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Anyone got any Mysteries I could help with?? Threa

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♥Betty Boo from Dundee♥

♥Betty Boo from Dundee♥ Report 16 Apr 2006 20:04

Hi Zoe, Thanks so much for this:- 1st family 1901 1901 Living at Stone Street, Heworth Thomas Collins (Quarry labourer) abt 1883 Blackhill, Durham, England Brother-in-law?? Heworth Durham Bridget Mc Call abt 1876 Blackhill, Durham, England Wife Heworth Durham James Mc Call abt 1901 Windy Nook, Durham, England Son Heworth Durham John H Mc Call (Stone quarryman) abt 1871 Windy Nook, Durham, England Head Heworth Durham 2nd family 1901 Frederick Wharton abt 1900 Boston Spa, Yorkshire, England Son Boston Spa Yorkshire Mary Wharton abt 1873 Sherburn Hill, Durham, England Wife Boston Spa Yorkshire William Wharton abt 1876 Boston Spa, Berkshire, England Head Boston Spa Yorkshire Betty

Zoe

Zoe Report 16 Apr 2006 20:18

Sharon Do you have their childs birth cert to confirm Maria's maiden name? This looks like it maybe the marriage Name: George Warren Year of Registration: 1853 Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun District: Portsea Island (1837-1900) County: Hampshire Volume: 2b Page: 581 Maria Lodge on same page *if this is the right Maria you would then be able to order marriage cert and get fathers name of George if it was given*** Looks like George's bith cert *it says mitcheldean on the 1861 census* Name: George Jenkins Warren Year of Registration: 1860 Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun District: Westbury On Severn County: Gloucestershire Volume: 6a Page: 181 WESTBURY ON SEVERN REGISTRATION DISTRICT Registration County : Gloucestershire. Created : 1.7.1837. Sub-districts : East Dean; Huntley; Newsham. GRO volumes : XI (1837-51); 6a (1852-1930). Parishes in Gloucestershire (1837-1930): Abenhall, Awre, Blaisdon, Bulley, Churcham, East Dean, Flaxley, Hinders Lane and Dockham, Huntley, Lea Bailey (from 1890), Littledean, Longhope, Minsterworth, **Mitcheldean***, Newnham, Westbury on Severn. Registers now divided between Forest of Dean and Gloucester districts. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Do you have his death cert if so who registered him? This is Maria remarried in 1871 Maria Lane abt 1838 Isle of Wight, Brading Wife Portsea Hampshire William Lane abt 1843 Sautry, Huntingdonshire, England Head Portsea Hampshire George J Warren abt 1860 Mitcheldean, Gloucestershire, England Son-in-law Portsea Hampshire Hubert E Warren abt 1867 Portsea, Hampshire, England Son-in-law Portsea Hampshire William T Warren abt 1862 Portsea, Hampshire, England Son-in-law Portsea Hampshire ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Marias 2nd marriage ref Name: Maria Warren Year of Registration: 1869 Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun District: Portsea Island (1837-1900) County: Hampshire Volume: 2b Page: 735 William Cole Lake on same page ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Name: Hubert E Warren Year of Registration: 1866 Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep District: Portsea Island (1837-1900) County: Hampshire Volume: 2b Page: 390 Name: William John Warren Year of Registration: 1862 Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun District: Portsea Island (1837-1900) County: Hampshire Volume: 2b Page: 372 You might also want to ask for a 1841 lookup for George as he would only be 6/7/8 Zoe

