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Hi Can you please look up William Hands and his wife Ann from Hanbury worcester both born about 1785, their children seemed to end up in Birmingham i wonder if they are still around in 1851. many many thanks Barbara

Hi Rita, I couldn't find a Walter Marney, or any variations of the name, but came up with these Marneys, could they be related? Name Relationship Mar Age Sex Occupation Birthplace Richard MARNEY Head M 54 M Gun Stocker London-Mid Ann MARNEY Wife M 46 F --- Sawbridgeworth-Hef Address: Bk Of 54 Harding St, --- Census Place: Birmingham Birmingham, Warwickshire PRO Reference: HO/107/2058 Folio: 765 Page: 44 FHL Film: 0332120 --------------------------------------------------------------------- I then tried all Walters born 1834 +/- 1 year, and came up with this, possibly a transcription error? Name Relationship Mar Age Sex Occupation Birthplace Henry HADEN Head M 32 M Leather Seller Assistant Tower Hawlets-MID Elizabeth HADEN Wife M 26 F 9490 St Luke s-MID Rosa HADEN Daur - 3 F 1095 Bloomsbury-MID Amelia HADEN Daur - 10m F 300 Birmingham-WAR Walter MALBY Vist U 16 M No Occupation St Luke s-MID Address: 8 Worcester Street, Birmingham Census Place: Birmingham Birmingham, Warwickshire PRO Reference: HO/107/2055 Folio: 341 Page: 18 FHL Film: 0087314 ---------------------------------------------------------------- Hope this helps, Nicola

Yeah I have, from 1871 to 1901. He is a complete mystery. Found out from some kind people he died in 1905 in Cornwall. Fern.

Hi Fern, Have you found Samuel on the 1901 and 1881 census returns? Nicola

Thanks Nicola, Patience, Isaac and the last Jane Williams were all correct. No-one can seem to find Samuel anywhere I can't order his birth certificate because he was born JUST before certificates were introduced. Have ordered his marriage certificate in 1867, but what else can I don I nee some help I think. Thanks again, Fern.

Hi Fern, I couldn't find a Samuel Govier (or any varient of his surname) and could only find one of each of the others that you asked for, though the ages don't match... Name Relationship Mar Age Sex Occupation Birthplace John PARSONS Head M 41 M Innkeeper 45 Acres Employing 4 Lab Warbstow-Cornwall Betsy PARSONS Wife M 31 F Innkeepers Wife Lidford-Devon H. D. G. PARSONS Son - 10 M --- Stowford-Devon Ina PARSONS Son - 6 M --- Thrushelton-Devon S. PARSONS Son - 4 M --- Thrushelton-Devon W. PARSONS Son - 1 M --- Thrushelton-Devon C. T. PARSONS Son - 4 M --- Thrushelton-Devon Susanna PHILLIPS Vist U 29 F Farmers Dau Lidford-Devon Thomas BROWNE Vist M 39 M Licensed Hawker Nethill-Leicestershire Elizabeth BROWNE Vist M 34 F Licensed Hawkers Wife Derby Burness (?)-Devon John GRANT Lodg U 21 M Miner Crediton-Devon John WILLIAMS Lodg U 21 M Miner Milton Abbott-Devon John BALL Serv U 20 M Ag Lab Thrushelton-Devon Mary Ann FRISE Serv U 17 F House Serv Lewtrenchard-Devon Patience PIPER Serv U 13 F House Serv Stowford-Devon Address: New Inn Public House, Tavistock Census Place: Thrushelton Tavistock, Devonshire PRO Reference: HO/107/1884 Folio: 373 Page: 4 FHL Film: 0221033 ------------------------------------------------------------------- Name Relationship Mar Age Sex Occupation Birthplace Roger PALMER Head M 32 M Farmer Of 180 Acres 1 Lab St Giles-DEV Grace PALMER Wife M 30 F Farmers Wife St Giles-DEV James PALMER Son - 2 M --- Milton Abbot-DEV Diabella DOIDGE Serv U 17 F House Serv Milton Abbot-DEV William NEAL Serv U 23 M Farm Lab Werrington-CON Isaac SQUIRES Serv U 20 M Farm Lab Lamerton-DEV Richard MILLS Serv U 18 M Farm Lab Milton Abbot-DEV William STANBURY Serv - 14 M Farm Lab Milton Abbot-DEV John MILMAN Serv - 16 M Farm Lab Milton Abbot-DEV Address: Uppaton, Tavistock Census Place: Milton Abbot Tavistock, Devonshire PRO Reference: HO/107/1884 Folio: 155 Page: 15 FHL Film: 0221033 -------------------------------------------------------------------- Name Relationship Mar Age Sex Occupation Birthplace Joseph WILLIAMS Head M 39 M Tailor Kenilworth-WAR Eliza WILLIAMS Wife M 35 F --- Aston Cantlow-WAR Henry WILLIAMS Son U 10 M --- Wootton-WAR Jane Ann WILLIAMS Daur U 9 F Scholar Wootton-WAR Mary WILLIAMS Daur U 8 F Scholar Wootton-WAR Joseph WILLIAMS Son U 7 M Scholar Wootton-WAR Robert WILLIAMS Son U 5 M Scholar Wootton-WAR Cecily WILLIAMS Daur U 3 F --- Wootton-WAR Eliza WILLIAMS Daur U 7 F --- Wootton-WAR Address: ---, Stratford On Avon Census Place: Wootton Wawen Stratford On Avon, Warwickshire PRO Reference: HO/107/2074 Folio: 721 Page: 35 FHL Film: 0087343 ------------------------------------------------------------------- Also found this Jane Williams of the correct age and birthplace: Name Relationship Mar Age Sex Occupation Birthplace John HEARN Head M 42 M Farmer of 6 acres Petrockstow-DEV Mary HEARN Wife M 53 F Farmers Wife Launceston-CON John HEARN Son - 9 M Scholar Lifton-DEV Jane WILLIAMS Serv U 15 F House Serv. Lifton-DEV Henry DOWN Son U 16 M Farmers Son Ashwater-DEV Thomas DOWN Son - 13 M --- Ashwater-DEV William DOWN Son - 11 M Scholar Ashwater-DEV Mary DOWN Daur - 9 F Scholar Ashwater-DEV John DOWN Son - 6 M Scholar Ashwater-DEV Maria DOWN Daur - 3 F --- Ashwater-DEV Mary A. LANGMAN Serv U 18 F House Servant Barnstaple-DEV Address: Thorndow, Tavistock Census Place: Lifton Tavistock, Devonshire PRO Reference: HO/107/1884 Folio: 281 Page: 16 FHL Film: 0221033 ------------------------------------------------------------------ Hope this helps, Nicola

