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Dionne & Selina. It wasnt what I was looking for I wanted to know where Pittuck fitted in,

Because I found these;
Agnes M Livermore
mmn Pinnuck
Bn Edmonton
Sept 1911 3a 1381

Frank W Livermore
mmn Pinnuck
Bn Edmonton
4th Q 1915 3a 1163

It was just that the Pittuck & Pinnuck coupled to Livermore were so similar,, BOB

Hi Brenda.

I have ordered the marriage certificate.
Dionne
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Ordering the marriage certificate of Livermore & Pittuck will allow you to confirm if he really is the son of Edwin senior and a brother to Dorothea and Constance. If he is, it will be interesting to see if he also has father as deceased.

Brenda.

Thankyou Bob,Brenda and Selena.

I have enough pennies to order three more certificates on the Livermores.

Do you think it would help if I were to order the marriage of Livermore to Pittuck? possible brother of Dorothea)

So far I have ordered the possible death of Edwin Livermore(Dorotheas father)

and

WIlliam and Sarah death certificates(parents of Edwin)

Dionne
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Bob, is this what you were looking for? Not sure if Dionne has ordered the marriage cert.

Marriage
Edwin W Livermore.....Leonora I Pittuck
Hendon
4th qtr 1935
vol 3a page 1345

Birth
Pamela J Livermore mmn Pittuck
Colchester
3rd qtr 1936
vol 4a page 1285

Selena

Dionne, I saw in one of your messagages, PITTUCK.
as a surname, Remind me again what it was about, your thread is like the doomsday book, lol, BOB...

Is this any help?

Births Jun 1911

LIVERMORE Edwin C A Fulham 1a 212

Selena

Hi Dionne,

I have brought forward the first thread mentioning Edwin W Livermore (possible son)

Contrary Mary
04/11/2007 17:55:32
Hi Dionne
I found this death which I think could be a previously unknown brother of Dorothea - or her father.

Edwin William Livermore - dob 14 Sep 1911 - Death Q4 1972 Hillingdon.

I've searched 1909 - 1913 for a birth for the above Edwin and.....yep you've guessed....there isn't one! But it could open up another line of living relatives who might know something about the family.

The other alternative is that it is Dorothea's fathers death. I know it doesn't sound possible but believe me I've just had one like it myself: I knew the death I was looking for was in 1961 and I knew the age was 84 - on the death cert his age is recorded as 63! with a note in the margin with the correct age, so it does happen!

Mary

Given the above information it is very likely that he is a son and maybe born in South Africa

Brenda

Good Afternoon Everyone

After having a very hectic weekend I have spent the afternoon ordering more certificates.

Thankyou for the congratulations on my sons passing out parade last Friday.it was a very proud day for us all.

I have ordered the following certificates.

Death of Edwin Livermore aged 68 Ipswich
Deaths of William and Sarah (parents to Edwin)

There was a possible birth of a brother to Dorothea Edwin Livermore.dob 14th Sept 1911,death 1972 Hillingdon.

I have tried to find the full Gro referance number for this birth but have not been able to find it.Any help would be great thankyou then I can get the certificate ordered.

So fingers crossed we might gain some more information when these certificates arrive.
Im now off to answer lots of emails.
Many thanks
Dionne
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Yes, I know - very disappointing! I would certainly think it's worth getting at least the mothers death cert as she died last - perhaps she might be the informant on her husbands death cert.

Oh Ann.....What a shame! Was really hoping that something might show up!
Do you think that it may be worthwhile Dionne getting the parents death certificates? Whoever registered the deaths may lead to some new openings.

Brenda

Moody Blue found possible deaths for Edwin/Edwards parents in 1940 and 1941 (page 30). Had a look at the Probate Index today, 1940-1942, and no mention of wills unfortunately. Didn't have time to look at the RAMC history, but hopefully will do that next time.

Hi Dionne

I too have been following this intriguing thread and I must endorse Diane's argument for ordering Edwin's death certificate in 1953. I had been searching - for years may I add - for a death between 1861-1871 for an ancestor because three of his children, who married between that period, stated their father as deceased on their marriage certificates. I later found him on the 1891 census and a DC in 1892.

Good luck with you search.

Elaine

Hi Dionne
Been reading your thread from the beginning and it has been very touching. I don't know whether it will help with regard the death found for Edwin Livermore and the question as to whether it could be your Edwin as he is listed as deceased on his daughter's marriage certificates. I have marriage certificates where the father of either the bride or groom is listed as deceased and was in fact still alive possibly listed as dead due to family rifts. Hope this is of some help with your decision as to whether to purchase the 1953 death certificate.

Best wishes
Diane

Congratulations to your son and hope all your family has a great day

Hi again Dionne, came across this entry on FBMD
Frank W Livermore
Bn Edmonton
4thQ 1915
MMN PINNUCK
You have a PITTUCK on your thread could there be spelling mistake???

PS, a message that I posted this morning and this afternoon isnt here.

What a good idea, there are ten LIVERMORE threads on there, Dionne, you will need to read and see if they relate to you.

Nicki

Hi again Dionne, further to what I posted last night have you looked on the Trying to find Boards (UNDER LIVERMORE) ? or indeed for that matter has anyone else ?

All the Best BOB,.,

I'm there every week Dionne, so it's no problem.

Congratulations to your son - how exciting! Hope you all have a great weekend.

Hi Margaret.

Thankyou for posting the information.Unfortunately we dont think that this is the right Edwin

Hi Brenda

Thankyou for the further info.I spent hours going through my notes and found the marriages of the sisters.

Hi Ann

What an angel you are going back to Kew. I think you should get a bed there,lol.

A small update for you.Did some hot matches seach on genes and two trees came up with what looks like to be the father of Edwin. I have posted messages to both.

I will not be about much over the next few days. My son passes out in the Navy this Friday. He will become a qualified Warfare Specialist.Hes only 19.I have family coming tomorrow to stay for the event.I will try and pop in one I can but please fogive me if you dont see me about much untill Sat/Sun.

Dionne
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Something else for me to look at. The Library at Kew has a history of the RAMC. If available on Saturday (building work at Kew means the library is in a bit of a state at the moment), I'll have a look. Might shed some light on where they were and what they were doing in SA up to 1911, and where they went after that!