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I am trying to see if there were any other children born to the marriage of

Thomas Gower b 1776 Hallington, Sussex
M 1808
Charlotte Cheale b 1786

on the 1841 census
George Gower b 1816
John Gower b 1821
Charlotte Gower b 1823
Harriett Gower b 1827

It just seems strange that if they married in 1808, their first child wasnt born until 1816? Unless, their firstborn children died in infancy.

This census is not the one where it shows number of living and number that died.

Any suggestions where else it I can find out?

The family are mostly from the battle area of Sussex

Florence in the hebrides

I think FMP now has Sussex records. I don’t have it myself.

Added: According to Genuki the Sussex FHS have the baptismal index. Not sure if they are willing to do a search ( at a cost?).
More: I googled and got a Family search tree which gives 6 children Frances, William, George, John, Charlotte & Harriet.

Ty names. my FMP expired but hoping to renew it next month.

1841 census ages were supposed to be ‘rounded’ for over-15’s

Look for offspring of the marriage living elsewhere………..

ONLY 1911 census has info about numbers of children born in the marriage and living/dead

There is only ONE baptism on FMP in Sussex for a Gower child with parents Thomas and Charlotte

That was 20 March 1808 in CROWHURST………….first name Frances

Son George gives his birthplace as Battle on 1851 census

There is a William on 1851 born c1812 in Battle………married to Lydia by 1841.

Marriage actually pre-1837, so no father’s name info will be available, unfortunately

Unless you can find baptisms of any other children on FamilySearch, for instance, or can deduce anything from location of any marriages giving father's name, there's no way to find out.

Any children born before George would have left home and be living independently by 1841.

I don’t have a Family Search account so can’t have a look at the tree I mentioned but dates given are
Frances 1808, William 1812 - 1877, George 1816, John 1822-1881, Charlotte 1823, Harriet 1827.
Father Thomas 1775-1853. , Charlotte 1785-1849

Ah names so there were 2 more, thought so ty. Francis & William.

One other curiosity about the parents is that on 1841 census, it shows a lady called Jemima Gower also born 1776 same as Thomas. It crossed my mind if they were twins, brother & sister. She never married and died in 1845.

Ty folks for your kind help

Florence in the hebrides

In 1841 they would have given their ages which for anyone over the age of 15 were supposed to be rounded down to the nearest 5 ie age 19 would show as 15 so born 1826-1822

Showing on 1841 as 65 could have been aged 65-69 and therefore born between 1776 and 1772 and as 55 could have been 55-59 so born between 1786 and 1782

Sometimes actual ages appear to be recorded.

1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Black Smiths, Battle, Sussex, England

First name(s) Last name Sex Age Birth year Birth place
Thomas Gower Male 65 1776 Sussex, England
Charlotte Gower Female 55 1786 Sussex, England
George Gower Male 25 1816 Sussex, England
John Gower Male 20 1821 Sussex, England
Charlotte Gower Female 18 1823 Sussex, England
Harriet Gower Female 14 1827 Sussex, England
Jemima Gower Female 65 1776 Sussex, England Widow

Original shows Jemima as a Widow

Charlotte died aged 68 in 1849, so if accurate she was born 1780/1

Greyghost, ty. It didn't occur to me that she married a Gower. I didn't see that it said she was a widow!

Rounding the ages changes things a lot.

I'm working on the children of the firstborn William b1812.(7 chuldren)

William's daughter Jane Gower b 1838 had 11 children!!! So that will, keep me busy for awhile.

Ty for the info, always appreciated

Ancestry ...East Sussex records show a Battle marriage on 13 August 1793 for a Stephen Gower marrying Jemima Cruttenden ( both of that parish )

Baptism transcribed records show her possible baptism 9 November 1774 in Battle as CRITTENDEN, dau. of William and Mary.

They feature on submitted family trees too.

Might this be the 1841 census Jemima ?

Thomas and Charlotte married in Crowhurst in Jan 1808.................where the first child Frances was baptised, as per my earlier post

Florence
I believe you may have an Ancestry account?

Transcribed East Sussex records for Battle baptisms can be viewed there and you can move forward or back through the pages......

https://www.ancestry.co.uk/imageviewer/collections/62049/images/62049_0002_0001-00220?treeid=&personid=&rc=&usePUB=true&_phsrc=OLt2497&_phstart=successSource&pId=2828332

Gwyn, ty, I do have an account with FMP but my subs has expired. May renew next month as too much outgoings just now.

Thankyou for the marriage info re Jemina, that's an extra, I didn't expect to find.

Yes Erika, ty also.

From the link provided by Gwyn.....which is on ANCESTRY.........William baptised 5th August 1812