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McGinnes

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John

John Report 5 Apr 2024 17:36

any info on
Joseph McGinnes
B:01 Aug 1858 Middle OR New Parish, Greenock, Renfrewshire

D:31 Dec 1934 Greenock West, Renfrewshire, Scotland. would be very helpful.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 5 Apr 2024 17:43

What research have you done?

He should be on censuses………

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 5 Apr 2024 18:21

What information are you hoping for?
I assume you have registered with Scotlands People, to find the details you gave.

Buy credits and look at the images of the birth and death certs.
That will give you his parents' names and date of marriage (on the birth cert).

Birth:

MCGINNES, JOSEPH
mmn JOHNSTON
M
1858
564 / 1 / 358
Greenock New or Middle

Death:

MCGINNES, JOSEPH
76
M
1935
564 / 2 / 2
Greenock West


ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 5 Apr 2024 18:25

Joseph Mcginnes
in the Scotland, Select Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950
Name Joseph Mcginnes
Gender Male
Birth Date 1 Aug 1858
Birth Place Middle OR New Parish, Greenock, Renfrew, Scotland
Father
Bernard Mcginnes
Mother
Mary Johnston



Joseph Mcginnes
in the 1861 Scotland Census
Name Joseph Mcginnes
Age 2
Estimated Birth Year abt 1859
Relationship Son
Mother's Name Mary Mcginnes
Gender Male
Where born Greenock, Renfrewshire
Registration Number 564/1
Registration district Greenock Middle
Civil parish Greenock Middle
County Renfrewshire
Address 6 Highland Close
ED 5
Household schedule number 9
Line 19
Roll CSSCT1861_76
Household Members (Name) Age Relationship
Mary Mcginnes 38 Head
Joseph Mcginnes 2 Son

greyghost

greyghost Report 5 Apr 2024 18:25

1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Highland Close, Greenock, Middle Parish Greenock, Renfrewshire, Scotland

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Mary McGinnes Head Married Female 38 1823 - Greenock, Renfrewshire, Scotland
Joseph McGinnes Son - Male 2 1859 - Greenock, Renfrewshire, Scotland

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Mother doesn't appear to have aged much in 10 years!

1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Taylors Close, 3, Middle Parish Greenock, Renfrewshire, Scotland

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Mary McGuines Head Married Female 42 1829 - Greenock, Renfrewshire, Scotland
Joseph McGuines Son - Male 12 1859 - Greenock, Renfrewshire, Scotland
John McGuines Son - Male 4 1867 - Greenock, Renfrewshire, Scotland


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1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Langwell Close 4Th Stair, Middle Church, Greenock Middle, Renfrewshire, Scotland

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Barnerd McGinnis Head Married Male 65 1816 Genl labourer Glasgow, Renfrewshire, Scotland
Mary McGinnis Wife Married Female 60 1821 - Greenock, Renfrewshire, Scotland
Joseph McGinnis Son Unmarried Male 23 1858 Quay labourer Greenock, Renfrewshire, Scotland
John McGinnis Son Unmarried Male 13 1868 Scholar Greenock, Renfrewshire, Scotland
Samuel Dalles Boarder - Male 4 1877 Scholar Greenock, Renfrewshire, Scotland

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1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census
7, Market Street, Middle Church, East Greenock, Renfrewshire, Scotland

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Joseph McGinnes Head Married Male 30 1861 General labourer Greenock, Renfrewshire, Scotland
Margaret McGinnes Wife Married Female 32 1859 - Greenock, Renfrewshire, Scotland
Mary McGinnes Daughter Unmarried Female 12 1879 Scholar Greenock, Renfrewshire, Scotland
John McGinnes Son Unmarried Male 4 1887 - Greenock, Renfrewshire, Scotland
Mary McGinnes Grandmother Widow Female 69 1822 - Greenock, Renfrewshire, Scotland
John McGinnes Brother Unmarried Male 22 1869 Labourer Greenock, Renfrewshire, Scotland


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1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census
7, Market Street, Greenock, Greenock East, Renfrewshire, Scotland

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Joseph McGinnes Head Married Male 43 1858 Quay labourer Greenock, Renfrewshire, Scotland
Margaret McGinnes Wife Married Female 43 1858 - Greenock, Renfrewshire, Scotland
Margaret McGinnes Daughter Single Female 21 1880 Flax mill worker Greenock, Renfrewshire, Scotland
John McGinnes Son - Male 13 1888 Scholar Greenock, Renfrewshire, Scotland
Joseph McGinnes Son - Male 9 1892 Scholar Greenock, Renfrewshire, Scotland





ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 5 Apr 2024 18:28

Joseph McGinnis
in the 1881 Scotland Census
Name Joseph McGinnis
Age 23
Estimated Birth Year abt 1858
Relationship Son
Father's Name Barnerd McGinnis
Mother's Name Mary McGinnis
Gender Male
Where born Greenock, Renfrew Shire
Registration Number 564/1
Registration district Greenock Middle
Civil parish Greenock Middle
County Renfrewshire
Address Langwell Close 4th Stair
Occupation Quay Labour
ED 6
Household schedule number 21
Line 3
Roll cssct1881_164
Household Members (Name) Age Relationship
Barnerd McGinnis 65 Head
Mary McGinnis 60 Wife
Joseph McGinnis 23 Son
Johr McGinnis 13 Son
Sam Dallas 4 Boarder


Joseph McGinnes
in the 1891 Scotland Census
Name Joseph McGinnes
Age 30
Estimated Birth Year abt 1861
Relationship Head
Spouse's Name Margaret McGinnes
Gender Male
Where born Greenock, Renfrewshire
Registration Number 564/1
Registration district Greenock East
Civil parish Greenock Middle
Town Greenock
County Renfrewshire
Address 7 Market St
Occupation General Labourer
ED 7
Household schedule number 31
Line 7
Roll CSSCT1891_179
Household Members (Name) Age Relationship
Joseph McGinnes 30 Head
Margaret McGinnes 32 Wife
Mary McGinnes 12 Daughter
John McGinnes 4 Son
Mary McGinnes 69 Grandmother [???]
John McGinnes 22 Brother


Joseph Mcginnes
in the 1901 Scotland Census
Name Joseph Mcginnes
Age 43
Estimated Birth Year abt 1858
Relationship Head
Spouse's Name Margaret Mcginnes
Gender Male
Where born Renfrew, greenock co
Registration Number 564/1
Registration district Greenock East
Civil parish Greenock Middle
County Renfrewshire
Address 7 Market St
Occupation Quay Labourer
ED 7
Household schedule number 43
Line 23
Roll CSSCT1901_193
Household Members (Name) Age Relationship
Joseph Mcginnes 43 Head
Margaret Mcginnes 43 Wife
Margaret Mcginnes 27 Daughter
John Mcginnes 13 Son
Joseph Mcginnes 9 Son

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 5 Apr 2024 18:30

Likely marriage:

MCGINNES, JOSEPH
SHARKIE, MARGARET
1881
564 / 3 / 253
Greenock Old or West

greyghost

greyghost Report 5 Apr 2024 18:32


Surname Forename Spouse Surname Spouse Forename Year Ref RD Name
MCGINNES JOSEPH SHARKIE MARGARET 1881 564 / 3 / 253 GREENOCK OLD OR WEST

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 5 Apr 2024 18:46

Possibly why Bernard isn't with Mary and Joseph in 1861 ??

Bernard McGinnes
in the Web: Scotland, Prison Records Index, 1828-1878
Name Bernard McGinnes
Gender Male
Age 42
Birth Date 1819
Birth Place Glasgow; Barony; Gorbals; Govan, Lanarkshire; Renfrewshire, Scotland
Residence Place Greenock
Imprisonment Date 1861
Imprisonment Place Greenock, Renfrewshire
Prison Greenock
Occupation Labourer

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 5 Apr 2024 18:56

Possibly Joseph's mother Mary before marriage ??

I don't see a record of her marriage to Bernard - if they did marry.
Joseph's birth cert would clarify that.

Mary Johnston
in the 1851 Scotland Census
Name Mary Johnston
Age 22
Estimated Birth Year abt 1829
Relationship Lodger
Gender Female
Where born Greenock, Renfrew
Parish Number 564
Civil parish Greenock Middle
Town Greenock
County Renfrewshire
Address 51 Shaw Street
ED 32
Page 4
Household schedule number 15
Line 20
Roll CSSCT1851_118
Household Members (Name) Age Relationship
Alex Mcgregor 32 Head
Margt Mcgregor 36 Wife
Alexr Mcgregor 11 Son
William Mcgregor 7 Son
Andrew Mcgregor 5 Son
Margt Mcgregor 4 Daughter
Robert Mcgregor 1 Son
Elizabeth Mooney 21 Lodger
John Lang 20 Lodger
Mary Johnston 22 Lodger


But as her birth year is uncertain, that may not be her.