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Thanks for looking for Humphreys for me Jane, I suppose Humphreys is a bit like Smith in England, I'm not knowledgeable about Wales at all, all i know is Wrexham is in North East Wales.David is proving very ellusive he's shown as born in Wales His children were born in Staffs and he ended up living in East London. Appreciate your looking for me though. All the best Regards Michael Jane iv'e just seen that Wrexham came under Denbighshire,Flintshire also came under Denbighshire, Michael

Linda, have even tried in Co. Durham for you too....... but still nothing sorry :o(( Jx

Michael, you wouldn't believe how common David Humphreys is in Wales, lol have had a look for them in both Wales & Shropshire, but can't pinpoint them yet......... am struggling to find Wrexham at all........ Clwyd isn't one of the counties listed, have the likes of Carmarthen, Monmouthshire, Flintshire, Cardiganshire, Pembrokeshire etc, do you know which one Wrexham would be under??? will have another look if you do...... Jx

Hello Jane, can you look on 1841 census for David Humphreys (Humphries) b abt 1820 i only know he was born in Wales. and his wife Ann Humphreys b abt 1822 in Oswestry Shropshire they were married in Wrexham in March 1841 so i'm hoping they will be together when census was taken, Ann's maiden name was Francis.Regards Michael

Hi Jane, Yes they should be together Mother and two Sons. Everything to do with them is Northumberland. I do have them in 1851 living in Witton Gilbert, County Durham, by then Mary had remarried and her name was Doole. By 1861 Joseph had returned to his birthplace of Seghill Northumberland and married. Really strange as I can't find any records about them. Many thanks for looking for me. Linda

Linda.. am struggling !!! i've been looking for these 3 together , is this correct?? also in the 1841, it doesn't give birthplace, only civil parish that they are in, making it more difficult !! have seen Joseph was in Backworth / Buckworth after 1871, which parish would this be in? or do you know which parish they should be in? have tried all the spelling of Grey too :o((( Jx

Tracy, yes you could ring them or do they have a website? they might take email enquiries too, or site will tell you if they will do look ups for you, most of them do !!! they might charge you to do it, but if you do have a relative happy to go for you even better !!! it might be worth getting them to check baptisms too, you never know !!! good luck xxxxxx Jx

Hi Ruth right: 1851, Neen farm Mary Childs abt 1835 Shropshire, England Servant Neen Savage Shropshire Thomas Mantle abt 1825 Cleobury Mortimer, Shropshire, England Servant Neen Savage Shropshire Charlotte Millichap abt 1814 Stoke St Milborough, Shropshire, England Servant Neen Savage Shropshire Joseph Wheeler abt 1805 Cleobury Mortimer, Shropshire, England Head Neen Savage Shropshire FARMER OF 70 ACRES & MILLER 1841 Detton Mill, neen Hannah Wheeler abt 1816 Shropshire, England Neen Savage Shropshire Joseph Wheeler abt 1806 Shropshire, England Neen Savage Shropshire MILLER No sign of Sarah & Jane though, could they be married by then? did find these though....... 1851 John Wheeler abt 1783 Cleobury, Shropshire, England Servant Corely Shropshire Miller, Widow 1841 Edward Wheeler abt 1821 Shropshire, England Cleobury Mortimer Shropshire MILLER Ellen Wheeler abt 1776 Shropshire, England Cleobury Mortimer Shropshire

Hi again Tracy, ah yes, that does sound familiar............... so you have Dorothy's marriage certificate, but no fathers name is listed..... i would imagine if it was the case that she didn't know her fathers name, she couldn't name him when she was married herself, and 99 % sure that if you found the birth certificate, it would also have no father listed, esp if this solicitor was married to someone else !!! don't think baptism records are going to be much use to you either, but one thing you could try is bastardy bonds..... they are usually kept at local records offices, and i believe its like a CSA type thing concerning unmarried mothers, they usually name the father if he is contributing to the childs upkeep. worth a try, eh? Jx

Hi Jane, Thank you for your offer. I am interested in the 1841 census for the following:- Mary Grey Born: c.1793 Northumberland Joseph Grey Born: 1831 Seghill Northumberland William Grey Born: 1834 Newcastle. My Grateful thanks, Linda

