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Chalk Family

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Graham

Graham Report 29 Dec 2023 16:07

Hi
Have reached a point where I am struggling and wondered if you might assist me please? I have progressed as far as Naphtali Chalk born 16/1/1888 in Angmering, Sussex. His father was William Chalk and Mother Dinah Chalk (maiden name Boniface). I have their marriage certificate 1869 Chichester, Sussex (certificate viewable on Ancestry) which gives Williams father as George Chalk a Labourer. The censuses from 1871 - 1911 where I have found William give his place of birth as follows:
1871 Margin Veal? Wiltshire
1881 Downton, Wiltshire
1891 Redlinch, Wiltshire
1901 Angmering, Sussex
1911 Downton, Wiltshire
I believe he died in 1913.
Pre 1869 marriage I havent determind the correct censuses or the birth record as I can not see William with a a father George.
PLEASE HELP!!
:-S

Graham

Graham Report 29 Dec 2023 16:21

Just found that the 1871 Census birthplace is Morgans Vale and the 1891 is Redlynch
Redlynch is a village and civil parish about 6.5 miles (10.5 km) southeast of Salisbury in Wiltshire, England. The parish includes the villages of Morgan's Vale and Woodfalls

Marian

Marian Report 29 Dec 2023 16:38

1861 census The Worthys, Eastham, Hampshire

George Chalk 36 Agric labourer Downton, Wilts
Elizabeth wife 29 Fordingbridge, hampshire
William 9 son Downton, Wilts
Louisa 6 daughter Kings Worthy Hampshire
Alfred 4 son Kings Worthy Hampshire
Harry 2 son Easton Hampshire

From FreeCen

Baptised 8 February 1852 Redlynch, Wiltshire parents George and Elizabeth - from Family Search

nameslessone

nameslessone Report 29 Dec 2023 16:40

As William had to complete the 1911 census himself then I would go with that.

It wasn’t compulsory to register births for a while after the registrations began and you haven’t indicated when you think William was born.

William’s mother may not have been married and he might have invented a fathers name.

Added: my post crossed with Marion’s. I wonder if it is worth getting the William Chalk birth certificate 1852 in South Stoneham, Hants. The parents might have moved to Hampshire immediately after the birth and before they could register ( on freebmd)

Marian

Marian Report 29 Dec 2023 16:46

There is a marriage for George Chalk to Elizabeth Green March q 1851 Alderbury district which is in Wiltshire. Downton is included in Alderbury district.

Graham

Graham Report 29 Dec 2023 16:52

Thank you Marian
All of the censuses 1871 - 1911 gave his birth year as 1847 but very happy with your findings of George, the marriage of George and Elizabeth and the baptism in Redlynch :-D

Graham

Graham Report 29 Dec 2023 16:54

Thank you also nameslessone I will take a look at that birh

nameslessone

nameslessone Report 29 Dec 2023 17:14

If 1847 is nearer the right date then there are several other possibilities all on freebmd.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 29 Dec 2023 17:35

If the birth was registered, it will be on the GRO site where MMN is given, if the birth was legitmate

It is FREE to use, and much more useful than freebmd for pre-1911 births

greyghost

greyghost Report 29 Dec 2023 18:11

I would have thought that the census nearest to his birth would be more likely to have him at the right age ie the 1861 when he is 9 (not always true)

Name: Mother's Maiden Surname
CHALK, WILLIAM GREEN
GRO Reference: 1851 D Quarter in ALDERBURY Volume 08 Page 269

CHALK, LOUISA GREEN
GRO Reference: 1854 J Quarter in WINCHESTER Volume 02C Page 82

CHALK, ALFRED GREEN
GRO Reference: 1856 D Quarter in WINCHESTER Volume 02C Page 80

CHALK, HARRY GREEN
GRO Reference: 1859 M Quarter in WINCHESTER Volume 02C Page 90

Graham

Graham Report 29 Dec 2023 18:29

Thank you :-D :-D :-D

greyghost

greyghost Report 29 Dec 2023 18:29

Baptisms. Father George a Labourer and Elizabeth (GRO has all with mmn Green)

