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Amended 1921 census James, Florence & Norah Fuller

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Marian

Marian Report 17 Aug 2021 20:45

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Hello, please can someone take a look at the register for William born 1869. He is at Howback House Public Assistance Institution, Hartlepool. The borough/district is West Hartlepool CB, Durham. Florence born 1879 is at 70 Durham Street, Hartlepool. Borough/district is Hartlepool MB, Durham. They are married but I would only like their details off the register. Thank you.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 17 Aug 2021 20:57

William J McSloy
in the 1939 England and Wales Register
Name: William J McSloy
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Married
Birth Date: 7 Oct 1869
Residence Year: 1939
Address: Howbeck House (Public Assistance Institution)
Residence Place: West Hartlepool, Durham, England
Occupation: Engineer - Turner Reti??
Line Number: 15
Schedule Number: 2
Sub Schedule Number: 74
OVSPI: Inmate
Enumeration District: FEBL
Borough: West Hartlepool
Registration district: 545/1
Household Members Age
This record is officially closed.
Lilian Turnbull 47
Edward Ward 26
Jane A Wilkinson 51
Elizabeth Waller 37
Frank O Low 39
Elsie M Low 40
Clarence R Jobbing 45
Elizabeth G Jobbing 42
This record is officially closed.



Florence Mc Sloy
in the 1939 England and Wales Register
Name: Florence Mc Sloy
Gender: Female
Marital Status: Married
Birth Date: 29 Apr 1879
Residence Year: 1939
Address: 70 Durham Street
Residence Place: Hartlepool, Durham, England
Occupation: Unpaid Domestic Duties
Line Number: 13
Schedule Number: 286
Sub Schedule Number: 1
Enumeration District: FFPC
Borough: Hartlepool
Registration district: 544-4
Household Members Age
Florence Mc Sloy 60
Aniss J Fuller 73 - 23/12 /1866, watchman. [Amos on image ]

Marian

Marian Report 17 Aug 2021 21:27

Thank you Argyll. I've just discovered their daughter's whereabouts (USA) which is very exciting and now collecting all the info, and why I've taken so long to come back to this thread. Thank you again. Sad that William is in the workhouse.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 18 Aug 2021 09:12

There are 14 pages of names (patients, staff, inmates, etc) on the original document for Howbeck House in 1939 - not just those in the transcription above.

William is listed as an "inmate"

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 18 Aug 2021 10:41

In 1939 Howbeck House was a hospital rather than a workhouse (although it had initially been a workhouse). My grandmother died there in 1931 and I was born there myself in 1948. Parts of it are still there today and it is part of Hartlepool General Hospital.

You can read about Howbeck House here:-

https://www.hhtandn.org/notes/1334/howbeck-house-the-workhouse

William's occupation says Engineer - Turner (retired). He died in 1942:-

First name(s) William J
District West Hartlepool
Last name McSloy
County Durham
Gender Male
Volume 10A
Birth day -
Page 125
Birth month -
Country England
Birth year 1867
Record set England & Wales Deaths 1837-2007
Age 75
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Death quarter 3
Subcategory Civil Deaths & Burials
Death year 1942
Collections from Great Britain, England

Kath. x

Marian

Marian Report 18 Aug 2021 11:01

Thank you also Kathleen.

alviegal

alviegal Report 18 Aug 2021 13:10

A wee snippit from a newspaper article.


A HAPPY CHRISTMAS AT HOWBECK. SEASONABLE FARE AND A CONCERT. The usual Christmas festivities were held yesterday at Howbeck. West Hartlepool and all spent a really happy time.
...............
The domino winners were Jas. Johnson and T. Appleton, and the quoits handicap winners were William McSloy and J. Grady.
The "piece-de-resistance" of the evening was the annual boxing match between J. Laverick and Anthony Bell.......
27 December 1932 - Hartlepool Northern Daily Mail - Hartlepool, Durham, England

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 18 Aug 2021 15:11

When I was a youngster (about 7 or 8) my sister was a nurse at Hartlepool General and they always had what they called a garden party in the summer - I'd call it a summer fayre these days. The nurses and doctors laid on all sorts of stalls and games with prizes. It was a popular event in the town.

The hospital and the people in it always seemed a happy place to me.

Not quite the same these days unfortunately.

Kath. x

Marian

Marian Report 20 Aug 2021 20:59

Hello, just seen the above Alvie, thank you, snippets like this brings them alive. :-)

Marian

Marian Report 29 Mar 2023 20:22

Hello, William and Florence's daughter Norah married Benjamin Spriggs and they emigrated to America and settled in Black Hawk/Waterloo, Iowa. I have all the US census including the 1950 - 421 Vine Street, Waterloo as follows - but mistranscribed as Norali S should be Norah Louisa -

Norali S Spriggs 50 born England separated janitoress working 40 hrs per week
Jean Douglas 25 born Iowa married telephone operator working 40 hrs per week

I cannot find Benjamin in 1950 but there is a death record for 3 October 1953 aged 56 at Independence, Buchanan, Iowa. Not sure if this is Benjamin.

Also, I cannot find a marriage for daughter Jean to Mr Douglas (born Florence Jean).

There is a US obituary notice for Norah Spriggs dated 1971 on FindMyPast and I wondered if anyone with a worldwide sub could take a look and let me know what it says. I don't need any other info apart from the above if possible.