Zoe

Zoe Report 16 Apr 2006 20:29

Betty For instance if they stayed in the same area Births Jun 1898 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- WHARTON Frederick William Wetherby 9a 126 WHARTON Marjorie Wetherby 9a 124 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Births Dec 1900 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Wharton Frederick William Wetherby 9a 114 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Births Mar 1902 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Wharton Isabel Cecilia Wetherby 9a 110 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Births Jun 1903 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Wharton George Edward Wetherby 9a 117 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Births Jun 1904 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Wharton John Aldridge Wetherby 9a 132 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Births Sep 1906 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Wharton Benigna Elizabeth Wetherby 9a 121 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Births Mar 1907 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Wharton Norah Wetherby 9a 113 WETHERBY REGISTRATION DISTRICT Registration County : Yorkshire West Riding. Created : 1.7.1854 (previously part of Knaresborough district).. Sub-districts : Boston; Wetherby GRO volumes : 9a (1854-1930) Parishes in Yorkshire West Riding (1854-1930): Angram, Bardsey with Rigton, Bickerton, Bilton, **********Boston Spa (from 1869)*********, Bramham cum Oglethorpe (from 1869), Bramhope, Cattal (May-Jun 1861), Clifford (from 1869), Collingham (from 1869), Cowthorp, Dunkeswick (from 1869), East Keswick, Great Ribston with Walshford (May-Jun 1861), Harewood (from 1869), Healaugh, Hunsingore (May-Jun 1861), Hutton Wandesley (from 1869), Kearby with Netherby, Kirkby Overblow, Kirk Deighton (May-Jun 1861), Linton, Little Ribston, Long Marston (from 1869), Micklethwaite, North Deighton, Pool, Rigton, Scarcroft, Shadwell (from 1869), Sicklinghall, Spofforth with Stockeld, Swinden, Thorner (from 1869), Thornville (May-Jun 1861), Thorp Arch (from 1869), Tockwith (from 1869), Walton (from 1869), Weardley, Weeton (from 1869), Wetherby, Wighill, Wigton, Wilstrop (from 1869), Wothersome, Wyke. Registers now divided between Leeds, North Yorkshire and York districts. Obviously you don't know which are yours but as I said after 1911 the MMN is shown so it makes it easier Zoe

Jennifer

Jennifer Report 16 Apr 2006 20:34

Hi again Zoe, Sorry for the delay in replying. I have been visiting my grandchildren. Re the HEWITTS. No, I simply can't find any of them in 1861. I am beginning to wonder if the census for wherever they were is missing. Jenny

♥Betty Boo from Dundee♥

♥Betty Boo from Dundee♥ Report 16 Apr 2006 20:38

Hi Zoe, Thanks so much for all the information, can I do this on Ancestry for free or would I have to pay a subscription. You have been so much help, anytime you want a Scottish lookup just contact me, I usually have a few credits to spare on ScotlandsPeople and I would like to be able to give you something back for all your help. Betty

Zoe

Zoe Report 16 Apr 2006 21:04

Betty Upto about 1915ish depending on name and place it maybe on http://freebmd.rootsweb*com/ these are not fully transcribed as yet. You can look through the GRO index(scans of the pages) for free on Ancestry goto homepage and scroll down under the main search box next to list of census years you should see BMDs BETA click on that and enter Births enter surname and years then search through. Remember to note if there are any quarters missing as there are a few Happy hunting!! Zoe

Sharon

Sharon Report 16 Apr 2006 21:24

HI ZOE, THANKS VERY MUCH FOR ALL THE INFO, I THINK I WILL HAVE TO ORDER GEORGE AND MARIAS' MARRIAGE CERTIFICATE TO FIND OUT WHO HIS FATHER WAS ,OR DO YOU THINK HIS BIRTH CERT WOULD BE BETTER? ONCE AGAIN THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR ALL YOUR HARD WORK WITH REGARDS SHARON

Zoe

Zoe Report 16 Apr 2006 21:30

Sharon Its a choice really the second marriage cert you know is definatly her ~ better to be safe than sorry!! So then you would have fathers name on there if it is Lodge then I would order the first marriage cert to George Warren. Or you could order the childs birth cert it's up to you Please get back to me and tell me the outcome Good luck Zoe

