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2 x Ellen Hunt both born 1852

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Doreen

Doreen Report 9 Feb 2023 18:59

Hope you can help to clarify with 2 mix up Ellen Hunt both born to 2 different Hunt parents.

No 1) Ellen Hunt b. 1852 in Stonesfield, Oxford to her parents James Hunt b. 1819 and Sarah Hounslow from Stonesfield, Oxford

No 2) Ellen Hunt b. 1852 in Hanborough, Oxford to her parents Esau Hunt and Anne Treadwell

I wonder who and which one they were married to?

Would be an appreciate if you reply with answer

alviegal

alviegal Report 9 Feb 2023 19:34

For our info

1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Riding Lane, Stonesfield, Woodstock, Oxfordshire, England

Household members (6 people)
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
James Hunt Head
Married Male 62 1819 Slate merchants 15 acres 3 men Stonesfield, Oxfordshire, England
Sarah Hunt Wife
Married Female 58 1823 - Stonesfield, Oxfordshire, England
Ellen Hunt Daughter
Single Female 28 1853 Dressmaker Stonesfield, Oxfordshire, England
Joseph Hunt Son
Single Male 22 1859 Blacksmith Stonesfield, Oxfordshire, England
Emily Hunt Daughter
Single Female 16 1865 Dressmaker Stonesfield, Oxfordshire, England
Henry Hunt Nephew
Single Male 12 1869 Farm boy Stonesfield, Oxfordshire, England


and

1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Old Yard, Handborough, Witney, Oxfordshire, England

Household members (5 people)
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Esau Hunt Head
- Male 45 1826 labourer (railways) - Oxfordshire, England
Ann Hunt Wife
- Female 44 1827 - Oxfordshire, England
Ellen Hunt Daughter
- Female 19 1852 - Oxfordshire, England
Alice Hunt Daughter
- Female 6 1865 - Oxfordshire, England
Sarah Hunt Daughter
- Female 2 1869 - Oxfordshire, England


Ellen is not with the family in 1881.

alviegal

alviegal Report 9 Feb 2023 19:42

1921 for Ellen from Handborough.

1921 Census Of England & Wales
The Crook, Stonesfield, Oxfordshire, England
1921 census badge

Household members (5 people)
First name(s) Last name Relationship to head Sex Birth year Age in years Birth place Occupation Employer
George Hopkins Head
Male 1849 72 Oxfordshire, England General Farm Labourer -
Ellen Hopkins Wife
Female 1851 70 Hanborough, Oxfordshire, England House Hold Duties -
Sarah Alice Hopkins Daughter
Female 1891 30 Stonesfield, Oxfordshire, England Gloveress Atherton & Clothier Gloss Maker Woodstock
Hilda May Hopkins Granddaughter
Female 1910 11 Stonesfield, Oxfordshire, England - -
Margaret H Hopkins Granddaughter
Female 1916 5 Woodstock, Oxfordshire, England - -


First name(s) Ellen
Country England
Last name Hunt
Volume 3A
Marriage quarter 4
Volume as transcribed 3A
Marriage year 1878
Page number 1228
Registration month -
Record set England & Wales Marriages 1837-2005
MarriageFinder™ Ellen Hunt married one of these people
George Hopkins, Augustus Oliver
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
District Woodstock
Subcategory Civil Marriage & Divorce

Doreen

Doreen Report 9 Feb 2023 19:48

Thank you for infos.

Just wondering if both Ellen Hunt b. 1852 to both different parents were relations?

alviegal

alviegal Report 9 Feb 2023 19:49

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First name(s) Ellen
Country England
Last name Hunt
Volume 3A
Marriage quarter 2
Volume as transcribed 3A
Marriage year 1884
Page number 1149
Registration month -
Record set England & Wales Marriages 1837-2005
MarriageFinder™ Ellen Hunt married one of these people
Thomas Harper, George John Freeman
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
District Woodstock
Subcategory Civil Marriage & Divorce


1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Purley Hall Garden, Whitchurch, Bradfield, Oxfordshire, England
View original record
Household members (6 people)
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Thomas Harper Head
Married Male 37 1854 Agricultural labourer Stonesfield, Oxfordshire, England
Ellen Harper Wife
Married Female 38 1853 - Stonesfield, Oxfordshire, England
Thomas H Harper Son
Single Male 5 1886 - Stonesfield, Oxfordshire, England
E J Harper Son
Single Male 4 1887 - Stonesfield, Oxfordshire, England
J E Harper Son
Single Female 2 1889 - Stonesfield, Oxfordshire, England
E S Harper - - Female 0 1891 - Stonesfield, Oxfordshire, England


