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1901 cenus please

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Teresa

Teresa Report 31 May 2023 14:37

Hi all,
Am looking for a census for Rose Lily Pedder, I believe born Bradford Yorks in 1891/1892 (have looked at original on freeBMD ) I know she married Harry Marsh in 1911. I have found them in Spital Hill, East Retford in 1921 but cannot find her in the 1901 which would hopefully give her parents as well.
Thank-you to anyone who can help.
Teresa.

Maddie

Maddie Report 31 May 2023 14:53

1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census (her family)
6, Jewel Street, Bradford, Yorkshire & Yorkshire (West Riding), England
View original record
Household members (6 people)
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Henry Pedder Head
Married Male 35 1856 Basket maker Bradford, Yorkshire, England
Mary A Pedder Wife
Married Female 28 1863 Worsted weaver Exeter, Devon, England
Walter Pedder Son
Single Male 16 1875 Basket maker Bradford, Yorkshire, England
Thomas Pedder Son
Single Male 14 1877 Basket maker Stanningley, Yorkshire, England
Alice A Pedder Daughter
- Female 8 1883 Scholar Bradford, Yorkshire, England
Caroline Pedder Daughter
- Female 4 1887 - Bradford, Yorkshire, England

Maddie

Maddie Report 31 May 2023 14:55

born after 1891 census
Rose Lily
Country England
Last name Pedder
Volume 9B
Birth quarter 1
Page 48
Birth year 1892
Record set England & Wales Births 1837-2006
Mother's maiden name -
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
District Bradford
Subcategory Civil Births
County Yorkshire

Name: Mother's Maiden Surname:
PEDDER, ROSE LILY DE BRIES
GRO Reference: 1892 M Quarter in BRADFORD Volume 09B Page 48

1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census
4, London Road, East Retford, Ordsall, Nottinghamshire, England
View original record
Household members (14 people)
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Henry Pedder Head
Married Male 45 1856 Basket maker wicker Bradford, Yorkshire, England
Mary A E Pedder Wife
Married Female 37 1864 - Exeter, Devon, England
Walter Pedder Son
Single Male 26 1875 Basket maker wicker Bradford, Yorkshire, England
Alice A Pedder Daughter
Single Female 19 1882 - Bradford, Yorkshire, England
Caroline Pedder Daughter
Single Female 15 1886 - Bradford, Yorkshire, England
Rose L Pedder Daughter
Single Female 9 1892 - Bradford, Yorkshire, England
Beatrice A Pedder Daughter
Single Female 6 1895 - Bradford, Yorkshire, England
Reginald F Andrews Visitor
Single Male 4 1897 - Cheltenham, Gloucestershire, England
Nellie Andrews Visitor
Single Female 3 1898 - Cheltenham, Gloucestershire, England
John H Knight Boarder
Married Male 35 1866 Actor -
Bridges M Knight Boarder
Married Female 28 1873 Actress Dublin, Dublin, Ireland
Harry S Knight Boarder
Single Male 8 1893 - Pudsey, Yorkshire, England
John N E Knight Boarder
Single Male 2 1899 - Maryport, Cumberland, England
Leonard E Knight Boarder
Single Male 0 1901 - Melton Mowbray, Leicestershire, E

Teresa

Teresa Report 31 May 2023 14:57

Hi Maddie,
Can you find her in the 1901 if possible please

Teresa

Teresa Report 31 May 2023 14:58

Wow, thank you very much.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 31 May 2023 15:20

Births of siblings - varying mmn:

PEDDER, CAROLINE mmn RINGLER DE VRIES
GRO Reference: 1886 S Quarter in BRADFORD YORKSHIRE Volume 09B Page 98

PEDDER, BEATRICE ANNIE mmn DEVRIES
GRO Reference: 1894 D Quarter in BRADFORD Volume 09B Page 33

PEDDER, ALICE ANN mmn RINGLER
GRO Reference: 1882 S Quarter in BRADFORD YORKSHIRE Volume 09B Page 101

PEDDER, WALTER mmn FISHER
GRO Reference: 1875 J Quarter in BRADFORD YORKSHIRE Volume 09B Page 75

PEDDER, THOMAS mmn FISHER
GRO Reference: 1877 M Quarter in BRADFORD YORKSHIRE Volume 09B Page 303


1881 - Walter and Thomas are with their Pedder grandparents. Their mother Melinda had just died - see below.


