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Alice Lount Mann 1863 Leicester

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Gillian

Gillian Report 22 Nov 2007 09:51

Trying to find spouce & decendents of:
Alice Lount Mann 1863 Leicester
Jan/March qtr Leicester vol 7a 225 1863.

She had 6 brothers/sisters and her parents were Henry Mann & Elizabeth Smith both c1831.

Her grandparents were: Thomas Mann & Elizabeth Lount c 1813 (married in 1829- St Marys Leicester)).

jansmith

jansmith Report 22 Nov 2007 10:11

1891 could this be her/
Name: Alice L Blaksley
[Alice L Mann]
Age: 28
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1863
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Nathaniel
Father's Name: Henry
Gender: Female
Where born: Leicester, Leicestershire, England

Civil Parish: St Margaret
Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter
County/Island: Leicestershire
Name: Nathaniel Blaksley
Age: 28
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1863
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Alice L
Gender: Male
Where born: Leicester, Leicesters
Name: Henry Mann
Age: 63
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1828
Relation: Father-in-law
Gender: Male
Where born: Leicester, Leicestershire, England

Civil Parish: St Margaret
Name: Martha J A Mann
Age: 16
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1875
Relation: Sister-in-law
Gender: Female
Where born: Leicester, Leicestershire, England

Civil Parish: St Margaret
Household Members: Name Age
Alice L Blaksley 28
Herbert N Blaksley 4
Nathaniel Blaksley 28
Sydney Blaksley 1
Henry Mann 63
Martha J A Mann 16

Gillian

Gillian Report 22 Nov 2007 13:55

Yes, Looks like it is her! Thank you.
I notice this is from the 1891 census?

Is it pos to find her/ her family at an earlier time at all?

Once again - thank you for yur help.
Gill

Gillian

Gillian Report 22 Nov 2007 14:01

Name: Martha J A Mann
Age: 16
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1875

I have her as 1861 - which would make her aprox 30 in 1891?????
Otherwise - all the other details fit exactly??

David

David Report 22 Nov 2007 14:13

Alice Lount Mann marriage Dec 1884 Leicester Volume 7a page 534, Nathaniel Blaksley is on the same page.

In 1881 indexed as Maw in 44 Ivy Cross Street, Leicester St Margaret, Leicestershire:

Henry Mann c1831 Leicester, Framework Knitter
Elizabeth c1830 Leicester
Alice L c1863 Leicester, Book Folder/Binder
Harry c1870 Leicester
Martha J A c1875 Leicester
John Clay c1810 Leicester, Greenwich Pensioner, Uncle

In 1871 in 12 Bonners? Lane, Newarke, Leicestershire:

Henry Mann c1831 Leicester
Elizabeth c1830 Leicester
James c1853 Leicester, Shoe Maker
Elizabeth c1856 Leicester, Worsted Spinner
Walter c1858 Leicester, Shoe Finisher
Alice c1863 Leicester
Kezia c1866 Leicester
Harry c1870 Leicester
John Clay c1810 Leicester, Greenwich Pensioner, Uncle

In 1861 in District Leicester Union Workhouse:

Henry Mann c1831 Leicester St Mary, Frame Work Knitter
Elizabeth c1830 Leicester St Nicholas
James c1853 Leicester
Elizabeth c1856 Leicester
Martha c1861 Leicester

In 1861 in Henshaw Street? Leicester St Marys:

Kezia Smith c1801, Leicester, Manager of House
William c1833 Leicester, Brewer
Joseph c1838 Leicester, Grate Fitter
Ann c1840 Leicester, Knitter of Fancy Work
Walter J Mann c1858 Leicester

In 1851 in Henshaw Street, Leicester St Marys:

John Smith c1800 Hamer? Nottingham, Turner & Fitter
Keziah c1802 Leicester, Washerwoman
William c1833 Leicester, Labourer
George c1835 Leicester, Smith
Joseph c1838 Leicester, ?
Ann c1840 Leicester, Fancy Work
Thomas Clay c1781 Leicester, Father in Law?
Henry Mann c1830 Leicester, Framework Knitter
Elizabeth c1830 Leicester, Fancy Work
Elizabeth c1838 Leicester, Cotton Winder (Henrys Sister)

In 1841 in the Newarks, Leicester:

Thomas Mann c1812 Woolcomber
Elizabeth c1813
Henry c1831
Elizabeth c1838

Henry Mann Christening: 23 AUG 1830 Saint Mary De Castro, Leicester parents Thomas and Eliz.

