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11 Oct 2018 21:34 |
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Hello
I have Edward Smith aged 20 an engine fitter married Mary Jane Porritt aged 18 at Holy Trinity church, Throston, Hartlepool on 9 February 1873. Edward's father an engineer also called Edward and Mary Jane's father a grocer., called Jonathan. In 1881 for 40 James Street West Hartlepool Mary Jane is with her mother Mary Porritt aged 60, her brother Joseph 18 and her sister Margaret aged 14. Jonathan is dead. Mary Jane is 25 but says SINGLE. I can't find Edward on the 1881 census and can't find either of them in 1891. On 1871 census for Edward at Hartlepool it says born West Hartlepool. Can anyone find them? It's unfortunate they are called Smith. Thank you.
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KathleenBell
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11 Oct 2018 21:39 |
On the image for the 1881 census it says Mary Jane Smith is married.
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Marian
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11 Oct 2018 21:46 |
Hello Kath, thanks I have only got access to familysearch and it says single so they must have transcribed it wrong.
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KathleenBell
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11 Oct 2018 21:52 |
Yes, on Findmypast the transcription says single but the image has married.
I can't find them on the 1891 census though. Do you know if they had children and if so what were their names?
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Marian
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11 Oct 2018 21:58 |
I can't find any children on the GRO for Smith/Porritt, at least not theirs. Her cousin Mary (father Robert) married a George Smith from Newport Wales.
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KathleenBell
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11 Oct 2018 22:01 |
There are two Smith/Porritt births in Stockton in 1875 and 1877 which is not long after their marriage???
EDIT - no, you can forget these two. I have found them in 1881 with their widowed mother who is Alice.
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malyon
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11 Oct 2018 22:22 |
SMITH, ERNEST PORRITT Order GRO Reference: 1875 D Quarter in DEWSBURY Volume 09B Page 698 Order SMITH, SAMUEL EDWARD PORRITT Order GRO Reference: 1874 M Quarter in DEWSBURY Volume 09B Page 696
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malyon
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11 Oct 2018 22:26 |
there is only one marriage for smith and porritt in hartleypool so these could be their children sadley mary died
SMITH, ROBERT PORRITT Order GRO Reference: 1881 M Quarter in HARTLEPOOL Volume 10A Page 115
SMITH, MARY HESELTON PORRITT Order GRO Reference: 1878 S Quarter in HARTLEPOOL Volume 10A Page 167
Deaths Dec 1879 (>99%) Smith Mary Heselton 1 Hartlepool 10a 67
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KathleenBell
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11 Oct 2018 22:27 |
I think the Dewsbury births will be children of this marriage:-
First name(s) FREDERIC EDWIN Last name SMITH Marriage quarter 2 Marriage year 1872 Registration month - MarriageFinder ™
FREDERIC EDWIN SMITH married one of these people
Manassah Bailey, >>>>>Lucy Ann Porritt,<<<<< Grace Rhodes Brooksbank
District Dewsbury<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< District number - County Yorkshire Country England Volume 9B Volume as transcribed 9B Page number 895 Record set England & Wales Marriages 1837-2005
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ArgyllGran
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11 Oct 2018 22:35 |
For our reference:
Edward Smith in the 1871 England Census Name: Edward Smith Age: 18 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1853 Relation: Son Father's name: Edward Smith Mother's name: Sarah Smith Gender: Male Where born: West Hpool, Durham, England Civil Parish: Stranton Town: West Hartlepool County/Island: Durham Country: England Registration district: Hartlepool Sub-registration district: Hartlepool ED, institution, or vessel: 37 Household schedule number: 71 Piece: 4921 Folio: 37 Page Number: 17 Household Members: Name Age Edward Smith 59 Sarah Smith 55 Edward Smith 18 William Appleby 22
Edward Smith in the 1861 England Census Name: Edward Smith Age: 9 Estimated Birth Year: 1852 Relation: Son Father's name: Edward Smith Mother's name: Sarah Smith Gender: Male Where born: Sunderland, Durham, England Civil Parish: York All Saints North Street County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Registration district: York Sub-registration district: Micklegate ED, institution, or vessel: 1 Neighbors: Household schedule number: 279 Piece: 3547 Folio: 28 Page Number: 50 Household Members: Name Age Edward Smith 47 Sarah Smith 44 Margaret Smith 20 Edward Smith 9
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malyon
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11 Oct 2018 23:00 |
i have just found this death for a mary jane smith could she be the one married in 1873 aged 18
Deaths Mar 1877 (>99%) Smith Mary Jane 22 Hartlepool 10a 73
PORRITT, MARY JANE LAWSON Order GRO Reference: 1855 D Quarter in WHITBY Volume 09D Page 371
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ArgyllGran
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11 Oct 2018 23:23 |
I think the 1881 Robert Smith with mms Porritt posted earlier by Malyon is the son of this couple:
Marriages Mar 1877 (>99%) MIDDLETON Mary Hartlepool 10a 154 Smith George Hartlepool 10a 154
George Smith was Mary's second husband.