Henry's marriage to the mother of Walter & Thomas:

Henry Pedder
in the West Yorkshire, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1813-1935
Name Henry Pedder
Marriage Age 18
Event Type Marriage
Birth Year abt 1856
Marriage Date 6 May 1874
Marriage Place Calverley, St Wilfrid, Yorkshire, England
Parish as it Appears Calverley, St Wilfrid
Father Thomas Pedder
Spouse Melinda Fisher


Her death:

Deaths Mar 1881 (>99%)
PEDDER Melinda 23 Bradford, Y. 9b 64

So far, I'm not seeing a marriage to Mary A - his wife in 1891 and 1901 censuses.


Mary Ann in 1881:

Mary Ann Eliza Ringler
in the 1881 England Census
Name Mary Ann Eliza Ringler
Age 18
Estimated Birth Year abt 1863
Relationship to Head Daughter
Father George Ringler
Mother Emma Ringler
Gender Female
Where born Exeter
Civil parish Bingley
County/Island Yorkshire
Country England
Street Address Moor Bottom
Occupation Servant
Registration district Keighley
ED, institution, or vessel 21
Neighbors
Piece 4344
Folio 97
Page number 5
Household Members (Name) Age Relationship
George Ringler 40 Head
Emma Ringler 36 Wife
Mary Ann Eliza Ringler 18 Daughter
Rosaline Elizabeth Ringler 17 Daughter
George Ringler 15 Son
John James Ringler 13 Son
Florance E. Ringler 9 Daughter
Emma Maria Ringler 6 Daughter
William Henry Ringler 4 Son
Alice Ringler 1 Daughter
Margrautia Campbell 20 Boarder

Maddie

Maddie Report 31 May 2023 15:28

PEDDER, WALTER FISHER
GRO Reference: 1875 J Quarter in BRADFORD YORKSHIRE Volume 09B Page 75

PEDDER, BEATRICE ANNIE DEVRIES
GRO Reference: 1894 D Quarter in BRADFORD Volume 09B Page 33

PEDDER, ALICE ANN RINGLER
GRO Reference: 1882 S Quarter in BRADFORD YORKSHIRE Volume 09B

Henry Pedder
Marriage Age 18
Event Type Marriage
Birth Year abt 1856
Marriage Date 6 May 1874
Marriage Place Calverley, St Wilfrid, Yorkshire, England
Parish as it Appears Calverley, St Wilfrid
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Father
Thomas Pedder
Spouse
Melinda Fisher

2nd wife
Name: Mary Ann Eliza Ringler
Registration Date: 1863
Quarter of the Year: Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration Place: St Thomas, Devon, England
Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District
Volume: 5b
Page: 73

can't find a marrriage yet

1n 1881 census he was a widow

Teresa

Teresa Report 31 May 2023 15:30

Hi, 1901 at 4 London Road Retford has Mary A E as wife born Exeter Devon 1864.
Certainly something to sort out here, thank you very much

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 31 May 2023 15:46

Mary Ann's parents' marriage:

Marriages Mar 1862 (>99%)
Harris Emma Maria Morton Exeter 5b 180
Ringler George De'Frees Exeter 5b 180
Ringler George Défrees Exeter 5b 180

According to trees on Ancestry, her father was born in Zwolle, Overijssel, Netherlands, as Jurrien Meves De Vries (1839-1899).
George/Jurrien's mother's surname was Ringler.


Mary Ann doesn't appear to have married Henry Pedder - at least not in England/Wales.

Teresa

Teresa Report 31 May 2023 15:54

Thank-you Argyll Gran and Maddie for this information

Maddie

Maddie Report 31 May 2023 16:13

George Ringler De Vries
Birth Date 28 nov 1839
Birth Place Zwolle
URL
https://www.wiewaswie.nl/personen-zoeken/zoeken/document/srcid/109586688#020


Name George Defries Ringler
Gender mannelijk (Male)
Spouse
Emma Maria Harris
Child
John James Defries Ringler
URL
https://www.wiewaswie.nl/personen-zoeken/zoeken/document/srcid/31168440

Charlotte De Vries
Birth Date 10 mei 1886 (10 May 1886)
Birth Place Zaandam
Father
George Ringler De Vries
Mother
Emma Maria Morton Harris
URL
https://www.wiewaswie.nl/personen-zoeken/zoeken/document/srcid/109679404


mary ann's brother


John James Defrees Ringler
Baptism Date 12 Apr 1868
Baptism Place Exeter, St Thomas, Devon, England
Religion Anglican
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Father
George Defrees Ringler
Mother
Emma Defrees Ringler

Teresa

Teresa Report 31 May 2023 16:31

Thank-you Maddie