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Frederick jones Macclesfield and Lancashire

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Shirley

Shirley Report 30 Oct 2022 00:35

Trying to find info on a vicar Frederick Jones who was vicar of St Matthews in Burnley from 1923 until 1945. Previously he had been vicar or curate at Bosley St Mary's in Macclesfield. I have no Idea of his date of birth or death as yet. Can anyone help? :-) :-) :-)

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 30 Oct 2022 11:35

There is this one in Burnley in the 1939 register:-

1939 Register
Parkfield Fern Road, Burnley, Burnley C.B., Lancashire, England

Frederick Jones 28 Jan 1881 Male Clerk In Holy Orders Married 17 1
Annie E Jones 13 Oct 1883 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 17 2

First name(s) Frederick
County Lancashire
Last name(s) Jones
Country England
Birth date 28 Jan 1881 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
E. D. letter code NFNK
Birth day 28
Schedule 17
Birth month 1
Schedule sub number 1
Birth year 1881
Archive reference RG101/4309C/002/12
Sex Male
Piece number 4309C
Marital status Married
Item number 2
Occupation Clerk In Holy Orders <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Line number 12
Address Parkfield Fern Road, Burnley
Category Census, land & surveys
Place Burnley C.B.
Subcategory Census
Borough / district Burnley C.B.
Collections from Great Britain, England

Kath. x

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 30 Oct 2022 11:52

There is a history of St. Matthew's Church here:-

https://media.acny.uk/media/venues/page/attachment/2021/11/Parish_History_Page.pdf

Rev. Frederick Jones is mentioned from page 4 of the document.

Kath. x

Maddie

Maddie Report 30 Oct 2022 12:47

??????
Frederick
Spouse's birth year 1884
Last name Jones
Spouse's marital status Spinster
Age 28
Spouse's residence Ashwyn Edge Lane
Birth year 1881
Spouse's father's first name(s) Christopher
Occupation Science demonstrator
Spouse's father's last name Battersby
Marital status Bachelor
Spouse's father's occupation Managing Clerk
Year 1909
Witness 1 Henry Gibbs
Marriage year 1909
Witness 2 Lillin Battersby
Marriage date 07 Jul 1909
County Lancashire
Place Edge Hill, St Cyprian
Country England
Denomination Church Of England
Archive Liverpool Record Office
Diocese Liverpool
Archive reference 283-CYP-3-4
Residence 93 Holt Road
Register type Marriages
Father's first name(s) William
Register year range 1906-1913
Father's last name Jones
Record set Lancashire Banns & Marriages
Father's occupation Optician,Deceased
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Spouse's first name(s) Annie Ellen
Subcategory Parish Marriages
Spouse's last name Battersby
Collections from England, Great Britain
Spouse's age 25

Annie Ellen
Country England
Last name Battersby
Father's first name(s) Christopher
Gender Female
Father's last name Battersby
Birth year -
Mother's first name(s) Margaret Ann
Birth place -
Mother's last name -
Baptism year 1884
Record set England Births & Baptisms 1538-1975
Baptism date 21 Feb 1884
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Place Everton
Subcategory Parish Baptisms
County Lancashire

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 30 Oct 2022 12:49

According to Google Maps, Fern Road is only 0.3 miles from St Matthews Church.


Ancestry suggests that this could be the marriage of that 1939 couple;

Frederick Jones
in the Liverpool, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1754-1935
Name: Frederick Jones
Gender: Male
Marriage Age: 28
Event Type: Marriage
Birth Year: abt 1881
Marriage Date: 7 Jul 1909
Marriage Place: Edge Hill, St Cyprian, Lancashire, England
Father: William Jones
Spouse: Annie Ellen Battersby


That Frederick is a science demonstrator.
In 1911 he's a science teacher (Bachelor of Science).

But perhaps he became a "Clerk in holy orders' later.

Their ages in 1911 fit with those in 1939.