michelle squires

michelle squires Report 16 Apr 2006 21:34

HI ZOE THANKS FOR YOUR OFFER OF HELP I WAS WONDERING IF YOU COULD SEARCH THE FOLLOWING FOR ME PLEASE. I HAVE A MARRIAGE CERT OF JOHN JONES WHO MARRIED MARY ANN FARR ON 22/10/1877 IN THE PARISH OF BETHNAL GREEN MIDDLESEX AND WOULD LIKE TO KNOW THE MOTHER'S MAIDEN NAME OF MARY ANN FARR I KNOW HER FATHER'S NAME WAS HENRY I ALSO HAVE A MARRIAGE CERT OF EMILY ELIZABETH TURNER WHO MARRIED WALTER HENRY ANDREWS 22/05/1907 AT WEST HAM REGISTER OFFICE WHICH CAME UNDER ESSEX AT THAT TIME I HAVE AN ADDRESS OF 9 EVE RD, WEST HAM EMILY'S FATHER IS WILLIAM (DECEASED) AT THE TIME OF MARRIAGE WOULD LIKE TO KNOW EMILY'S MOTHER'S MAIDEN NAME AND WHERE SHE WAS BORN THIS IS THE MOST DIFFICULT ONE I HAVE A DEBORAH LINGARD(FORMERLY LANE) WHO REGISTERED THE BIRTH OF HER SON ARTHUR LINGARD (BORN 18/02/1881) AT REGISTRATION DISTRICT ST GEORGE IN THE EAST, SUB DISTRICT OF ST MARY IN THE COUNTY OF MIDDLESEX I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHERE DEBORAH LANE CAME FROM I CAN'T FIND HER ANY WHERE HOPE YOU CAN HELP THANKYOU MICHELLE P.S. IM PRETTY NEW TO THIS COULD YOU PLEASE TELL ME WHAT LDS MEANS

Zoe

Zoe Report 17 Apr 2006 00:09

Michelle LDS means Later Day Saints you can find out about this at www.familysearch.org Can you give me the ages of the people who were married please.~Without ages I can't do much Who is Arthur Lingard's father and his occ please? Is it Alfred? What were the addresses on all certs? Deborah & Arthur Lingard 1891 57 Grove Street Head is a Jobbing Bricklayer Alfred Lingard abt 1843 Mile End, London, England Head St George in the East London Arthur Lingard abt 1882 ST George in the East, London, England Son St George in the East London Deborah Lingard abt 1843 Devon, England Wife St George in the East London Lousia Lingard abt 1872 ST George in the East, London, England Daughter St George in the East London Rose Lingard abt 1884 ST George in the East, London, England Daughter St George in the East London Zoe

Raymond

Raymond Report 17 Apr 2006 00:59

Hi Zoe could you help with Sarah Jane Richardson b abt 1851 in Whitehaven Father John and in 1861 cheers and thanks once again Ann

michelle squires

michelle squires Report 17 Apr 2006 02:48

hi zoe thanks for replying ARTHUR LINGARD'S parents are DEBORAH LANE and ALFRED LINGARD(house painter) the address on the birth cert of ARTHUR is 13 john st, i want to find info on DEBORAH LANE ie; her parents names, any siblings etc MARY ANN FARR married JOHN JONES john's age is given as 19 and mary's as 20 their father's occ FREDERICK JONES(? salesman) and HENRY FARR(bootmaker) address on cert is 4 gloucester square, would like info on MARY'S PARENTS. EMILY ELIZABETH TURNER (age 20) married WALTER HENRY ANDREWS (age 21) father's names are WILLIAM TURNER(blacksmith) and JOHN ANDREWS(general labourer) both father's are listed as deceased on the marriage cert address is 9 eve rd, west ham would like to know the emily's mother's name and where they were from thanks ever so much zoe michelle

