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Marian
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23 Oct 2023 18:41 |
Hello, could someone take a look at the above please. Christina born 1910 West Hartlepool - with Minnie, Margaret and one other. Parish West Hartlepool, registration district Hartlepool, County Durham. Thank you.
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ErikaH
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23 Oct 2023 19:25 |
MInnie Harvey 33y 1m, married
Charles Harvey, son, 1921
Margaret Neason 1912
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ErikaH
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23 Oct 2023 19:43 |
Minnie’s husband, Daniel, born Hull, is in the army on 1921 census. Age 29y 8m
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Marian
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23 Oct 2023 19:47 |
Thank you Erika, looks like Minnie got married again.
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23 Oct 2023 23:00 |
Census in full -
1921 Census Of England & Wales 36, Albert Street, West Hartlepool, Durham, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship to head Sex Birth year Age in years Birth place Occupation Employer Minnie Harvey Head Female 1888 33y 1m West Hartlepool, Durham, England Home Duties - Christina Neason Step-daughter Female 1910 10y 8m West Hartlepool, Durham, England - - Margaret Neason Step-daughter Female 1912 9y 6m West Hartlepool, Durham, England - - Charles Harvey Son Male 1921 6m West Hartlepool, Durham, England - -
From original - Minnie is said to be married and is shown as Head of household Christina and Margaret are wrongly shown as step-daughters to her Christina and Margaret's entries have "Father dead" beside them Charles Harvey is 6 months old - have added in the full ages of each person
Surname First name(s) Spouse District Vol Page Marriages Jun 1920 (>99%) Harvey Daniel Neason Houghton 10a 1496 Neason Minnie Harvey Houghton 10a 1496
There isn't a suitable male Neason death between the daughters births and a marriage for Minnie in 1920 unless surname spelt wrongly, WW1 only death is of a New Zealander died 1917 aged 21
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greyghost
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23 Oct 2023 23:12 |
Might explain -
?Depending where you look, the girls' births recorded under NIEHSEN/NICHSEN
Name: Mother's Maiden Surname: NIEHSEN, CHRISTINA HELEN REED GRO Reference: 1910 D Quarter in HARTLEPOOL Volume 10A Page 116
Births Mar 1912 (>99%) Niehsen Margaret R Reed Hartlepool 10a 304
Name: Mother's Maiden Surname: NICHSEN, MARGARET ROSINA REED GRO Reference: 1912 M Quarter in HARTLEPOOL Volume 10A Page 304
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greyghost
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23 Oct 2023 23:15 |
1911 Census For England & Wales 14 Havelock St West Hartlepool, West Hartlepool, Durham, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship to head Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place John Nichsen Head Married Male 27 1884 Line smelter Germany Holberg Minnie Nichsen Wife Married Female 22 1889 - West Hartlepool Durham Christina Helen Nichsen Daughter - Female 0 1911 - West Hartlepool Durham
Surname First name(s) District Vol Page Marriages Dec 1909 (>99%) NICHSEN John Hartlepool 10a 244 REED Minnie Hartlepool 10a 244
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ArgyllGran
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24 Oct 2023 00:12 |
Ancestry's transcription of 1911 spells their surname Richsen, and gives John's birthplace as Rhyl, Germany!
Corrections submitted.
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ErikaH
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24 Oct 2023 11:08 |
First name(s) Daniel Name of ship or barracks The Armoury, West Hartlepool (Barracks) Last name Harvey Type of ship or barracks Barracks Sex Male Location of ship or barracks 5th Battalion, Durham Light Infantry (Defence Force), The Armoury, West Hartlepool Birth year 1891 Parish West Hartlepool Census date 19 June 1921 Registration district Hartlepool Age in years 29 Registration district number 545 Age in months 8 Sub-district West Hartlepool Age as transcribed 29 y 8 m Sub-district number 2 Marital status Married Enumeration district number 48 Birth place Hull, Yorkshire, England County Durham Birth town Hull Country England Birth county Yorkshire Ward of borough or urban district Central Birth country England Parliamentary borough or division The Hartlepools PB Birth place as transcribed Yorkshire, Hull Archive The National Archives Occupation code 813 Archive series RG 15 Occupation code with suffix 813/6 Piece number 24367 Employer code 899 Page 3 Rank or rating Private District reference RD 545 RS 2 ED 48 Branch of service Army Schedule type code NM Service and branch or arm of service Army Schedule type Armed Forces, multiple page, 70+ entries Number of minor dependants 3 Other household member's first name(s) - Language used to complete form English Other household member's last name - Person making return Mr B J Harworth Record set 1921 Census Of England & Wales House name Guardians Offices Category Census, land & surveys Street Hart Road Subcategory Census Address Guardians Offices Hart Road Collections from Great Britain, England Full address as transcribed Guardians Offices, Hart Road, West Hartlepool
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ErikaH
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24 Oct 2023 11:21 |
1939 Register 8 Princess Street, Hartlepool, Hartlepool M.B., Durham, England
Minnie Harvey 19 May 1889 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 34 1 Leonard Harvey 28 Mar 1922 Male Skill Worker - Rolling Mill Single 34 2 Jean Tipple (Harvey) 24 Sep 1929 Female At School Single 34 3 Christina Turnbull 04 Oct 1910 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 34 4
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Marian
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24 Oct 2023 12:29 |
Thank you all for the above. There are various spellings for John Niehsen which makes it tricky trying to find out what happened to him after the 1911 census. Did he go back to Germany when war was imminent or was he interned? Did he die naturally? Thank you all again, I appreciate the help.
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ArgyllGran
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24 Oct 2023 14:37 |
Margaret's marriage cert might tell you if her father was alive or deceased in 1934.
Margaret R Nichsen in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Marriage Index, 1916-2005 Name Margaret R Nichsen Registration Date Apr 1934 [May 1934] [Jun 1934] Registration Quarter Apr-May-Jun Registration district Hartlepool Inferred County Durham Spouse Lewis Natt Volume Number 10a Page number 261
Margaret died in 1984, and Lewis in 1988.
So would Christina's in 1939:
Christina H Niehsen in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Marriage Index, 1916-2005 Name Christina H Niehsen Registration Date Jul 1939 [Aug 1939] [Sep 1939] Registration Quarter Jul-Aug-Sep Registration district Durham South Eastern Inferred County Durham Spouse Thomas C Turnbull Volume Number 10a Page number 373
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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24 Oct 2023 14:38 |
The marriage cert of 1920 will give her marital status
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Marian
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24 Oct 2023 18:27 |
Thank you Argyll and Shirley.
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