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HELP PLEASE FOR MY FATHER....

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Dionne

Dionne Report 24 Nov 2007 18:43

Hello everyone.

Again a big thankyou for all of the information that you have all supplied.

I wrote a letter to Pamela Davis and sent it on the 8th November. I did think that she had died and I was hoping that her husband might answer but so far I havenot had a reply.

Sorry as with some of you I got the Edwin birth confused and I know we have been unable to find a birth registration for him.We have too many Edwins running about now,lol.

I will also check members trees later on for matches and send some messages.
I also wanted to tell you all that as of next Monday I start a fulltime job.I dont finish work untill 5.30pm so I will be unabe to read any postings or help with the search untill after 6.30pm so please dont think I am not responding to you all.

Thankyou so much everyone for your continued help and support.I really do feel that we are geting close now.

Dionne
xx

Moody Blue

Moody Blue Report 24 Nov 2007 17:32

I agree Ann, I dont think that he is the correct one.. Edwin W was born September 1911 and the other one is registered June 1911 middle initial C.

Brenda

was plain ann now annielaurie

was plain ann now annielaurie Report 24 Nov 2007 17:26

Moody Blue

Don't know whether Dianne means the cert someone found - see page 31. Don't think it's the right one, though, as probably Edwin junior was born in SA, and anyway, middle initials don't match.

Moody Blue

Moody Blue Report 24 Nov 2007 17:21

Dionne, where did you get the birth reference for Edwin's birth certificate (one born 1911) ? I thought it was unable to be found suggesting that he too may have been born South Africa.

Brenda

was plain ann now annielaurie

was plain ann now annielaurie Report 24 Nov 2007 17:16

Dionne

What brilliant news - I feel this may be the breakthrough!

I looked at the book about Royal Army Medical Corps at Kew today, to see if it gave any info about what they were doing in S Africa up to 1911, but it was useless, I'm afraid.

Selena in South East London

Selena in South East London Report 24 Nov 2007 13:01

Dionne, a member called Kim on this site has both Leonora and Frederick Pittuck in her tree.

Selena

Selena in South East London

Selena in South East London Report 24 Nov 2007 12:59

Do you have this? Leonora's birth I think:

Births Mar 1912

Pittuck Leonora I Rodgers Windsor 2c 837

sibling to Leonora?

Births Jun 1917
Pittuck Frederick G Rodgers Southampton 2c 8

Selena

WayneTracey

WayneTracey Report 24 Nov 2007 11:40

In case anyone is looking for Davis births i have done 3Q 1958, All of 1959 & 1960... which maybe only 2 years but it's 4 pages per quarter lol

& 1961
& 1962 ... i wish they'd hurry up and have kids...grrr

I've also done upto and inc 2Q 1963

Got to go out now.... being frogmarched shopping.... and i'm so warm and comfy here with my cuppa and the hunt for answers!!

WayneTracey

WayneTracey Report 24 Nov 2007 10:11

1st child...Pamela J Livermore, mmn Pittuck, Colchester, 4a 1285. 3Q 1936


Edit.... Thats the only child i can find.... wonder if something happened to him in the war?

Edit 2.... Can't find a military death or any other military births.

Edit 3... I have found this, Pamela J Livermore, married Howard R Davis, Ilford, 3Q 1958, 5a 996.

That name is not nearly popular enough... :-S

I have pm'd you...

another Edit....

Sorry Dionne.... I did a living relative search and found her upto 2003 with her hubby, who i might add is still at the address.... but her records stopped in 2003, i then found this.

about Pamela Janet Davis
Name: Pamela Janet Davis
Birth Date: 6 Feb 1935
Death Registration Month/Year: Nov 2002
Age at death (estimated): 67
Registration district: Havering
Inferred County: Essex
Register number: HA91
Entry Number: 135

Her hubby might know something? I just hate it when you find the end without finding answers....

Finding her children will be fun.... grrr

WayneTracey

WayneTracey Report 24 Nov 2007 10:07

Let me be the first to say OMG !!

..and wow...!!

So let the fun begin!

I would say coincidence doesn't have a part here... maybe he promoted his dad to make his cert look a bit better??

So what do we have as far as their children go? Do we have anything at all yet, or were we awaiting on the marriage cert?

...all excited..


Wayne

Dionne

Dionne Report 24 Nov 2007 09:52

Hi All

I have to shoot out in a little while but I had to post the information that I have received today.

