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Matthew's family

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greyghost

greyghost Report 30 Aug 2022 16:23

Surname First name(s) Age District Vol Page
Deaths Mar 1892 (>99%)
Matthews Barbara 73 Holywell 11b 211

Not found William's death unless -

William and Barbara married in Bistre - there is this and as ages seem to vary in the family records .........

Flintshire Burials
Bistre, Flintshire, Wales

First name(s) William
Last name Mathews
Age 64
Birth year 1822
Burial year 1886
Burial date 26 Jun 1886
Place Bistre
Parish Bistre
County Flintshire
Country Wales
Page 210
Archive year range -
Record set Flintshire Burials
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Parish Burials
Collections from Wales, Great Britain

from the image - Abode - Bryncoch Mold

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First name(s) Barbara
Last name Matthews
County Flintshire
Age 73
Birth year 1819
Burial year 1892
Burial date 20 Jan 1892
Place Bistre
Parish Bistre
County Flintshire
Country Wales
Page 244
Archive year range -
Record set Flintshire Burials
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Parish Burials
Collections from Wales, Great Britain
Welsh Archive Services / Gwasanaethau Archifau Cymru

From image - Abode Bryn-Coch

greyghost

greyghost Report 30 Aug 2022 16:12

Barbara widowed by 1891 if correct family.
Her place of birth different and son John's age out

1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Bryncoch Glanrafon, Mold, Holywell, Flintshire, Wales

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Barbara Mathews Head Widow Female 73 1818 - Brymbo, Denbighshire, Wales
John Mathews Son Single Male 34 1857 Gas works laborer Flintshire, Wales
William J Mathews Grandson Single Male 15 1876 Slaters laborer Mold, Flintshire, Wales

greyghost

greyghost Report 30 Aug 2022 16:01

1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Bryncoch Cottage, Mold, Holywell, Flintshire, Wales

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
William Mathew Head Married Male 64 1817 - Mold, Flintshire, Wales
Barbra Mathew Wife Married Female 58 1823 - Mold, Flintshire, Wales
John Mathew Son Single Male 32 1849 Coal miner Mold, Flintshire, Wales
Henrietta Jones Grand daughter Single Female 11 1870 Schoolar Mold, Flintshire, Wales
John J Matthew Grand son Single Male 4 1877 Schoolar -

Marie

Marie Report 30 Aug 2022 15:59

Thank you so much for this you have been extremely helpful.

greyghost

greyghost Report 30 Aug 2022 15:44

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1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Wrexham Street, Mold, Holywell, Flintshire, Wales

First name(s) Last name Sex Age Birth year Birth place
Mathew Mathews Male 45 1796 Flintshire, Wales Coal Miner
Elizabeth Mathews Female 45 1796 Flintshire, Wales
Charlotte Mathews Female 15 1826 Flintshire, Wales
Edward Mathews Male 11 1830 Flintshire, Wales
Arabella Mathews Female 7 1834 Flintshire, Wales
Ann Jones Female 40 1801 Flintshire, Wales

greyghost

greyghost Report 30 Aug 2022 15:40

Use this free site to look for births with Mother's maiden name from Q3 1937 onwards
https://www.gro.gov.uk (freebmd only gives mmn from Q3 1911)

greyghost

greyghost Report 30 Aug 2022 15:37

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Flintshire Baptisms
Mold, Flintshire, Wales

First name(s) Barbara
Last name Jones
Birth year 1825
Birth date ? ? 1825
Baptism year 1825
Baptism date 06 Aug 1825
Place Mold
Father's first name(s) Edward
Mother's first name(s) Mary
Page 307
County Flintshire
Country Wales
Record set Flintshire Baptisms
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Parish Baptisms
Collections from Wales, Great Britain
Welsh Archive Services / Gwasanaethau Archifau Cymru
© Findmypast

greyghost

greyghost Report 30 Aug 2022 15:32

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Flintshire Baptisms
Mold, Flintshire, Wales

First name(s) William
Last name Matthews
Birth date ? ? 1820
Birth year 1820
Baptism year 1820
Baptism date 14 May 1820
Father's first name(s) Matthew
Father's last name Matthews
Mother's first name(s) Elizabeth
Place Mold
County Flintshire
Country Wales
Page 176
Record set Flintshire Baptisms
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Parish Baptisms
Collections from Wales, Great Britain
Welsh Archive Services / Gwasanaethau Archifau Cymru

no further info on image

greyghost

greyghost Report 30 Aug 2022 15:30

1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Wrexham Street, Mold, Holywell, Flintshire, Wales
First name(s) Last name Sex Age Birth year Birth place
William Mathews Male 20 1821 Flintshire, Wales Coal Miner
Barbara Mathews Female 20 1821 Flintshire, Wales

greyghost

greyghost Report 30 Aug 2022 15:27

1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Mynydd Isa, Argoed, Holywell, Flintshire, Wales