Frederick Jones
in the 1911 England Census
Name: Frederick Jones
Age in 1911: 30
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1881
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Everton, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Liscard
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England
Street Address: 20 Liscard Grove Wallasey Rd Wallasey Cheshire
Marital status: Married
Occupation: Teacher Science Teshnical
Registration District Number: 452
Sub-registration District: Wallasey
ED, institution, or vessel: 24
Piece: 22076
Household Members:
Name Age
Frederick Jones 30
Annie Ellen Jones 27
Francis Jones 18 - brother


BATTERSBY, ANNIE ELLEN mmn ROBERTS
GRO Reference: 1883 D Quarter in WEST DERBY Volume 08B Page 553

However, so far I don't see a good match for them in 1921.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 30 Oct 2022 12:53

Following up on that family, just in case:

Francis Jones
in the 1901 England Census
Name: Francis Jones
Age: 8
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1893
Relation to Head: Son
Gender: Male
Father: William Jones
Birth Place: Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Civil parish: Liverpool
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Ecclesiastical parish: St Albans
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Registration district: Liverpool
Sub-registration district: St Martin
ED, institution, or vessel: 21
Neighbors:
Piece: 3410
Folio: 113
Page number: 13
Household schedule number: 81

Listed with father William 49 (widower) , and siblings Frederick 20 undergraduate at (something) College Liverpool, John 18, Eleanor 15, William 12, and Frances E 10

Frederick Jones
in the 1891 England Census
Name: Frederick Jones
Gender: Male
Age: 10
Relationship: Son
Birth Year: 1881
Father:
William Jones
Mother:
Elizabeth A Jones
Birth Place: Liverpool
Civil parish: Kirkdale
Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch
Residence Place: Kirkdale, Lancashire, England
Registration district: West Derby
Sub registration district: Kirkdale
ED, Institution or Vessel: 1
Neighbors:
Piece: 2958
Folio: 10
Household Members (Name) Age Relationship
William Jones 39 Head
Elizabeth A Jones 36 Wife
Frederick Jones 10 Son
John Jones 8 Son
Eleanor Jones 5 Daughter
William Jones 2 Son
Frances E Jones 2/12 Daughter
John Halliwell 21 Brother-in-law
Thomas Conolly 35 Visitor



Marriages Dec 1875 (>99%)
HALLIWELL Elizabeth Ann W. Derby 8b 665
Jones William W. Derby 8b 665

Shirley

Shirley Report 30 Oct 2022 13:36

hi. Yes I think you are definately correct with this being our Frederick Jones because in newspapers he was mentioned as having a Bsc. So it looks like he was born on Merseyside or Everton to be precise. Thankyou so much for all the detail. Appreciated.
regards
Shirley :-)

Shirley

Shirley Report 30 Oct 2022 13:39

it did also say in the newspaper that he was to reside at Park field which is just up from the church, closer to Scott park.
so we have the correct chap thanks :-)

Maddie

Maddie Report 30 Oct 2022 13:39

Name: William Jones
Gender: Male
Marriage Age: 23
Event Type: Marriage
Birth Year: abt 1852
Marriage Date: 23 Dec 1875
Marriage Place: Kensington, Christ Church, Lancashire, England
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Father:
John Jones a ships carpenter -------
Spouse:
Elizabeth Ann Halliwell

an optician

1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Queen Street, St Bees, Whitehaven, Cumberland, England
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Household members (7 people)
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
John Jones Head
Married Male 40 1821 Shipwrights journeyman Whitehaven, Cumberland, England
Hannah Jones Wife
Married Female 37 1824 - Lamplugh, Cumberland, England
Francis Jones Son
- Male 10 1851 Scholar Whitehaven, Cumberland, England
William Jones Son
- Male 9 1852 Scholar Whitehaven, Cumberland, England
Hannah Jones Daughter
- Female 0 1861 - Whitehaven, Cumberland, England
Thomas Jones Brother
Unmarried Male 32 1829 Mariner merchant service Whitehaven, Cumberla

Shirley

Shirley Report 15 Nov 2022 23:17

Thankyou so much for all this information ?????? :-)