It is the marriage certificate of the possible brother to Dorothea,Edwin.
As on certificate....

date of marriage..24th October 1935
register office District of Hendon,Middlesex
by Licence

Edwin William Livermore Bachelor aged 24
Leonora Isabel Pittuck Spinster aged 23

Profession
Edwin Leading Aircraftsman
RAF Camp
Upper Heyford
Oxford

Leonora
Domestic Servant
75 The Drive
Golders Green

Fathers Name and Profession

Edwin

EDWIN WILLIAM LIVERMORE (DECEASED)
SERGEANT
ROYAL ARMY MEDICAL CORPS

Leonora

Walter Pittuck (Deceased)
Groom Domestic

Can it be to much of a coincidence that Edwin's father is not the Edwin we are looking for.

The only difference is his rank in the Army. We have corporal on his records but on the marriage certificate it says Sergeant. I'm getting really excited about this one. I am hoping that on Monday we get the birth certificate of Edwin Junior.
I will reply to the rest of the postings later as I should have left my house ten minutes ago.

Bob thankyou for all of the information that you have supplied.

Dionne
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bob

bob Report 24 Nov 2007 01:46

Hi Dionne Marriages as found on FBMD
Alice ???? Livermore Langstone Barnet 1917 3a 611
Alice ???? " " Potter St Olave 1926 1d 207
Alice M??? " " Handley Gravesend 1912 2a 843
Alice M??? " " Mills Brentford 1922 3a 183
Alice M??? " " Tott Edmonton 1924 3a 884
Non of these marriages mention Maud, as a name so as far as I am concerned non are in her area of Maldon, was she a spinster, or did she marry late in life? FBMD only goes to 1924 so she could have married later?. There is a large concentration of Livermore,s in the Edmonton, West Ham area 1880/1920s I wonder if they are related . Also you have the Pittuck, Pinnuck & Puttick who married Livermore,s What a nightmare for Christmas cards>

Good Night from me BOB,.,.,

bob

bob Report 24 Nov 2007 01:23

Hi Dionne,if you agree that all the action,so to speak happened around Maldon, Essex, can we say that all or most of the Livermore,s came from Essex ? and moved around to Sussex , Middlesex, and Neasden, Middlesex, and Edmonton?, or is that a wild card. I Know that Clacton / possibly Walton on sea, they are very close, your Dad has a memory of 2 ladies there, do you know yet who they were?.
Perhaps letting people see your tree so far with the bits you are looking for would make some sense, you have as far as ime concerned the longest continuous thread, as at 0128 on24/11/07 35 pages
if only the guinness book of records were on line...
BOB<>...

Dionne

Dionne Report 23 Nov 2007 23:31

Hi Bob

I would agree with you with 1890.
All the family were born in Maldon,
Thankyou for searching for all of the information.
Dionne

bob

bob Report 23 Nov 2007 21:35

Births found for Alice.
Alice Maud Livermore Mar Q 1890 Maldon 4a507
Alice Maud " " Mar Q 1891 Strood 2a 563
Alice Maud " " Mar Q 1892 Coventry 6d 507
Alice M???? " " June Q 1903 Chesterton 3b 427

Marriages need checking for Alice Maud seem to have got 2 differant results from FBMD site ?
My money is on the 1890 being as Essex has been favoured in the past,
BOB,.,

bob

bob Report 23 Nov 2007 21:19

Dionne, Sorry I had some MISLEADING Infomation on my message by mistake I Will correct it later as soon as I check a couple of points,,BOB

Dionne

Dionne Report 23 Nov 2007 20:42

Hi

Can someone plese tell my why posts get deleted by the administrator or poster.I was just reading a message from Bob who posted some possible marriages of Alice.I went to reply and his post had gone!

Dionne

was plain ann now annielaurie

was plain ann now annielaurie Report 23 Nov 2007 19:24

That sounds great Dionne! Look forward to hearing what she has to say.

Dionne

Dionne Report 23 Nov 2007 19:21

Hi Ann

Thankyou for that. I am hoping that I have a very HOT lead. Found a match in my tree.Sarah Ann Harvey had a brother.This brother is the great grandfather of the lady I am talking too.She seems to know all about Sarah and Williams children and gave them to me before I even had the chance to confirm the names. I have emailed her back and am hoping that she might have some further information for me. I will keep you posted.
Dionne
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was plain ann now annielaurie

was plain ann now annielaurie Report 23 Nov 2007 18:59

Dionne

Alice M Livermore married a Mr Lewis at some stage, but the marriage hasn't been found yet. We don't know whether either of the 2 marriages to Handley and Tott were her. If one was her, then marriage to Mr Lewis was a second marriage!

I don't really think the death is for your Edwin. Details seem to fit the other man more, but there's no proof that it was either!