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William Jones born Abt 1798 at Bedwellty, Wales

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Ellen

Ellen Report 10 Nov 2022 11:30

I am trying to find the parents of my William Jones born Abt 1798 in Bedwellty Monmouthshire in Wales died 1866

He married a Sarah Thomson/Thompson 26th December 1834 at Bedwellty , she was born 1799 died 24/5/1887

They had children John abt 1833,, William Henry Abt 1834, Edmond Abt 1835, Thomas Abt 1839, David Abt 1845,
Thank you for any help Ellen

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 10 Nov 2022 11:38

Where have you looked?

Is this his death?

Name: William Jones
Age: 68
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1798
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
Death Registration Place: Bedwellty, Monmouthshire, United Kingdom
Death Date: Mar 1866
Volume: 11a
Page: 71

nameslessone

nameslessone Report 10 Nov 2022 11:45

Jones is one of those nightmare names to research.

Not all church registers survived in Wales, especially Chapel records.

Added: none of the trees on Ancestry have his parents either. So it looks like it may be impossible, unless the trees are all copied and no one did the research.

Have you tried contacting the Monmouthshire FHS for help?

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 10 Nov 2022 11:52

Please C&P any census records you have found for the family

nameslessone

nameslessone Report 10 Nov 2022 11:55

Genuki for Bedwellty suggests there are a large number of churches/ chapels for the area.
Coverage dates are given for some of them.

Why ask for all the census data when Ellen is asking about a birth in 1798?

Maddie

Maddie Report 10 Nov 2022 12:18

1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Maesrudud Leen, Bedwellty, Abergavenny, Monmouthshire, Wales
View original record
Household members (6 people)
First name(s) Last name Sex Age Birth year Birth place
Edward Jones Male 45 1796 Monmouthshire, Wales
William Jones Male 40 1801 Monmouthshire, Wales
Sarah Jones Female 35 1806 Monmouthshire, Wales
William Jones Male 7 1834 Monmouthshire, Wales
Edmund Jones Male 5 1836 Monmouthshire, Wales
Thomas Jones Male 1 1840 Monmouthshire, Wales

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 10 Nov 2022 12:25

Thanks, Maddie

Suggests that William may have had a brother Edward
Helps with narrowing-down possibilities for such common names

Maddie

Maddie Report 10 Nov 2022 12:25

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William
Groom's occupation Labourer
Last name Jones
Bride's parish Bedwellty Parish
Birth year -
Groom's parish Bedwellty Parish
Marriage year 1834
1st witness William Daniel
Marriage day 26
2nd witness Anne Thomas
Marriage month Dec
Parish Bedwellty
Place Bedwellty
Church St Sannan
Bride's first name(s) Sarah
County Monmouthshire
Bride's last name Thomas
Country Wales
Groom's first name(s) William
Record set Gwent Fhs Marriages - Blackwood Branch
Groom's last name Jones
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Bride's marital status Spinster
Subcategory Parish Marriages
Groom's marital status Bachelor

Maddie

Maddie Report 10 Nov 2022 12:29

st sannan bapt ???

William
Abode Bedwellty
Last name Jones
Notes Was born 7th June
Country Wales
Year 1808
Record set Gwent Fhs Baptisms - Blackwood Branch
Church St Sannan
County Monmouthshire
Minister Position -
Year 1808
Parents Occupation -
Parents Name William
Relationship Son
First Names William
Day -
Month -
Record Source Bedwellty Baptisms 1750 - 1903
Year Of Birth 1808
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Parish Bedwellty
Subcategory Parish Baptisms
Place Bedwellty

Maddie

Maddie Report 10 Nov 2022 13:02

is this the death you found

Name: William Jones
Age: 66
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1800
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Death Registration Place: Bedwellty, Monmouthshire, United Kingdom
Death Date: Sep 1866
Inferred Death Place: Monmouthshire, United Kingdom
Volume: 11a
Page: 39

Maddie

Maddie Report 10 Nov 2022 13:07

1851
Name William Jones
Age 50
Estimated Birth Year 1801
Relation Head
Spouse's Name Sarah Jones
Gender Male
Where born Bedwas, Monmouthshire, Wales
Civil Parish or Township Gelligaer
County/Island Glamorgan
Country Wales
Registration district Merthyr Tydfil
Sub-registration district Gelligaer
ED, institution, or vessel 3b
Piece 2457
Folio 233
Page number 60
Household schedule number 234
Household membersName Age
William Jones 50
Sarah Jones 48
Edmund Jones 14
Thomas Jones 11
David Jones 8

1861
Name Wm Jones
Age 63
Estimated Birth Year 1798
Relation Head
Spouse's Name Sarah Jones
Gender Male
Where born Bedwellty, Monmouthshire, Wales
Civil Parish or Township Gelligaer
County/Island Glamorgan
Country Wales
Registration district Merthyr Tydfil
Sub-registration district Gelligaer
ED, institution, or vessel 3
Household schedule number 10
Neighbors View others on page
Piece 4045
Folio 48
Page number 2
Household membersName Age
Wm Jones 63
Sarah Jones 58
John Jones 28
Edmund Jones 24
Thomas D Jenker 23
David Jones 17


birth dates do vary

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 10 Nov 2022 13:18

As there are two deaths for the name in 1866, we need to know if the OP has the cert for the one she says is the right man.

Ellen

Ellen Report 11 Nov 2022 00:11

Thank you Maddie for 1841 census,I have the 1851/ 1861 ones also for telling me Sarah's maiden name, yes that is the death I found. Interesting he may have had a brother Edward, I will look at little more on him.
It is a very common name to research, I haven't looked into contacting the Monmouthshire FHS I will give it a try Thanks again for all of your help everyone it is very much appreciated Ellen

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 11 Nov 2022 09:58

There were TWO deaths for the name in the district in 1866 . Which one are you claiming as your relative?

Kuros

Kuros Report 11 Nov 2022 17:21

It's worth noting that Bedwellty was not an actual place but a district comprising many towns and villages and covered a very large area.

Annie