Thomas Mann married Elizabeth Lount 12 OCT 1829 Saint Mary, Leicester

Check out IGI Batch Number: C034631

Mann parents William and Mary.
Lount parents Henry and Mary.

Check out freeBMD for more info:

A Henry Mann married in Leicester in Dec 1850, one of the choices of spouse is an Elizabeth Smith, maybe more than a coincidence that their son is staying with the Smith family and they name one of their children Kezia.

David

David Report 22 Nov 2007 15:12

By earlier do you mean more recent?

In 1901 in 3 Laurel Road, Leicester, Formerly St Margaret:

Nathaniel Blaksley c1863 Leicester, Grocers Vanman
Alice L c1863 Leicester, Tailoress
Herbert N c1887 Leicester, Fitter of Boots & Shoes
Sydney c1890 Leicester
Mabel A c1895 Leicester
Walter c1900
Jessie E Urquhart c1888 Leicester, Nurse Girl, Niece
Walter J Mann c1858 Notts, Edge Setter, B in Law
Florence S Mann c1897, Leicester, Niece

Gillian

Gillian Report 22 Nov 2007 15:20

Wow - Thanks David - cant quite take it all in just yet! I may well get back to you with a couple of questions if thats ok.
Thank you so much for all your hard work in tracing the family
Kind regards
Gill

Gillian

Gillian Report 22 Nov 2007 15:30

Hi David
Just knew that I would have some questions.
I notice a Martha Mann born 1861 in the 1861 workhouse and a Martha Mann born 1875 in the 1881 census.
Were there two Martha Manns born to henry & Elizabeth. and did the 1st one die? When?

David

David Report 22 Nov 2007 16:10

A Martha Mann died in Dec 1863 Leicester, unfortunately it doesn't give her age.

Gillian

Gillian Report 23 Nov 2007 10:43

Thanks David - that makes sence Marth dies aged 2 and 12 years after that they have another daughter, who they also call Martha.

Presume -
John Clay c1810 Leicester, (uncle) is Henry Manns Dads? or mums? brother.

Do we know who he is exactly?

David

David Report 28 Nov 2007 19:49

John Smith c1800 married Keziah Clay 25 DEC 1821 Saint Mary, Leicester.

In 1851 Thomas Clay c1781 is his Father in Law

Keaziah Clay Birth: 31 JAN 1802 Christening: 08 FEB 1802 Saint Mary De Castro, Leicester parents Thomas and Martha.

Therefore John Clay c1810 is possibly the son of Thomas Clay and Keziahs brother hence Elizabeths Uncle.

Gillian

Gillian Report 29 Nov 2007 10:12

David - thank you, I understand the coonection now.


1901 census: shows a neice living with the family,
Jessie E Urquhart c1888 Leicester, Nurse
Girl,

I dont yet have any knowledge of the 'Urquhart's)? Any ideas where I should be looking ?????

Thanks again for your help
Gill

David

David Report 29 Nov 2007 17:19

Jessie Elizabeths birth info can be seen on freeBMD Dec 1887 although her surname is spelt Urquart.

In 1891 she is boarding with the Hyde family in Vines Street.

For this to happen I would have thought her parents may have died or something.

Gillian

Gillian Report 30 Nov 2007 09:54

Thanks again David
I will now try to find out who Jessies parents were...as I am still trying to find her connection with Nathaniel Blaksley and Alice Lount Blaksley (nee Mann).
Gill

David

David Report 30 Nov 2007 10:10

There is an Urquhart family on various census living in Leicester St Margaret, who originate from Scotland, but can't identify a possible parent at the moment.