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MaryMc
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23 Nov 2007 21:09 |
On an English marriage cert from 1855 I have, it says:
"Married in the Parish Church according to the rights and ceremonies of the Established Church by me, (and this bit is written in) superintendent registrar's certificate for Marriage without license" Signed by the Officiating Minister.
Can anyone explain all that to me? What does without license mean?
Thanks in advance!
MaryMc
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jen yorkshire
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23 Nov 2007 21:15 |
this is all i can find, dont know if its of use
4. Marriage by Superintendent Registrar's Certificate without Licence The final method of getting married in accordance to the rites of the Church of England, is by the authority of a superintendent registrar's certificate without licence. However, this method is for the marriage of qualifying relatives-in-law (see prohibited marriages for further information). If this method is approved, the church where your marriage is to take place must be located in the same registration district as the register office that issues the certificate. Furthermore, one of you must have lived in the parish for seven days prior to giving notice. Twenty-one clear days after giving notice, a certificate of authority to get married will be issued. The marriage must take place within 12 months from the date your notice was entered in the notice book
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MaryMc
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23 Nov 2007 21:53 |
Jen, Thanks!
So it looks like they were some sort of "in-law" relationship before they married.
Need to delve a bit deeper then :)
Thanks! MaryMc
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MaryMc
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23 Nov 2007 22:42 |
Well, I was thinking along the lines that one of the parties had been married before to a brother or sister of the husband/wife - but I can't find anything.
perhaps I'm thinking along the wrong lines!
Can anybody give me a clue as to how else they could have been "relatives in law"?
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SylviaInCanada
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24 Nov 2007 01:42 |
Have you tried tracing them on the 1841 or 1851 census to see if that helps?
If not, post their names and all other information and I will have a look (when I get back from dinner!!)
sylvia
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MaryMc
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24 Nov 2007 06:22 |
Thanks Sylvia, that would be very kind!
Details from the cert are:
William Staples b. circa 1930 in East Leake, Leicestershire, England.
Son of John Staples - labourer.
At the time of marriage William was a labourer, but I think he later was a coal miner.
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Ann Draper b. circa 1836 in Long Whatton, Leicestershire, England.
Daughter of William Draper - Framework knitter.
At the time of marriage Ann was a framework knitter.
They were married in the parish of Long Whatton, Leicestershire. In the presence of:
Thomas Draper and Eliza Draper - not sure who they were!
Thanks!
MaryMc
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KeithInFujairah
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24 Nov 2007 06:47 |
Ann in 1851?
Name: Ann Draper Age: 15 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1836 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: William Mother's Name: Mary Gender: Female Where born: Long Whatton, Leicestershire, England Civil Parish: Long Whatton County/Island: Leicestershire Country: England Street address: Green
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Disability: View Image Registration district: Loughborough Sub-registration district: Loughborough ED, institution, or vessel: 10b Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 28 Household Members: Name Age Ann Draper 15 George Draper 5 Mary Draper 32 Mary Draper 4 Thomas Draper 9 William Draper 35 Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 2085; Folio: 558; Page: 7
All family born Long Whatton, William, Mary and Ann all Frame Knitters. (William & Mary cotton gloves, Ann cotton stockings)
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KeithInFujairah
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24 Nov 2007 06:54 |
Possible William 1841?
Name: William Staples Age: 12 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1829 Gender: Male Civil Parish: East Leake Hundred: Rushcliffe (South Division) County/Island: Nottinghamshire Country: England Street address:
Occupation: View Image Registration district: Loughborough Sub-registration district: Leake Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Elizabeth Staples 14 Jemima Staples 30 John Staples 40 Ag Lab. William Staples 12
Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece 863; Book: 18; Civil Parish: East Leake; County: Nottinghamshire; Enumeration District: 3; Folio: 10; Page: 13
I wonder if Eliza the witness is his married sister?
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KeithInFujairah
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24 Nov 2007 07:06 |
Ann in 1841
Name: Ann Draper Age: 5 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1836 Gender: Female Where born: Leicestershire, England Civil Parish: Long Whatton Hundred: West Goscote County/Island: Leicestershire Country: England Street address:
Occupation: View Image Registration district: Loughborough Sub-registration district: Loughborough Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Ann Draper 5 Jno Draper 3 Mary Draper 20 Wm Draper 25 Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece 596; Book: 17; Civil Parish: Long Whatton; County: Leicestershire; Enumeration District: 22; Folio: 6; Page: 5; Line: 10
Willams occupation looks like FAK K (frame knitter?)
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KeithInFujairah
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24 Nov 2007 07:17 |
I wonder if this is Elizabeth, bt wrong age in 1851?
Name: Elizabeth Draper Age: 20 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1831 Relation: Wife Spouse's Name: Thomas Gender: Female Where born: Loughborough, Leicestershire, England Civil Parish: Loughborough Town: Loughborough County/Island: Leicestershire Country: England Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Disability: View Image Registration district: Loughborough Sub-registration district: Loughborough ED, institution, or vessel: 3l Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 110 Household Members: Name Age Elizabeth Draper 20 Thomas Draper 21 Cordwainer. Found a marriage for Thomas Draper, 4 possible brides called Elizabeth, but not Elizabeth Staples!
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MaryMc
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24 Nov 2007 07:53 |
Keith, Thank you!
Now, I need to print this out and go and think about it, as I'm dreadful at trying to think things out. back later.
MaryMc
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MaryMc
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24 Nov 2007 18:17 |
Many thanks to Keith for sending through the scans :)
MaryMc
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KeithInFujairah
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24 Nov 2007 18:26 |
Your welcome :-)
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SylviaInCanada
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25 Nov 2007 01:34 |
sorry Mary
I was in bed by the time you gave the information, and I have only just come on here today!
Glad that Keith managed to find a lot of stuff for you.
sylvia
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MaryMc
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25 Nov 2007 02:31 |
Hi Sylvia, No worries, thanks for your kind offer anyway :)
MaryMc
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