1921 Census Of England & Wales
High Street, Pangbourne, Berkshire, England
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View original record
Household members (7 people)
First name(s) Last name Relationship to head Sex Birth year Age in years Birth place Occupation Employer
Thomas Harper Head
Male 1854 67 Stonesfield, Oxfordshire, England Dairyman & Grocer Own Account
Ellen Harper Wife
Female 1852 68 Stonesfield, Oxfordshire, England Household Duties -
James Harper Son
Male 1888 32 Stonesfield, Oxfordshire, England Assisting Father In General Work -
Ellen Harper Daughter
Female 1890 31 Stonesfield, Oxfordshire, England Household Duties -
Elizabeth Harper Daughter
Female 1892 29 Sulham, Berkshire, England Shop Assistant -
Eva Harper Daughter
Female 1894 27 Pangbourne, Berkshire, England Dressmaker -
Louisa Harper Daughter
Female 1895 26 Pangbourne, Berkshire, England Home Duties -

Doreen

Doreen Report 9 Feb 2023 19:54

I'm trying to work out whether if James b.1819 from Stonesfield and Esua b. 1826 from Hanborough were relation?

alviegal

alviegal Report 9 Feb 2023 20:04

Esau's mother was Rebecca and father was George, a labourer.

1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Pug Lane, Long Handborough, Witney, Oxfordshire, England
View original record
Household members (3 people)
First name(s) Last name Sex Age Birth year Birth place
Rebecca Hunt Female 50 1791 Oxfordshire, England
Mark Hunt Male 20 1821 Oxfordshire, England
Esau Hunt Male 16 1825 Oxfordshire, England


Name: Esau Hunt
Baptism Date: 2 Oct 1825
Baptism Place: Hanborough, Oxfordshire, England
Parish as it Appears: Handborough
Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Map:
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Father:
George Hunt
Mother:
Rebecca Hunt

alviegal

alviegal Report 9 Feb 2023 20:49

Baptisms of children of George and Rebecca.


Sarah Hunt
Baptism
23 Jun 1811 Hanborough, Oxfordshire, England

Jane Hunt
Baptism
17 Oct 1813 Hanborough, Oxfordshire, England


George Hunt
Baptism
10 Mar 1816 Hanborough, Oxfordshire, England

Stephen Hunt
Baptism
8 Mar 1818 Hanborough, Oxfordshire, England


Mark Hunt
Baptism
14 Feb 1819 Hanborough, Oxfordshire, England

William Hunt
Baptism
26 May 1822 Hanborough, Oxfordshire, England

Esau Hunt
Baptism
2 Oct 1825 Hanborough, Oxfordshire, England

Ann Hunt
Baptism
2 Aug 1829 Hanborough, Oxfordshire, England

Doreen

Doreen Report 9 Feb 2023 23:33

Ellen Hunt b.1952 could married one of these people
Thomas Harper or George John Freeman?

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 10 Feb 2023 09:55

Presume you mean 1852?

When was the marriage - and where?

Have you done anything about looking for children? The GRO website has MMN.

Look for info on the census immediately following the marriage

How did you work back to Ellen Hunt without knowing who she married?

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 10 Feb 2023 10:21

1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Purley Hall Garden, Whitchurch, Bradfield, Oxfordshire, England

Thomas Harper Head Married Male 37 1854 Agricultural labourer Stonesfield, Oxfordshire, England
Ellen Harper Wife Married Female 38 1853 - Stonesfield, Oxfordshire, England
Thomas H Harper Son Single Male 5 1886 - Stonesfield, Oxfordshire, England
E J Harper Son Single Male 4 1887 - Stonesfield, Oxfordshire, England
J E Harper Son Single Female 2 1889 - Stonesfield, Oxfordshire, England
E S Harper - - Female 0 1891 - Stonesfield, Oxfordshire, England

HARPER, THOMAS HUNT HUNT
GRO Reference: 1885 S Quarter in WOODSTOCK Volume 03A Page 799
HARPER, EDMUND JAMES HUNT
GRO Reference: 1887 M Quarter in WOODSTOCK Volume 03A Page 827
HARPER, JAMES EDMUND HUNT
GRO Reference: 1890 J Quarter in WOODSTOCK Volume 03A Page 832
HARPER, ELLEN SARAH HUNT
GRO Reference: 1888 D Quarter in WOODSTOCK Volume 03A Page 822

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 10 Feb 2023 10:22

Looking back, rather belatedly, I see that alviegal gave you the 1891 census at 19.49 yesterday, so why have you asked again for info about who the woman married?