Thanks Nicola for the info.Trying to work these Barretts out is driving me crackers.Its thanks to people like yourself that I can try and do it .Thanks again.Linda

Hi, Could you look up Samuel Govier born 1837 in Bideford, Devon. All I know is his father was called James (Govier can be spelt many different ways Goveyour, Goveyeur, Goveyear etc). Patience Piper born 1837 in Lewdown, Devon. Isaac Squires born 1826 in Buckland, Devon. Jane Ann Willams born 1836 in Lifton, Devon. Thank you. Fern.

Hi Linda, Name Relationship Mar Age Sex Occupation Birthplace Sarah BARRATT Head W 77 F Ag Lab Parish Relief Wootton Wawen-War Humphrey BARRATT Son U 37 M Ag Lab Packwood-War Address: Packwood Gullett, Solihull Census Place: Packwood Solihull, Warwickshire PRO Reference: HO/107/2071 Folio: 349 Page: 9 FHL Film: 0087335 --------------------------------------------------------------------- Name Relationship Mar Age Sex Occupation Birthplace Katherine BUSHELL Head W 73 F Annuitant Solihull-WAR Elizabeth BUSHELL Daur U 43 F Annuitant Knowle-WAR Joseph BARRATT Serv M 36 M Cow Man Packwood-WAR Dinah BARRATT Serv M 52 F House Servant Shellfield-WAR Address: Ivy Hall, Solihull Census Place: Solihull Solihull, Warwickshire PRO Reference: HO/107/2071 Folio: 223 Page: 8 FHL Film: 0087335 --------------------------------------------------------------------- Name Relationship Mar Age Sex Occupation Birthplace William BARRET Head M 41 M Ag Lab Packwood-WAR Sarah BARRET Wife M 33 F --- Edcott-GLS Esther BARRET Daur - 9 F --- Barston-WAR Ann BARRET Daur - 8 F --- Lapworth-WAR Mary BARRET Daur - 6 F --- Lapworth-WAR Eliza BARRET Daur - 4 F --- Lapworth-WAR Emma BARRET Daur - 1 F --- Lapworth-WAR Address: ---, Solihull Census Place: Lapworth Solihull, Warwickshire PRO Reference: HO/107/2071 Folio: 444 Page: 30 FHL Film: 0087335 ----------------------------------------------------------------------- These were the only Barretts that I could find in Packwood, hope this helps, Nicola

Hi Ian.You kindly looked for a Thomas Barrett a while back but was unable to find him.Could I ask you again to look for any Barretts living in Packwood or Packwood Gullett please.Many thanks Linda

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Glad to be of help Lizz! Nicola

Happy New Year-yes it is so far, thank you for finding my g.g. grandparents. Lizz

