Can't find them in the 1851 or 1841 census!!

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Member Since: December 2002 Posts: 395 Send Message	Sue in Sunny Worthing	Report	24 Nov 2007 17:26
	Hi, Can any of you kind people help please? I have this family in the 1861 census- John Walton age 39 Druggist assistant born Melton Mowbray Laura Walton age 39 Wife born North Muscot?, Nottinghamshire John W Walton age 14 Son Scholar born Manchester Richard N Walton age 12 Son Scholar born Manchester Emily S A Walton age 5M Daughter born Nottinghamshire They are living in Trinity Terrace, Sherwood?, Nottingham but I cannot find them in 1851 or 1841. Would someone mind having a look for me please? (I have them in 1861,71, 81, 91 & 1901) Thanks everso much, Sue
Member Since: July 2004 Posts: 33,475 Send Message	GlitterBaby	Report	24 Nov 2007 17:51
	Not having any luck with 1851
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Member Since: April 2006 Posts: 5,644 Send Message	KeithInFujairah	Report	24 Nov 2007 17:57
Member Since: April 2006 Posts: 5,644 Send Message	Judging by the youngest child in 61, is it possible John was married previously and appears with a different wife in 1851?
Member Since: December 2002 Posts: 395 Send Message	Sue in Sunny Worthing	Report	24 Nov 2007 17:58
	Its a nightmare isn't it? Thank you for looking though, Sue
Member Since: December 2002 Posts: 395 Send Message	Sue in Sunny Worthing	Report	24 Nov 2007 18:00
	Keith thats a thought, I am currently awaiting the birth certificate of John Walton junior - that would show who his Mother was. He was a Grendier Guard at Windsor Castle in 1871 & 1881 and his army records show his next of kin to be his mother Laura so assumed it was her!! Sue
Member Since: April 2006 Posts: 5,644 Send Message	KeithInFujairah	Report	24 Nov 2007 18:04
Member Since: April 2006 Posts: 5,644 Send Message	Well with Laura being born Nottinghamshire and Emily as well, it is possible he remarried. Still cannot find the family though!
Member Since: April 2004 Posts: 23,482 Send Message	MargaretM	Report	24 Nov 2007 18:05
	IGI has Richard Needham Walton born 11 Feb.1849, chr. 4 Mar.1849, St, Saviour, Manchester. Parents John & Laura.
	Researching: Great grandmother Dorothy Bean nee Abbott (1858-1908)
Member Since: December 2002 Posts: 395 Send Message	Sue in Sunny Worthing	Report	24 Nov 2007 18:06
	I've been intrigued where Manchester fitted in - maybe his first wife was from there? Guess I should really look at some marriage records!! Sue
Member Since: December 2002 Posts: 395 Send Message	Sue in Sunny Worthing	Report	24 Nov 2007 18:07
	Looks like Laura could've been the Mother then? This is confusing!!
Member Since: April 2004 Posts: 23,482 Send Message	MargaretM	Report	24 Nov 2007 18:09
	Also John William Walton chr. 3 Jan.1847, Cathedral Manchester. Parents John & Laura.
	Researching: Great grandmother Dorothy Bean nee Abbott (1858-1908)
Member Since: December 2002 Posts: 395 Send Message	Sue in Sunny Worthing	Report	24 Nov 2007 18:18
	thank you Margaret
Member Since: December 2004 Posts: 6,033 Send Message	K	Report	24 Nov 2007 18:18
	Possible Marraige Surname First name(s) District Vol Page Marriages Dec 1845 (>99%) CASSIDY James Manchester 20 769 >>>COOKE Laura Manchester 20 769 CROOKE Thomas Manchester 20 769 HOLLAND Samuel Manchester 20 769 RICHARDSON Elizabeth Manchester 20 769 RUSHTON Mary Manchester 20 769 TAYLOR Ann Manchester 20 769 >>>WALTON John Manchester 20 769
	Researching: Anstee/Bucks; Russell/London; Durose; Pease/North Yorks; Kelly/IoM
Member Since: April 2006 Posts: 5,644 Send Message	KeithInFujairah	Report	24 Nov 2007 18:29
Member Since: April 2006 Posts: 5,644 Send Message	makes note to self - check IGI more frequently Well done Margaret, but Emily seems like a late baby after a break.
Member Since: December 2002 Posts: 395 Send Message	Sue in Sunny Worthing	Report	24 Nov 2007 18:36
	Thank you K, that looks as if it could well be the marriage. Keith - maybe some babies died? Sue
Member Since: December 2002 Posts: 395 Send Message	Sue in Sunny Worthing	Report	24 Nov 2007 19:01
	John Senior had died before the 1871 census as Laura was a widow then and I think Laura had died before the 1881 census. In 1881 census I found- John Junior is a Grenadier Guard at Windsor Castle Richard is living with his wife & children in Peebles, Scotland Emily is a servant in Nottingham
Member Since: December 2002 Posts: 395 Send Message	Sue in Sunny Worthing	Report	24 Nov 2007 19:02
	Which county is Manchester in? Is it Lancashire?

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