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Confused !! re William Harding b 1860

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Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 23 Sep 2023 15:44

Hi I have the 1901 census record for this man, his wife and 4 children at Grant St Walsall.
However when i try to find any of them on 1911 census , no luck.
also cannot find the right people on 1861, 71, 81, or 91 !!
Any one got any ideas please. I have tried with and without various details for each of the family and found no matches.
Thanks Jackie

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 23 Sep 2023 15:50

It helps to have all of the info to aid the search

1901 census
3 Grant street
William Harding Head Married Male 41 1860 Railway shunter Pershore, Worcestershire, England
Mary Ann Harding Wife Married Female 40 1861 - Pershore, Worcestershire, England
Harry Harding Son Single Male 19 1882 Coal miner ropeman (below) Hednesford, Staffordshire, England
William Harding Son Single Male 17 1884 Coal miner ropeman (below) Hednesford, Staffordshire, England
Thomas Harding Son Single Male 10 1891 - Hednesford, Staffordshire, England
Charles Harding Son Single Male 7 1894 - Pelsall, Staffordshire, England


ErikaH

ErikaH Report 23 Sep 2023 15:54

HARDING, HARRY TURVEY
GRO Reference: 1882 M Quarter in CANNOCK Volume 06B Page 510

HARDING, CHARLES TURVEY
GRO Reference: 1893 J Quarter in WALSALL Volume 06B Page 769

Marriages Dec 1879 (>99%)
Harding William Worcester 6c 419
TURVEY Mary Worcester 6c 419

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 23 Sep 2023 16:01

Name Mary Turvey
Gender Female
Marriage Age Full Age
Record Type Marriage
Marriage Date 5 Oct 1879
Marriage Place Worcester All Saints (Worcester St Andrew and All Saints with St Helen and St Alban), Worcestershire, England
Father Robert Turvey
Spouse William Harding
Father Thomas Harding, Labourer

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 23 Sep 2023 16:14

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1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Newlands, Holy Cross, Pershore, Worcestershire, England
Robert Turvey Head Married Male 38 1823 Agricultural labourer -
Ann Turvey Wife Married Female 35 1826 - -
Jane K Turvey Daughter - Female 11 1850 Scholar -
Robert Turvey Son - Male 8 1853 Scholar -
Ruben Turvey Son - Male 6 1855 Scholar -
Mary Ann Turvey Daughter - Female 4 1857 Scholar -
William Turvey Son - Male 1 1860 - -

1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Pinvin Road, Pershore, Worcestershire, England
Thomas Harding Head - Male 66 1805 - Worcestershire, England***********
Hannah Harding Wife - Female 55 1816 - Worcestershire, England
William Harding Son - Male 17 1854 - Worcestershire, England
*************Labourer


1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Wyre Piddle Village, Wyre Piddle, Pershore, Worcestershire, England
Thomas Harding Head Married Male 54 1807 Thatcher Moore, Worcestershire, England
Hannah Harding Wife Married Female 41 1820 Gloveress Broom, Warwickshire, England
Thomas Harding Son Unmarried Male 12 1849 Scholar Bishampton, Worcestershire, England
William Harding Son Unmarried Male 7 1854 Scholar Wyre Piddle, Worcestershire, England

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 23 Sep 2023 16:20

Have you looked for deaths?

Or migration?

How did you work back to this family?

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 23 Sep 2023 16:28

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1911 Census For England & Wales
6 Alma Sqr Birchills Walsall, Walsall, Staffordshire, England
Harry Harding Head Married Male 26 1885 Coal miner hewer Hensford Staff
Maggie Harding Wife Married Female 23 1888 - Bloxwich Staffs
Annie Harding Daughter - Female 2 1909 - Bloxwich Staffs
Thomas Harding Boarder Single Male 19 1892 Coal miner horse driver Hensford Staffs

HARDING, VIOLET ANNIE BULL
GRO Reference: 1909 J Quarter in WALSALL Volume 06B Page 709

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 23 Sep 2023 17:42

Births of Charles and Harry already posted.

Births of Thomas and William ??

HARDING, THOMAS mmn TURVEY
GRO Reference: 1890 J Quarter in CANNOCK Volume 06B Page 501

HARDING, WILLIAM mmn TURVEY
GRO Reference: 1885 M Quarter in LICHFIELD Volume 06B Page 489

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 23 Sep 2023 17:43

The family in 1891:

Thomas Harden
in the 1891 England Census
Name Thomas Harden
Gender Male
Age 1
Relationship Son
Birth Year 1890
Father
William Harden
Mother
Mary A Harden
Birth Place Hednesford, Staffordshire, England
Civil parish Cannock
Ecclesiastical parish Hednesford St Peter
Residence Place Hednesford, Cannock, Staffordshire, England
Registration district Cannock
Sub registration district Cannock
ED, Institution or Vessel 11
Neighbors
Piece 2220
Folio 57
Household Members (Name) Age Relationship
William Harden 30 Head
Mary A Harden 27 Wife
Harry Harden 9 Son
William Harden 7 Son
Thomas Harden 1 Son

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 23 Sep 2023 17:55

Mary Ann Harding
in the 1911 England Census
Name Mary Ann Harding
Age in 1911 48
Estimated Birth Year abt 1863
Relation to Head Wife
Gender Female
Birth Place Pershore, Worcestershire
Civil parish Cannock
County/Island Staffordshire
Country England
Street Address 18 Bradbury Lane, Hednesford, Staffs
Marital Status Married
Years Married 29
Estimated Marriage Year 1882
Registration District Number 368
Sub-registration district Cannock
ED, institution, or vessel 19
Piece 16952
Household Members (Name) Age Relationship
William Harding 49 Head
Mary Ann Harding 48 Wife
Charlie Harding 18 Son

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 23 Sep 2023 18:03

?? Maybe - but there are other women of the same name in Staffs.

Mary A Harding
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007
Name Mary A Harding
Death Age 78
Birth Date abt 1861
Registration Date Jan 1939 [Feb 1939] [Mar 1939]
Registration Quarter Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration district Stoke on Trent
Inferred County Staffordshire
Volume 6b
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