Marriages Jun 1865 (>99%) Middleton George Hartlepool 10a 225 Porritt Mary Hartlepool 10a 225
This is the family:
George Smith in the 1881 England Census Name: George Smith Age: 47 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1834 Relationship to Head: Head Spouse: Mary Smith Gender: Male Where born: New Porte, Yorkshire, England Civil Parish: Stranton County/Island: Durham Country: England Street address: 46 Morland St Marital Status: Married Occupation: Platelayer Registration district: Hartlepool ED, institution, or vessel: 39 Neighbors: Piece: 4911 Folio: 20 Page Number: 33 Household Members: Name Age George Smith 47 Mary Smith 34 Whilliam C. Smith 15 Lizabeth A. Smith 7 Robert Smith [4 months, on image] <<<<<<<<<<<< George Smith 9 Hannah Midleton 14 Sarah Midleton 8 Marget J. Midleton 5 Robert Porritt 69 - father-in-law John Porritt 30 - brother
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ArgyllGran
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11 Oct 2018 23:41 |
FamilySearch shows the marriage of Edward and Mary Jane, but on the GRO Index, Mary is called Margaret:
Margaret Jane Porritt in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Marriage Index, 1837-1915 Name: Margaret Jane Porritt Registration Year: 1873 Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar Registration district: Hartlepool Inferred County: Durham Volume: 10a Page: 214 Records on Page: Name Margaret Jane Porritt Edward Smith
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mgnv
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12 Oct 2018 17:28 |
1861 Census Piece: RG9/3704 Place: Hartlepool -Co. Durham Enumeration District: 33 Civil Parish: Stranton Ecclesiastical Parish: Stranton Folio: 71 Page: 26 Schedule: 128 Address: Stranton Village Surname First name(s) Rel Status Sex Age Occupation Where Born Remarks PORRITT Jonathan Head M M 42 Coal Trimmer Yorkshire - Kilton PORRITT Mary Wife M F 39 Co. Durham - Kelloe PORRITT Margaret Dau U F 13 Scholar Co. Durham - Haverton Hill PORRITT William Son U M 11 Scholar Co. Durham - Stranton PORRITT George Son - M 9 Scholar Co. Durham - Stranton PORRITT John Son - M 6 Scholar Co. Durham - Stranton PORRITT Mary Jane Dau - F 5 Co. Durham - Stranton PORRITT Jonathan Son - M 3 Co. Durham - Stranton PORRITT Ann Dau - F 1 Co. Durham - Stranton
1871 Census Piece: RG10/4919 Place: Hartlepool -Co. Durham Enumeration District: 28 Civil Parish: Stranton Ecclesiastical Parish: Christ Church Folio: 28 Page: 46 Schedule: 240 Address: 18 Stockton Street Surname First name(s) Rel Status Sex Age Occupation Where Born Remarks PORRITT Jonn Head M M 56 Coal Trimmer Yorkshire - Bilton PORRITT Mary Wife M F 50 Co. Durham - Kelloe PORRITT Wm Son U M 21 Grocer Co. Durham - Stranton PORRITT Geo Son U M 19 Engineer Co. Durham - Stranton PORRITT John Son U M 17 Labourer Docks Co. Durham - Stranton PORRITT Jonn Son - M 13 Scholar Co. Durham - Stranton PORRITT Joseph Son - M 8 Scholar Co. Durham - West Hartlepool PORRITT Mary J Dau - F 15 Co. Durham - Stranton PORRITT Margt E Dau - F 4 Co. Durham - West Hartlepool
Marriages Jun 1845 (>99%) Carter Jane Easington 24 124 Hood Margaret Easington 24 124 McMillan Joseph Easington 24 124 Perridge Jonathan Easington 24 124 RIDLEY Mary Easington 24 124 Smith Mary Easington 24 124 Stewart George Easington 24 124 Walsh Robert Easington 24 124
Using the local index to determine who wed whom https://gro.durham.gov.uk/ Marriage certificate for: Name: RIDLEY, Mary Year: 1845 Other index entries for this marriage: PARRIDGE, Jonathan