Lisa

Lisa Report 17 Apr 2006 02:54

Hi Zoe, Here is the info I have. On my grandmothers (Ellen Margaret FOOT born 1903)birth cert. Father: Frederick William FOOT ( born 1868 in Pancras, let's call him Fred jnr) occupation Electric Cable Linesman. Mother: Kate FOOT nee CLEMENTS nee HEAD (born 1869 in dorking) address Norwood, Uxbridge. 1901 census Frederick William FOOT (let's call him Fred Snr.) b1842 in Pancras, occupation Organ Builder. Wife- Marguerite Alexandrine FOOT nee BROWN c1847 in Bow Surrey. addresss 42 Tunis Rd Hammersmith parish. plus children George & Alfred, Fred jnr is not there in 1901 census. Can't find him. Kate CLEMENTS nee HEAD who is widowed in 1900, is at home with father Charles HEAD at Dorking, Surrey in 1901 census. Kate & Fred jnr must get married between 1900 & 1903, have Ellen(1903) then William Frederick (1905). Kate dies at childbirth in 1905 and Frederick W. jnr disaapears forever! Kate is buried as Kate FOOT in Southall. on freebmd, in March 1903 Kingston a Kate CLEMENTS is listed. She is one of 5 people on the page, usually even numbers of 2 or 4 are listed as they make up a couple. hope this helps, cheers Lisa

Elizabeth

Elizabeth Report 17 Apr 2006 03:11

Hello Zoe, Thanks for the kind offer. My biggest mystery is where people get their info from. I'm in Australia but find it difficult to get out. Can you give me any websites I could subscribe to or thing I could buy. I use Family search and all the free ones. My second mystery is the KETLEY family. James and Eliza (Ayley). Son William born Oct 1852 Good Easter, Essex. Anyway of finding any other children or what happened to James and Eliza. William came to Australia in 1874 so I have him. If you solve my first mystery I might be able to do the second myself. Thanks.

GinaS

GinaS Report 17 Apr 2006 10:02

Hi Zoe, Many thanks for the info about the Electoral Rolls, will give them a go. Without people like yourself Zoe, I would still be up my Tree without a Ladder!!! Really appreciate all your time and help. My Best Wishes to you, Georgina

BR

BR Report 17 Apr 2006 11:48

Zoe, This message has disappeared for the 2nd time !!! Boards are playing up. Will try again later, if still no joy then will send as an e-mail. Apologies.

BR

BR Report 17 Apr 2006 11:48

Zoe, This message has disappeared for the 2nd time !!! Boards are playing up. Will try again later, if still no joy then will send as an e-mail. Apologies.

BR

BR Report 17 Apr 2006 16:09

Hi Zoe, I hope it will be 3rd time lucky ! The 1861 Census shows William and George Phipps, as sons of Robert & Sarah. Robert was 21 years of age and as William was born 1846 and George in 1851 then they were clearly not his sons. Presume he was a relative (cousin) as all the males were born in St Clement Danes. The address was 52 Chapter St. William's birth certificate gives the family address as 10 Milford Lane in the Sub-district of St.Clement Danes and his father shown as a Coal Porter (makes a change from all the Ag-Labs !). William's marriage certificate (September 1867) also states same occupation for father who was deceased; William's address by then was Houghton St, Clare Market. He was married by Banns at St Clement Danes. No certificates yet for George but he was shown living with William and his family in 1871, marrying in December 1872 at St.Clement Danes then in 1881 was on Census for Walthamstow where he claimed he was born in Bethnal Green ! The Robert Phipps I am looking for appears to have died June 1855 in the Strand area and IGi has thrown up a Robert Skinner Phips (different spelling) born Jan 1811 in St Clement Danes plus a Rebecca Elizabeth Clark (also different spelling) born Aug 1811 in St Martin in the Fields. There are so many Phipps/Phips/Fipps/Phibbs etc. all in this Strand area of Westminster a new pair of eyes might solve it. I sincerely hope so and will be eternally grateful, as the saying goes, if you do. MAny thanks, Brenda.

Zoe

Zoe Report 18 Apr 2006 10:46

Hi there Have been rather busy this weekend so apologise for the delay will catch up later today after my appointments Zo xx

Chris

Chris Report 18 Apr 2006 11:42

hi hi from new zealand looking for history of edith hayes born 1881 think her full name was edith jane hayes moved to australia early 1900s son named ralph