Doreen

Doreen Report 10 Feb 2023 15:45

My friend and I got both same Ellen Hunt b. 1952 as we got confused about related or not. But we got different parents names as above

Mine Ellen Hunt b. 1852 in Stonesfield Her parents James hunt and Sarah Hounslow

My friend’s Ellen Hunt b. 1852 in Long Hanborough Her parents Esua Hunt and Ann

We talked whether we are relation as 3rd cousin removed. I presume not

Doreen

Doreen Report 10 Feb 2023 15:45

My friend and I got both same Ellen Hunt b. 1952 as we got confused about related or not. But we got different parents names as above

Mine Ellen Hunt b. 1852 in Stonesfield Her parents James hunt and Sarah Hounslow

My friend’s Ellen Hunt b. 1852 in Long Hanborough Her parents Esua Hunt and Ann

We talked whether we are relation as 3rd cousin removed. I presume not

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 10 Feb 2023 15:51

HUNT, ELLEN HOWNSLOW
GRO Reference: 1852 S Quarter in WOODSTOCK UNION Volume 03A Page 524

HUNT, ELLEN TREDWELL
GRO Reference: 1851 J Quarter in WITNEY UNION Volume 16 Page 135

The name is not at all uncommon.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 10 Feb 2023 16:16

From a tree on Ancestry - you MUST verify

James Hunt
1819–1894
BIRTH NOV 1819 • Stonesfield, Oxfordshire, England
Parents Thomas Hunt and Hannah Tovey
DEATH JANUARY 1894 • Woodstock, Oxfordshire

Sarah Hounslow
1825–1902
BIRTH 2 FEB 1825 • Stonesfield, Oxfordshire, England
Parents Caleb Hounslow and Ann Edens
DEATH JULY 1902 • Woodstock, Oxfordshire, England


From marriage cert

Name: Evan Hunt
[Esau Hunt]
Gender: Male
Marriage Age: Full Age
Event Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 26 Apr 1851
Marriage Place: Hanborough, Oxfordshire, England
Spouse: Ann Tredwell

NEITHER party gave a father's name......both said father was 'deceased'

1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Handborough, Witney Union, Oxfordshire, England
Rebecca Hunt Head Widow Female 61 1790 Pauper Hampton, Buckinghamshire, England
Esau Hunt Son Unmarried Male 23 1828 Ag lab Oxon, England

1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Pug Lane, Long Handborough, Witney, Oxfordshire, England
Rebecca Hunt Female 50 1791 Oxfordshire, England
Mark Hunt Male 20 1821 Oxfordshire, England
Esau Hunt Male 16 1825 Oxfordshire, England


Name: Esau Hunt
Baptism Date: 2 Oct 1825
Baptism Place: Hanborough, Oxfordshire, England
Parish as it Appears: Handborough
Father: George Hunt
Mother: Rebecca Hunt


I suspect I'm duplicating info already posted.................apologies if that's the case

There is NO James Hunt in Stonesfield in 1841.......

This is the marriage of his alleged parents
Name: Thomas Hunt
Gender: Male
Event Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 16 Mar 1821
Marriage Place: Horley, Oxfordshire, England
Spouse: Hannah Tovey

Ancestry links this baptism to the marriage
Name: Thomas Hunt
Event Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 1 Nov 1795
Baptism Place: Tadmarton, Oxfordshire, England
Father: Francis Hunt
Mother: Mary Hunt

Doreen

Doreen Report 10 Feb 2023 20:49

1881 England & Wales Census - Ellen Hunt

Name Ellen Hunt
Gender Female
Birth Circa 1853
Stonesfield, Oxfordshire
Residence 1881
Riding Lane, Stonesfield, Stonesfield, Oxfordshire, England
Age 28
Marital status Single
Occupation Dressmaker
Father James Hunt
Mother Sarah Hunt
Siblings Joseph Hunt
Emily Hunt

She was a single at aged 28
Do you think it was correct if she was married to Thomas Harper at her late age?

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 10 Feb 2023 20:57

Look at the info posted!

alviegal

alviegal Report 11 Feb 2023 15:39

George J Freeman died in 1888 so in between censuses as he married Elizabeth Lay in 1884.

FREEMAN, GEORGE JOHN 54
GRO Reference: 1888 M Quarter in WOODSTOCK Volume 03A Page 586