Hello Jane please would you have a look on the 1841/51 census for Joseph Wheeler 1805 cleobury Mortimer shropshire Sarah Wheeler 1810 cleobury Mortimer shropshire and Jane Wheeler 1812 cleobury Mortimer shropshire I know their parents are John and Eleanor Wheeler thank you ruth

Tracy, my memory is terrible, if you wouldn't mind posting me what info you have, where you have tried etc again. and i'll have another look at it for you....... Jx

Hi Rita, now, not sure if this is your Phoebe....... 1881 Wellington Place, Nottingham Caroline Drake abt 1854 Eastwood, Nottinghamshire, England Wife Eastwood Nottinghamshire Eliza Drake Eastwood, Nottinghamshire, England Daughter Eastwood Nottinghamshire Harriet Drake abt 1874 Eastwood, Nottinghamshire, England Daughter Eastwood Nottinghamshire ****Phoebe Drake abt 1875 Eastwood, Nottinghamshire, England Daughter Eastwood Nottinghamshire Sarah Drake abt 1878 Eastwood, Nottinghamshire, England Daughter Eastwood Nottinghamshire William Drake abt 1852 Kinoulton, Nottinghamshire, England Head Eastwood Nottinghamshire 1891, 12 Tins / Fins yard, Nottingham Annie Drake abt 1888 Radford, Nottinghamshire, England Daughter Radford Nottinghamshire Caroline Drake abt 1853 Eastwood, Nottinghamshire, England Wife Radford Nottinghamshire Eliza Drake abt 1881 Eastwood, Nottinghamshire, England Daughter Radford Nottinghamshire Mary Drake abt 1883 Radford, Nottinghamshire, England Daughter Radford Nottinghamshire ***Phoebe Drake abt 1875 Eastwood, Nottinghamshire, England Daughter Radford Nottinghamshire Sarah Drake abt 1877 Eastwood, Nottinghamshire, England Daughter Radford Nottinghamshire William Drake abt 1852 Kinoulton, Nottinghamshire, England Head Radford Nottinghamshire YES......... have now decided it is !!! Marriages Jun 1896 ---------------------------- Drake Phoebe Nottingham 7b 443 Evans Edmond Nottingham 7b 443 Births Mar 1875 ------------------------ Drake Phoebe Ann Basford 7b 136 1901 388 Whitemoor rd, Bullwell Edmond Evans abt 1865 Alfreton, Derbyshire, England Head Nottingham Nottinghamshire BLACKSMITH Edna Maud Evans abt 1898 Nottingham, Nottinghamshire, England Daughter Nottingham Nottinghamshire Emma Jane Evans abt 1900 Nottingham, Nottinghamshire, England Daughter Nottingham Nottinghamshire Phoebe Evans abt 1873 Eastwood, Nottinghamshire, England Wife Nottingham Nottinghamshire 1891, 420 Whitemoor rd, Bullwell Edmond Evans abt 1865 Alfreton, Derbyshire, England Son Basford Nottinghamshire Mary A Evans abt 1824 Derbyshire, England Wife Basford Nottinghamshire William Evans abt 1822 Derbyshire, England Head Basford Nottinghamshire BLACKSMITH 1881, 17 Whitemoor Emme E. Aldred Basford, Nottinghamshire, England Granddaughter Basford Nottinghamshire John Aldred abt 1878 Basford, Nottinghamshire, England Grandson Basford Nottinghamshire Patience Aldred abt 1857 Alfreton, Derbyshire, England Daughter Basford Nottinghamshire Joseph Bentley abt 1864 Derbyshire, England Lodger Basford Nottinghamshire Edmund Evans abt 1865 Alfreton, Derbyshire, England Son Basford Nottinghamshire COAL MINER Mary A. Evans abt 1825 NK, Wife Basford Nottinghamshire William Evans abt 1826 NK, Head Basford Nottinghamshire COAL MINER 1871 Whitemoor, Basford Edmund C Evans abt 1864 Alfreton, Yorkshire, England Son Basford Nottinghamshire Elizabeth Evans abt 1851 Masley, Nottinghamshire, England Daughter Basford Nottinghamshire Mary Evans abt 1821 Wershton, Derbyshire, England Wife Basford Nottinghamshire Patience Evans abt 1857 Bomeattles, Derbyshire, England Daughter Basford Nottinghamshire William Evans abt 1819 Wershton, Derbyshire, England Head Basford Nottinghamshire William Evans abt 1859 Arillea Hill, Nottinghamshire, England Son Basford Nottinghamshire 1861 nesbet row, Alfreton Ann Evans abt 1844 Donisthorpe, Leicestershire, England Daughter Alfreton Derbyshire Elizabeth Evans abt 1852 Greasley, Derbyshire, England Daughter Alfreton Derbyshire Emma Evans abt 1853 Alfreton, Derbyshire, England Daughter Alfreton Derbyshire Lelemat Evans abt 1845 Wingfield, Derbyshire, England Daughter Alfreton Derbyshire Maria Evans abt 1854 Alfreton, Derbyshire, England Daughter Alfreton Derbyshire Mary Evans abt 1824 Wingfield, Derbyshire, England Wife Alfreton Derbyshire Patience Evans abt 1856 Alfreton, Derbyshire, England Daughter Alfreton Derbyshire Rosella Evans abt 1849 Grassmoor, Derbyshire, England Daughter Alfreton Derbyshire William Evans abt 1822 Wingfield, Derbyshire, England Head Alfreton Derbyshire COAL MINER William Evans abt 1860 Alfreton, Derbyshire, England Son Alfreton Derbyshire Hope that helps but a bit more meat on the bones, feel free to ask if you want more though, Jane x

