10A Page 150

Deaths Sep 1879 (>99%)
Porritt Jonathan 64 Hartlepool 10a 70

Marian

Marian Report 13 Oct 2018 16:49

Thanks everyone. It's definitely Mary Jane who marries Edward. I can't find them anywhere so guess they have disappeared. Thank you all for looking.

Marian

Marian Report 11 Oct 2023 16:05

Hello

I have a few posts regarding Porritt (added way back when no one kept to one thread) so I've added this post to this thread because it mentions Jonathan Porritt, the head of the family. On FMP in the Index to Death Duty Registers 1796-1903, there is an entry for Jonathan dated 1881 (he died 1879). Could someone please take a look to see what the entry actually says as I don't know what information is on the registers. This is the only information I require. I have a copy of his Will. I don't need any other information for Jonathan only the above death duty register. Thank you very much.

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 11 Oct 2023 17:31

It’s for Jonathan) Porritt .late of west Hartlepool died 24th sept 1879 was proved by William Newark Pearson accountant and William Porritt of 21 Albion Street west Hartlepool foreman warehouseman the son and executors
Personal estate £15


Jonathan
County Durham
Last name Porritt
Volume 10A
Sex Male
Page 70
Birth year 1815
Country England
Age 64
Record set England & Wales Deaths 1837-2007
Death quarter 3
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Death year 1879
Subcategory Civil Deaths & Burials
District Hartlepool

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 11 Oct 2023 17:40

That tells you exactly the same as his Probate record.

Marian

Marian Report 11 Oct 2023 18:18

Thank you Shirley and Argyll.