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Maud(e) Alexandra Elsegood b. 1884/1885

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Kay????

Kay???? Report 11 Nov 2022 21:16

Summary Book.1911.

Name: Elsegood Miss
Number of Males: 1
Number of Females: 1
Household schedule number: 139
Street Address: 20 Deloraine Street
Civil parish: St Paul Deptford
Ecclesiastical parish: Deptford St John
County/Island: London
Country: England
Residence Year: 1911
Registration district: Greenwich
Registration District Number: 28
Sub-registration district: Deptford South
Sub-Registration District Number: 3
ED, institution, or vessel: 23
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece.

Ther are no other details attached to the name,only its a private house.



Also this,,,

Detail Source
Name: Elsegood Mr
Number of Males: 2
Number of Females: 2
Household schedule number: 240
Street Address: 51 Gibbon Road
Civil parish: St Paul Deptford
Ecclesiastical parish: Peckham St Mary Magdalene
County/Island: London
Country: England
Residence Year: 1911.

Same area Mr Elsegood listed as a Shop.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 11 Nov 2022 20:02

Is it realistic to think that a man would have two daughters named Maud? Especially as the one born in 1875 was very much alive..............

Name: Miss Maud L Elsgood
Gender: Female
Departure Age: 23
Birth Date: abt 1875
Departure Date: 10 Dec 1898
Departure Port: England
Ship Name: St Paul

James had two brothers and two sisters at least (1861 census)

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 11 Nov 2022 19:54

Re: the birth suggested by Kay

That child is on censuses with her parents

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 11 Nov 2022 19:43

The 1895 baptism shows James Elsegood's occupation as 'Tradesman'
A 10-year-old would hardly be described as 'adult'

Address is 41, Brannah Road

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 11 Nov 2022 19:09

You have found birth dates of 1884 and 1885 in school records - but the censuses say 1882 and 1883.

Kay????

Kay???? Report 11 Nov 2022 18:39

?

Births Mar 1885 (>99%)

Haylock Maude Alexandra W. Ham 4a 240

MMN---Rawlings.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 11 Nov 2022 18:34

In the margin of the baptism record image, it says "Adult".

In 1891 your Maud is Maud E, not Maud A.
Maybe the enumerator's mistake - but are you sure this is the "adult" baptised in 1895?

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 11 Nov 2022 18:11

Maude's baptism, for location:

Maude Alexandra Elsegood
in the London, England, Church of England Births and Baptisms, 1813-1923
Name: Maude Alexandra Elsegood
Gender: Female
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 13 Apr 1895
Baptism Place: St John the Divine, Kennington, Lambeth, England
Father: James Elsegood
Mother: Mary Ann Elsegood
Register Type: Parish Register


And censuses for our reference:

Maude E Elregood
in the 1901 England Census
Name: Maude E Elregood [Elsegood]
Age: 19
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1882
Relation to Head: Niece
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Bagswater, London, England
Civil parish: Lambeth
Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch North Brixton
County/Island: London
Country: England
Registration district: Lambeth
Sub-registration district: Kennington Second
ED, institution, or vessel: 20
Neighbors:
Piece: 422
Folio: 74
Page number: 29
Household schedule number: 236

[ With George R Shear, 39, Islington, and Ruth R Shear, 33, Lambeth.]



Maud Elsegood
in the 1891 England Census
Name: Maud Elsegood
Gender: Female
Age: 8
Relationship: Granddaughter
Birth Year: 1883
Birth Place: Shepherds Bush, London, England
Civil parish: Camberwell
Ecclesiastical parish: St Jude
Residence Place: Peckham, Camberwell, London, England
Registration district: Camberwell
Sub registration district: Peckham
ED, Institution or Vessel: 38
Neighbors:
Piece: 481
Folio: 62
Household Members (Name) Age Relationship
James Elsegood 69 Head
Catharine Elsegood 69 Wife
Stanley Elsegood 13 Grandson
Maud Elsegood 8 Granddaughter

SuffolkVera

SuffolkVera Report 11 Nov 2022 16:56

I'd be grateful if anyone can help me sort out what happened to Maud after 1901. It is a strange one as I know who her father is but I have no idea of her mother.

Her father is James Elsegood (1847-1924). He was something of a ladies' man having 3 wives and 1 or 2 liaisons that we know about. First wife was Mary Ann Willetts. They had 5 children, including one named Maud Lilian (1875-1900). Mary died in 1878 and in 1880 he married Hannah Still. As far as I know there were no children and she died in 1881.

In 1882 James fathered a child, Sidney, with Hannah's sister Olive Still. Sidney was registered as Elsegood and his birth cert. shows mother as Olive Elsegood (formerly Still); however, they were not married.

The next child born appears to be Maud(e) Alexandra. I can find no birth registration but I have 3 possible dates from school records - 12 March 1884 or 10th or 15th Feb 1885. and a birth in Shepherd's Bush or Bayswater (from censuses). It is possible that Olive Still was Maud's mother as well as Sidney's but, if that were the case, I would expect her to have been properly registered as Sidney was. The other explanation is that James was with yet another lady who was the mother of Maud but I have no indication of what her name might be.

Olive Still died in 1888 and in 1891 James married Fanny Willoughby with whom he had 2 further daughters.

In 1891 Maud is with her paternal grandparents James and Catherine Elsegood. She was baptised 13 April 1895 when her parents are given as James Elsegood and Mary Ann. Mary Ann may be the Christian name of her real mother or may be completely made up. The address given is the home of her paternal aunt and her husband i.e. Ruth and George Shear. Maud is certainly living with them in 1901and she is a draper's assistant.

After 1901 she just disappears. I haven't found a marriage or death nor does she seem to be in the 1911 census. I wonder if she decided to take on her mother's name in which case I may never find her.

I'm sorry this is a bit long but thought you needed to know the background. If anyone can see whether they can trace her after 1901 or can give me any further advice I would be very grateful.

I have to do something else now but will try to get back later tonight or in the morning.