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
William Mathews Head Married Male 32 1819 Coalminer Mold, Flintshire, Wales
Barbara Mathews Wife Married Female 32 1819 - Mold, Flintshire, Wales
Edward Mathews Son - Male 4 1847 - Mold, Flintshire, Wales
Elizabeth Mathews Daughter - Female 1 1850 - -
Ann Jones - Unmarried Female 40 1811 Charwoman Mold, Flintshire, Wales

Name: Mother's Maiden Surname:
MATTHEWS, EDWARD JONES
GRO Reference: 1847 J Quarter in HOLYWELL Volume 27 Page 241

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1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Wrexham Street, Mold, Holywell, Flintshire, Wales

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
William Mathews Head Married Male 42 1819 Stage carrier Mold, Flintshire, Wales
Barbra Mathews Wife - Female 43 1818 - Mold, Flintshire, Wales
Edward Mathews Son - Male 13 1848 Scholar Mold, Flintshire, Wales
Elizabeth Mathews Daughter - Female 11 1850 Scholar Mold, Flintshire, Wales
John Mathews Son - Male 9 1852 Scholar Mold, Flintshire, Wales
Margaret Mathews Daughter - Female 6 1855 Scholar Mold, Flintshire, Wales
Mathew Mathews Son - Male 4 1857 Scholar Mold, Flintshire, Wales
Harriet Mathews Daughter - Female 2 1859 - Mold, Flintshire, Wales

greyghost

greyghost Report 30 Aug 2022 15:21

From OPRs - perpetuates the spelling of the surname as Mathews - one T only
First name(s) William
Last name Mathews
Age Minor
Father's first name(s) Mathew
Father's last name Mathews
Spouse's father's first name(s) Edward
Spouse's father's last name Jones
Birth year -
Marriage date 22 Jun 1840
Event year 1840
Marriage year 1840
Marriage place Bistre
Spouse's first name(s) Barbara
Spouse's last name Jones
Spouse's age Minor
County Flintshire
Country Wales
Event Marriage
Page 88
Record set Flintshire Marriages And Banns
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Parish Marriages
Collections from Wales, Great Britain

From image -
William working as a Collier, Father Matthew also a Collier
Barbara'sFather a ? Carrier
witnesses - John Savage and ? Jane Jones

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 30 Aug 2022 15:17

Birth records did not exist before July 1837

William’s father will be named on his marriage cert - if known to him
WHEN did he marry?

greyghost

greyghost Report 30 Aug 2022 15:16

Is this their marriage? - much earlier than John's birth

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Marriages Jun 1840 (>99%)
DAVIES Enoch Holywell 27 346
DAVIES Margaret Holywell 27 346
EDWARDS Thomas Holywell 27 346
ELLIS Elizabeth Holywell 27 346
HUGHES James Holywell 27 346
JONES Barbara Holywell 27 346
JONES Mary Holywell 27 346
MATHEWS William Holywell 27 346

greyghost

greyghost Report 30 Aug 2022 15:12

For our info - always helps if you post a relevant census etc.

The birth years of William and Barbara are out from those you mentioned on this census

1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Wrexham Street, Mold, Holywell, Flintshire, Wales

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
William Mathews Head - Male 50 1821 - Flintshire, Wales
Barbara Mathews Wife - Female 52 1819 - Flintshire, Wales
John Mathews Son - Male 19 1852 - Flintshire, Wales
Mathew Mathews Son - Male 14 1857 - Flintshire, Wales
Harriett Mathews Daughter - Female 12 1859 - Flintshire, Wales
Female
Transcript of Barbara's record

nameslessone

nameslessone Report 30 Aug 2022 15:03

It is highly unlikely that anyone currently researching this family will find your thread.
John Matthews is on FreeBMD with the registration area as Holywell. I’ve not looked for the others.

Finding his parents births may well be more difficult as not all Chapel records were retained. Many were destroyed.

Edit
The family are on a numbers of trees on Ancestry, some of which give a full date of birth in 1820 for William

Marie

Marie Report 30 Aug 2022 14:36

I'm looking for a bit of help please.
Trying to find info on a William Matthews b.1817 Mold, Flintshire. He married Barbara Jones b. 1823 Mold
I've managed to find them on the 1861/71/81 censuses, but that about it.

Their son John Matthews b.1852 Mold married Ellen Hughes b. 1864 Llanrhaiadr, Denbighshire and married 1892 in Flintshire.

Then their son Edward William Matthews b. 1898 Mold married Hannah Margaret Evans b. 1897 Neston.

Apart from the 3 censuses, I cannot find them anywhere else, or birth records.
Is anyone searching this family?
Any help would be most appreciated, thank you.