Sorry - and thanks! Phoebe Anne Evans (nee Drake). b.1870, died 18.8.1933 (63yrs). Lived Carsington Place, Nottingham. She had ?6 children. We've got no more info apart from they lived in Wales originall - mum's the only remaining relative (Rita Watson) and she'd be really chuffed to find out any more info so we could pick up a thread. Thanks!

Hi Jane thanks shes the one i was looking at but im not sure if she is one of mine or not . i have taken all the details just in case they are . many thanks Debbie

Hi Debbie hope this is your Florence: 1901 109 gt eastern st, shoreditch Ada Bill abt 1885 London, England Daughter Shoreditch London Cecelia Bill abt 1861 London, England Wife Shoreditch London Florence Bill abt 1882 London, England Daughter Shoreditch London Lilian Bill abt 1896 London, England Daughter Shoreditch London Olive Bill abt 1894 London, England Daughter Shoreditch London Thomas Bill abt 1891 London, England Son Shoreditch London Thomas H Bill abt 1855 Birmingham Head Shoreditch London ENGINEER Nathaniel Halls abt 1871 London, England Boarder Shoreditch London

Hi Jane if it is possible can you please try to find Florence Maud Bill Born 1884 at Shoreditch i dont know where she was living or with who but she married in 1902 at Holborn .Can you look on the 1901 please thank you Debbie

Hi again Avril no definates again, but do have these close by: Matthew Stead abt 1791 Yorkshire, England Halifax Yorkshire Matthias Stead abt 1786 Yorkshire, England Bramley Ward Yorkshire Mattw Stead abt 1801 Yorkshire, England Leeds Yorkshire Matthias Stead abt 1776 Yorkshire, England Bolton Percy Yorkshire do any of them look right? Jx

THANKS JANE- THATS SOLVED A LITTLE OF ONE MYSTERY RE THOMAS BORN 1775 I REALLY DONT KNOW WHAT HAPPENED TO THOMAS B.1800 - I WILL SEE IF I CAN DIG A BIT DEEPER I ALSO HAVE A MATHEW ( MATTHEW) STEAD CHRISTENED IN 1788 - BORN INGLETON/ CHAPEL LE DALE CAN YOU FIND HIM PLEASE THANKS FOR YOUR HELP

Hi Avril, thanks for your shopping list, lol heres 1 of the Thomas' i believe address just given as Tunstall, Elizabeth Stead abt 1771 Tunstall Lancashire Thomas Stead abt 1773 Tunstall Lancashire MALTSTER neither of them born in the county but as for the others, nothing i'm afraid, i can understand Jenny & James, as they would be knocking on a bit by then, but Thomas jnr ??? do you have him in a later census? do you have a wife or children i could perhaps search for ?