William 8.2.1852 @ Redlynch of Redlynch
Louisa 2.7.1854 @ Kings Worthy
Alfred Chalk 4.1.1857 @ Kings Worthy
Harry 28.2.1859 @ Easton
Lavinia 14.7.1861 @ Easton
Anna 25.12.1863 @ Redlynch
Bertha 29.7.1866 @ Redlynch
Edith 25.12.1868 @ Downton of Downton
Walter Mark 17.3.1872 @ Downton, of Morgan's Vale

greyghost

greyghost Report 29 Dec 2023 18:37

1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Morgans Vale, Downton, Alderbury, Wiltshire, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
George Chalk Head - Male 46 1825 - Wiltshire, England Downton
Elizabeth Chalk Wife - Female 39 1832 - Hampshire, England
Louisa Chalk Daughter - Female 16 1855 - Hampshire, England Kingsworthy
Alfred Chalk Son - Male 14 1857 - Hampshire, England Kingsworthy
Harry Chalk Son - Male 12 1859 - Hampshire, England Easton
Lavinia Chalk Daughter - Female 9 1862 - Hampshire, England Easton
Ann Chalk Daughter - Female 7 1864 - Hampshire, England Easton
Burther Chalk Daughter - Female 5 1866 - Wiltshire, England Downton
Edith Chalk Daughter - Female 2 1869 - Wiltshire, England Downton

greyghost

greyghost Report 29 Dec 2023 18:41

Wiltshire Baptisms Index 1530-1917
Downton, Wiltshire, England

First name(s) George
Last name Chalk
Birth year -
Baptism year 1825
Baptism date 03 Apr 1825
Father's first name(s) William
Father's last name Chalk
Father's occupation Labourer
Mother's first name(s) Maria
Residence Downton
Place Downton
County Wiltshire
Country England
Record type Bishop's Transcripts
Record set Wiltshire Baptisms Index 1530-1917
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Parish Baptisms
Collections from England, Great Britain

greyghost

greyghost Report 29 Dec 2023 18:50

Wiltshire Marriages Index 1538-1933
Downton, Wiltshire, England

First name(s) William
Last name Chalk
Birth year -
Residence Downton
Marriage year 1817
Marriage date 21 Dec 1817
Place Downton
County Wiltshire
Spouse's first name(s) Maria
Spouse's last name Higgs
Spouse's residence Downton
Witness 1 Thomas Read
Witness 2 Wm Pope
Record set Wiltshire Marriages Index 1538-1933
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Parish Marriages
Country England
Collections from England, Great Britain
By licence or by banns B


William Pope may be a Church official - his name appears on other marriage records as a witness

greyghost

greyghost Report 29 Dec 2023 18:55

1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Redlinch, Downton, Alderbury, Wiltshire, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Maria Chalk Head W Female 58 1793 Lace maker pauper Wiltshire, England
Charles Chalk Son Unmarried Male 28 1823 Ag lab Wiltshire, England
Henry Chalk Son Unmarried Male 15 1836 Ag lab Wiltshire, England

1841 - also in Redlynch - Maria with the boys. she is a Nurse, Wm & Charles Ag. Labs
Maria 40, William 20, Charles 15 and Henry 5

greyghost

greyghost Report 29 Dec 2023 19:11

North Charford - a hamlet in Hants but close to the Wilts border - is next to Morgan's Vale and Downton, a few miles from Fordingbridge where Elizabeth is said to be born on the 1861 census. The 1871 says she was born in ? Hale - close to Charford

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Wiltshire Baptisms Index 1530-1917
Downton, Wiltshire, England

First name(s) Elizabeth
Residence Charford
Last name Green
Place Downton
Birth year -
County Wiltshire
Baptism year 1832
Country England
Baptism date 15 Jan 1832
Record type Bishop's Transcripts
Father's first name(s) Thomas
Record set Wiltshire Baptisms Index 1530-1917
Father's last name Green
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Father's occupation Labourer
Subcategory Parish Baptisms
Mother's first name(s) Betty
Collections from England, Great Britain

Graham

Graham Report 29 Dec 2023 20:07

Amazing thank you :-D