PERRATT, MARGARET ELIZABETH RIDLEY Order GRO Reference: 1845 S Quarter in EASINGTON Volume 24 Page 122
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-DZW3-3G7?i=503&wc=9K5M-T3D%3A13618101%2C28349502%2C28349503&cc=1309819 bp 15/7/1845 St Helen's Kelloe
https://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/31327 NZ3436 : St. Helen's Church Subject Location NZ 345 365 [100m precision]
PORRETT, MARGARET ELIZABETH 1 Order GRO Reference: 1846 D Quarter in STOCKTON AND SEDGEFIELD Volume 24 Page 214
PORRITT, MARGARET ELIZABETH RIDLEY Order GRO Reference: 1847 S Quarter in STOCKTON AND SEDGEFIELD Volume 24 Page 241
PORRITT, WILLIAM RIDLEY Order GRO Reference: 1849 D Quarter in STOCKTON AND SEDGEFIELD Volume 24 Page 241
PORRETT, GEORGE RIDLEY Order GRO Reference: 1851 J Quarter in STOCKTON Volume 24 Page 310
PORRIT, JOHN RIDLEY Order GRO Reference: 1853 J Quarter in STOCKTON Volume 10A Page 67
PORRETT, MARY JANE RIDLEY Order GRO Reference: 1855 J Quarter in STOCKTON Volume 10A Page 81
PORRITT, JONATHAN RIDLEY Order GRO Reference: 1857 D Quarter in STOCKTON Volume 10A Page 72
PORRITT, ANN RIDLEY Order GRO Reference: 1859 D Quarter in HARTLEPOOL Volume 10A Page 113 PORRITT, ANN 2 Order GRO Reference: 1862 M Quarter in HARTLEPOOL Volume 10A Page 78
PORRITT, JOSEPH RIDLEY Order GRO Reference: 1862 J Quarter in HARTLEPOOL Volume 10A Page 115
PORRITT, MARGARET ELIZABETH RIDLEY Order GRO Reference: 1866 D Quarter in HARTLEPOOL Volume 10A Page 150
Deaths Sep 1879 (>99%) Porritt Jonathan 64 Hartlepool 10a 70
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Marian
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13 Oct 2018 16:49 |
Thanks everyone. It's definitely Mary Jane who marries Edward. I can't find them anywhere so guess they have disappeared. Thank you all for looking.
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Marian
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11 Oct 2023 16:05 |
Hello
I have a few posts regarding Porritt (added way back when no one kept to one thread) so I've added this post to this thread because it mentions Jonathan Porritt, the head of the family. On FMP in the Index to Death Duty Registers 1796-1903, there is an entry for Jonathan dated 1881 (he died 1879). Could someone please take a look to see what the entry actually says as I don't know what information is on the registers. This is the only information I require. I have a copy of his Will. I don't need any other information for Jonathan only the above death duty register. Thank you very much.
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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11 Oct 2023 17:31 |
It’s for Jonathan) Porritt .late of west Hartlepool died 24th sept 1879 was proved by William Newark Pearson accountant and William Porritt of 21 Albion Street west Hartlepool foreman warehouseman the son and executors Personal estate £15
Jonathan County Durham Last name Porritt Volume 10A Sex Male Page 70 Birth year 1815 Country England Age 64 Record set England & Wales Deaths 1837-2007 Death quarter 3 Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Death year 1879 Subcategory Civil Deaths & Burials District Hartlepool
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ArgyllGran
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11 Oct 2023 17:40 |
That tells you exactly the same as his Probate record.
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Marian
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11 Oct 2023 18:18 |
Thank you Shirley and Argyll.
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