Hi Lizz, Name Relationship Mar Age Sex Occupation Birthplace John FARMER Head M 36 M Labourer In Coal Field Tamworth-Warwickshire Emma FARMER Wife M 27 F --- Burton On Trent-Staffordshire John FARMER Son - 11 M Scholar Tamworth-Warwickshire Thomas FARMER Son - 8 M Scholar Tamworth-Warwickshire Ann FARMER Daur - 6 F Scholar Tamworth-Warwickshire Elizabeth FARMER Daur - 4 F Scholar Wilnecote-Warwickshire William FARMER Son - 2 M --- Wilnecote-Warwickshire Emma FARMER Daur - 1 F --- Wilnecote-Warwickshire Address: Kettlebrook, Tamworth Census Place: (Tamworth) Wilnecote Tamworth, Warwickshire PRO Reference: HO/107/2013 Folio: 353 Page: 14 FHL Film: 0087416 --------------------------------------------------------------------- Name Relationship Mar Age Sex Occupation Birthplace Catherine FARMER Lodg(Head) W 60 F Hawker ----Ireland Thomas FARMER Son U 18 M Hawker ----Ireland Patrick FARMER Son U 14 M Brick Yard Lab ----Ireland Address: Gungate Street, --- Census Place: Tamworth Tamworth, Warwickshire PRO Reference: HO/107/2013 Folio: 174 Page: 20 FHL Film: 0087416 ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Name Relationship Mar Age Sex Occupation Birthplace Ellin GASCOINE Head W 63 F Garden Lab London-Middlesex Sarah MASON Lodg W 60 F Straw Hat Maker Alsten-Essex Mary FAULKNER Lodg W 59 F Hawker Birmingham-Warwick Darby FARMER Lodg U 28 M Bricklayers Servant ----Ireland Richard HEATH Lodg W 59 M Hawker Ashby-Leicester Address: Gungate Street, --- Census Place: Tamworth Tamworth, Warwickshire PRO Reference: HO/107/2013 Folio: 166 Page: 4 FHL Film: 0087416 --------------------------------------------------------------------- Name Relationship Mar Age Sex Occupation Birthplace Joseph FARMER Head W 70 M Retired Druggist Dosthill-War Address: Bolebridge Street, Tamworth Census Place: Tamworth Tamworth, Warwickshire PRO Reference: HO/107/2013 Folio: 196 Page: 35 FHL Film: 0087416 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Hope these are the ones you're looking for, Happy New Year, Nicola

Happy New Year, Nicola, Would it be possilbe for you to look up the Farmer family from Tamworth. WARWICKSHIRE, Thanks, Lizz

Hi Peter, I tried different varients of the surname, and this was the only one near: Name Relationship Mar Age Sex Occupation Birthplace William LILLY Head M 61 M Ag Lab Hingham-NFK Elizabeth LILLY Wife M 62 F --- Shipdham-NFK Hariet LILLY Daur U 29 F --- Hingham-NFK John LILLY GSon - 10 M --- Hingham-NFK Address: Baxter Row, Forehoe Census Place: Hingham Forehoe, Norfolk PRO Reference: HO/107/1817 Folio: 227 Page: 32 FHL Film: 0207470 --------------------------------------------------------------------- Hope this helps, Nicola

Hi Jon, There were lots in warwickshire, so here are the ones I could find in the parishes that you mentioned: Name Relationship Mar Age Sex Occupation Birthplace John ALEXANDER Head M 54 M Proprietor Of Houses Bradford-Wil Sarah ALEXANDER Wife M 60 F --- Leamington-War Harriette ALEXANDER Daur U 26 F --- Leamington-War H. J. ELLISTON Lodg U 49 M Professor Of Music Bath-Som Henry K. BAYLIS Lodg U 20 M Bookseller Bloxwich-Stf Address: 8 Mill St, Warwick Census Place: Leamington Priors Warwick, Warwickshire PRO Reference: HO/107/2072 Folio: 192 Page: 41 FHL Film: 0087337 ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Name Relationship Mar Age Sex Occupation Birthplace Elizabeth C. ALEXANDER Wife(Head) M 40 F --- --- (British Subject)-Ein Louise J. ALEXANDER Daur U 11 F Scholar At Home --- (British Subject)-Ein Alfred P. ALEXANDER Son - 6 M Scholar At Home --- (British Subject)-Ein Herbert J. ALEXANDER Son - 1 M --- --- (British Subject)-Ein Sophia ALTIE Serv U 49 F Housekeeper Warfield-Bek Eliza HAMMOND Serv U 21 F Cook Tunbridge Wells-Ken Sarah EVANS Serv U 22 F Housemaid New Raden-Rad Address: No 14 Clarendon Square, Warwick Census Place: Leamington Priors Warwick, Warwickshire PRO Reference: HO/107/2072 Folio: 549 Page: 5 FHL Film: 0087338 ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Hope this helps, Nicola

Thanks for looking Nicola .Appreciate it.Linda

hi, very vague info i know, but could you see if there are any Alexander family members in warwickshire, specifically Cubbington or Leamington (Priors). Thanks in anticipation, Jon.

Hi again Linda, Sorry but I can't find a Thomas and Hannah together in Packwood, or an Isaac Watson born around 1823. Nicola