Thank you

greyghost

greyghost Report 29 Mar 2023 22:48

Social Security Death Index
Iowa, United States

First name(s) Norah
Social Security number 481-20-2588
Last name Spriggs
Place of issue Iowa
Birth year 1899
State Iowa
Birth month Apr
Country United States
Birth day 25
Record set Social Security Death Index
Death year 1971
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Death month Nov
Subcategory Civil Deaths & Burials
Death day -
Collections from Americas, United States
About Social Security Death Index

greyghost

greyghost Report 29 Mar 2023 22:48

United States Obituary Notices
Waterloo, Iowa, United States

First name(s) Norah
State Iowa
Last name Spriggs
Country United States
Full name as given Norah Spriggs
Obituary text Norah was born on April 25, 1899 and passed away in November 1971.Norah was a resident of Waterloo, Iowa.
Birth year 1899
Source link View the Source Record
Birth date 25 Apr 1899
Record set United States Obituary Notices
Death year 1971
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Full dates April 25, 1899 - November 1971
Subcategory Civil Deaths & Burials
Place Waterloo, Iowa
Collections from Americas, United States
copyright www.tributes.com

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 30 Mar 2023 00:24

Miss Florence Jean Spriggs
in the U.S., Newspapers.comâ„¢ Marriage Index, 1800s-current
Name: Miss Florence Jean Spriggs
Gender: Female
Residence Date: Abt 1947
Residence Place: 127 Vine Street
Employer: Northwestern Bell Telephone Co.
Marriage Date: Jun 1947
Mother: Norah Spriggs
Spouse: Virgil E. Douglas


Mr. Virgil E. Douglas
in the U.S., Newspapers.comâ„¢ Marriage Index, 1800s-current
Name: Mr. Virgil E. Douglas
Gender: Male
Residence Date: Abt 1947
Residence Place: 127 Vine Street
Employer: Associated Manufacturers , Inc
Marriage Date: Jun 1947
Father: William Light
Mother: Light
Spouse: Florence Jean Spriggs


However, I don't know WHERE the marriage took place! Presumably Waterloo.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 30 Mar 2023 00:33

Possibly Virgil in 1950 ???

Virgil Douglas
in the 1950 United States Federal Census
Name: Virgil Douglas
Age: 25
Birth Date: abt 1925
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Missouri
Marital Status: Separated <<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Relation to Head of House: Lodger
Residence Date: 1950
Home in 1950: Morris, Texas, Missouri, USA
Street Name: Fowler Road South
Dwelling Number: 42
Farm: Yes
Questionnaire Number: o
Occupation: Farm Helper
Industry: Farm
Occupation Category: Working
Hours Worked: 40
Worker Class: Without Pay
Household Members (Name) Age Relationship
Arthur Boyer 41 Head
Elmyra Boyer 40 Wife
Elois Boyer 17 Daughter
Lotus June Boyer 14 Daughter
Lorna Boyer 13 Daughter
Arthur L Boyer 11 Son
Virgil Douglas 25 Lodger


Possible second marriage:

Virgil Eugene Douglas
in the Indiana, U.S., Marriages, 1810-2001
Name: Virgil Eugene Douglas
Gender: Male
Race: White
Age: 31
Event Type: Marriage Registration (Marriage)
Birth Date: 5 May 1924
Birth Place: Raymondville, Missouri
Marriage Date: 18 Oct 1955
Marriage Place: Indiana, United States
Residence Place: Eaton, Ohio
Spouse: Catherine Johnson
Page: 43


???
Virgil Eli Douglas
in the U.S., World War II Draft Cards Young Men, 1940-1947
Name: Virgil Eli Douglas
Gender: Male
Race: White
Age: 18
Relationship to Draftee: Self (Head)
Birth Date: 4 May 1924
Birth Place: Raymondville, Missouri, USA
Residence Place: Upton, Texas, Missouri, USA
Registration Date: 1 Jul 1942
Registration Place: Upton, Texas, Missouri, USA
Employer: Lee Coble
Height: 5 9
Weight: 155
Complexion: Dark
Hair Color: Brown
Eye Color: Brown
Next of Kin: Lee Coble
Household Members (Name) Age Relationship
Virgil Eli Douglas 18 Self (Head)

Marian

Marian Report 30 Mar 2023 08:14

Thank you greyghost and Argyll, much appreciated.

Marian

Marian Report 14 Jul 2023 16:26

Hello, could someone post the 1921 census for the above, they will be at Durham Street, Hartlepool. James (Amos) born 1870, Florence born 1879 and Norah born 1899. They are listed under Fuller but Florence should be McSloy and Norah should be Spriggs. Thank you.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 14 Jul 2023 16:34


1921 Census Of England & Wales
72, Durham Street, Hartlepool, Throston, Durham, England
James Fuller Boarder Male 1870 51 Cambridge, Cambridgeshire, England Painter J H Pounds Boat Builders
Norah Fuller Daughter Female 1899 22 Hartlepool, Durham, England Tailors Furnishers Hill Carter & Co Sailner & Furnishers
Florence Fuller Head Female 1879 42 Maidstone, Kent, England General Dealer Own Account

Corrections submitted to FMP

It beggars belief how appalling much of the transcribing is for the 1921 census

Marian

Marian Report 14 Jul 2023 16:40

Thank you for the above Erika, does the original show them as Fuller or their correct surnames?

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 14 Jul 2023 16:45

Correct...hence the submission to FMP ;-) ;-)

Marian

Marian Report 14 Jul 2023 16:48

Thank you again.