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Joseph Martin

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hotchoc

hotchoc Report 2 Sep 2023 19:47

This is for a friend so limited info - but can anyone help find the birth of Joseph Martin?
All i have is...
Age 9 in 1871 in an orphanage / house with 11 other boys owned by a priest called Daniel Haigh. Born Conderton, Worcestershire.
That's all i have :(
Thank you! <3

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 2 Sep 2023 20:09

Have you tried freebmd

hotchoc

hotchoc Report 2 Sep 2023 20:13

yes i have.

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 2 Sep 2023 20:20

Just to identify
Name Joseph Martin
Age 9
Estimated Birth Year 1862
Relation Nephew
[Orphan]
Gender
[Male]
Where born Coudsrton, Gloucestershire, England
[Conderton, Gloucestershire, England]
[Conderton, Worcestershire, England]
Civil parish Aston
Ecclesiastical parish Erdington
Town Erdington
County/Island Warwickshire
Country England
Registration district Aston
Sub-registration district Erdington
ED, institution, or vessel 37
Household schedule number 158
Piece 3159
Folio 45
Page number 26
Household Members (Name) Age Relationship
Daniel H Haigh
51 Head Roman Catholic Priest
John Madden
18 Nephew
Michael Davis
15 Nephew
John Fouens
15 Nephew
Henry Johnson
13 Nephew
James Morris
12 Nephew
John Davis
11 Nephew
Thomas Bell
10 Nephew
Joseph Martin 9 Nephew
John Morris
8 Nephew
David Rowen
9 Nephew
James Youens
8 Nephew
Edwd Robinson
7 Nephew
Regina Lamport
34 Housekeeper
Amelia Barter
56 Tenant
Ruhamah S Borcham
46 Servant


Not nephews annotated as orphans

hotchoc

hotchoc Report 2 Sep 2023 20:29

That's right - many thanks.

hotchoc

hotchoc Report 2 Sep 2023 20:35

he married Elizabeth Cadman

nameslessone

nameslessone Report 2 Sep 2023 20:42

Could this be Joseph Masons Orphanage?. If so records are said to have been destroyed but a list of residents may be available at Birmingham archives.

hotchoc

hotchoc Report 2 Sep 2023 20:44

no idea im afraid

hotchoc

hotchoc Report 2 Sep 2023 21:19

I have found this...

Births Jun 1863
Martin Joseph
Witney 3a 613

can anyone see who his parents are from this at all?

greyghost

greyghost Report 2 Sep 2023 22:18

From the free to use site which shows Mother's maiden name -https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/indexes_search.asp#Results

Name: Mother's Maiden Surname:
MARTIN, JOSEPH HICKS
GRO Reference: 1863 J Quarter in WITNEY Volume 03A Page 613

IF this is the correct birth.
Witney would not cover the place he is said to be born on that 1871 census - ie Conderton which is Worcestershire and a Tewkesbury RD

greyghost

greyghost Report 2 Sep 2023 22:42

Staffordshire Marriages
Rushall, St Michael, Staffordshire, England

First name(s) Joseph
Last name Martin
Birth year 1862
Age 20
Spouse's first name(s) Elizabeth
Spouse's last name Cadman
Spouse's birth year 1861
Spouse's age 21
Spouse's residence North Street
Year 1882
Date 01 May 1882
Place Rushall, St Michael
Denomination Anglican
Spouse's father's first name(s) George
Spouse's father's last name Cadman
County Staffordshire
Residence North Street
Country England
Archive reference D3845/1/14
Register type Marriage
Page 64
Record set Staffordshire Marriages
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Parish Marriages
Collections from England, Great Britain


From original -
Joseph a Locksmith
No Father's name given
witnesses - Harry Ball and Sophia Cadman

greyghost

greyghost Report 2 Sep 2023 22:56

1891 - Joseph said to be born Bloxwich, Staffordshire.
Bloxwich is a sub district of Walsall Reg. District

1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census
62, High Street, Walsall Foreign, Walsall, Staffordshire, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Joseph Martin Head Married Male 28 1863 Locksmith Bloxwich, Staffordshire, England
Elizabeth Martin Wife Married Female 29 1862 - Bloxwich, Staffordshire, England
Gertrude Martin Daughter Single Female 8 1883 - Bloxwich, Staffordshire, England
Beatrice Martin Daughter Single Female 6 1885 - Bloxwich, Staffordshire, England
Ann M Martin Daughter Single Female 4 1887 - Bloxwich, Staffordshire, England
Evangeline Martin Daughter Single Female 2 1889 - Bloxwich, Staffordshire, England
Helen Martin Daughter Single Female 1 1890 - Bloxwich, Staffordshire, England

hotchoc

hotchoc Report 2 Sep 2023 23:13

Wow thank you very much for your time! <3

Still tricky finding his birth :(

greyghost

greyghost Report 2 Sep 2023 23:20

His birth may not have been registered

This is the only birth registration 1863 +/- 2 years Walsall.

Name: Mother's Maiden Surname:
MARTIN, JOSEPH BOOKER -
GRO Reference: 1863 M Quarter in WALSALL Volume 06B Page 614


BUT the 1901 census says born Gloucester

hotchoc

hotchoc Report 2 Sep 2023 23:28

Thank you, I am beginning to think the same x

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 3 Sep 2023 09:05

A child aged 9 on 1871 census would have been born no later than 2nd April 1862 - assuming that the info given is accurate

hotchoc

hotchoc Report 3 Sep 2023 09:39

Thanks x