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A salior, 1919 - 1922 ish in Bidefortd North Devon or maybe in Carlisle.
I have a photo I believe he is my Grandfather, his son had the name James George Middleton Young, the Young is my Grandmothers maiden name.
Can anyone recognise this information.
My grandmother was born 1898 in Bideford North Devon.
She had two children a girl born 1920 in Cartlisle, and a son born in Bideford, both in the workhouses one in Carlisle 1920, and 1922 Bideford . I believe they had the same father.
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Diane
It is extremely unlikely that anyone connected would actually find your post.
Your dates seem a bit off, unless the 1920 ish sailor is the younger man.
Have a look at Search/ search all members trees to see if anyone has the in their tree.
Use freebmd to find all their births and possible marriages. Are they on the 1939 register?
Have a free search on the 1921 census on Find My Past, but you will have too pay for downloads.
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No birth on freebmd for James Young in Bideford
What was your grandmother’s name?
And her daughter’s forename? Was it Mabel?
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If your grandmother was Florence Mary, the free search suggests she was alone in 1921
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James George’s death registration shows his DoB to have been 1/6/1922
Birth registered as George J M**********************************************************
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I take it that you mean that the photograph dates from 1919-22?
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This is the only possible-sounding Middleton in Bideford in 1921;
James Joseph
Middleton
1900
Birthplace: London, England
Bideford
Bideford
Devon
NOTE: I am NOT saying he's your grandfather - just that he might be worth investigating further.
You'd have to pay to see the full details (occupation, crucially).
He's with Albert Wooldridge Lister 1884, Minnie Beatrice Lister 1883 (nee Hookham) , Betty Wooldridge Lister 1909, Derek Wooldridge Lister 1913, Frederick Wooldridge Lister 1920, and 11 others.
I think he's just a lodger or visitor . There's no obvious family relationship with the Listers or Hookhams - but I don't know who the other 11 people are.
Albert (born Staffordshire) and Minnie (born Kings Norton area) married in Kings Norton RD in 1906, were in South Africa (Transvaal) around 1909 when Betty was born, and were in Birmingham in 1911, when Albert was manager of a manufacturing stationer's business.
In 1920, at Frederick's baptism, Albert was a company director and they were living at 5 Park Mansions, Chapel Park Road, St Leonards-on-Sea, Hastings.
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Following up on that - just in case:
Birth:
MIDDLETON, JAMES JOSEPH mmn HARMAN
GRO Reference: 1900 J Quarter in POPLAR Volume 01C Page 657
James Middleton
in the 1911 England Census
Name: James Middleton
Age in 1911: 10
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1901
Relation to Head: Son
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Poplar, London, England
Civil Parish: West Ham
Country: England
Street Address: 22 Liddon Road, Plaistow, Essex
Occupation: School
Registration District Number: 188
Sub-registration District: Plaistow
ED, institution, or vessel: 40
Piece: 9450
Household Members:
Name Age
James J Middleton 61 - pensioned dock labourer
Mary Middleton 49
George Middleton 12
James Middleton 10
Mabel Leslie 4/12
Brother:
MIDDLETON, GEORGE LIONEL mmn HARMAN
GRO Reference: 1898 S Quarter in POPLAR Volume 01C Page 652
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James Joseph Middleton
in the Essex, England, Church of England Marriages, 1754-1937
Name: James Joseph Middleton
Gender: Male
Marriage Age: 34
Birth Date: abt 1900
Marriage Date: 15 Jul 1934
Marriage Place: Little Ilford, St Mary the Virgin, Essex, England
Father: James Joseph Middleton
Spouse: Daisy Mabel Middleton
James J Middleton
in the 1939 England and Wales Register
Name: James J Middleton
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Married
Birth Date: 5 Apr 1900
Residence Date: 1939
Address: 212
Residence Place: East Ham, Essex, England
Occupation: Tram Driver
Line Number: 41
Schedule Number: 196
Sub Schedule Number: 1
Enumeration District: Cacl
Borough: East Ham
Registration district: 188a-1
Inferred Spouse:
Daisy M Middleton
Household Members Age
James J Middleton 39
Daisy M Middleton 49
There are lots of WW1 service records for men named James Middleton - haven't worked through them all !
And there will be lots of others whose records haven't survived.
Of course, he may not have joined up until after the end of the war.
Or he may have been in the Merchant Navy - you don't say what sort of sailor he was.
Brother George:
George Lionel Middleton
in the UK, British Army World War I Service Records, 1914-1920
Name: George Lionel Middleton
Gender: Male
Enlistment Age: 18
Birth Date: abt 1898
Document Date: 1916
Residence Place: 22 Lidd?? Plaist?? [22 Liddon Road, Plaistow ]
Military Date: 1916
Relationship to Soldier: Self (Head)
Regimental Number: 34422
Other Regimental Numbers: 341122
Regiment Name: Royal Engineers
Number of Images: 40
Form Title: Short Service Attestation
Family Members:
Name Relation to Soldier
George Lionel Middleton Self (Head)
NOK: Mary Benns Mother
Mother's second marriage:
Marriages Mar 1915 (>99%)
Benns Edward Middleton W.Ham 4a 516
Middleton Mary Benns W.Ham 4a 516
James Joseph Middleton
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007
Name: James Joseph Middleton
Death Age: 75
Birth Date: 5 Apr 1900
Registration Date: Jul 1975[Aug 1975] [Sep 1975]
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration District: Southend on Sea
Inferred County: Essex
Volume: 9
Page: 2118
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Birth registration?
YOUNG, GEORGE JAMES MIDDLETON -
GRO Reference: 1922 J Quarter in BIDEFORD Volume 05B Page 718
So perhaps George James rather than James George?
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