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Hi All
Can anyone advise me of my next move?
Bought my 2xg grandparents marriage cert to be certain of maiden name and to obtain her fathers name.
Mary Ann Wilkinson married Thomas Peters Sept 1880 Salford father William wilkinson, soap boiler deceased.
The only one I can find on 1871 cencus using Ancestry isn't her and cant find a birth so probably not registered. According to later cencus she was born in Liverpool in 1861.
Can anyone help please?

Thanks
Diane

Hi
I think the POB on the 1901 cencus may be a mistake as the 81,91 and the 1911 cencus say Liverpool. The 1881 cencus gives her year of birth as 1861 along with the marriage cert. I know that doesn't neccessarily mean it's right though.

Thanks for your help
Diane

Your posts are a bit cryptic and I missed the intervening one -- is this her in 1881?

Name: Mary A. Wilkinson
Age: 21
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1860
Relation: Servant
Gender: Female
Where born: Liverpool, Lancashire, England

Oh, oops, no, that says 1860. I'm not seeing an 1861 DOB.

Can you just post the 1881 census info?

Duh. She was married in 1881.

Name: Mary A. Peters
Age: 20
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1861
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Thomas
Where born: Liverpool
Civil Parish: Salford

1891

Name: Mary Ann Peters
Age: 29
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1862
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Thomas
Where born: Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Salford

1901

Name: Mary A Peters
Age: 39
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1862
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Thomas
Where born: Salford, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Salford

Salford does look like a birthplace of convenience in that year.

-- although -- Thomas says Liverpool in 1891 and Liverpool in 1901.

Hi
She had married in 1880 It's the 1871 cencus I cant find her as a Wilkinson

Mary A. Peters
Age: 20
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1861
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Thomas
Gender: Female
Where born: Liverpool

Civil Parish: Salford
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address: 13 Crookill Street
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status:

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Occupation: House Wife

Registration district: Salford
Sub registration district: Regent Road
ED, institution, or vessel: 44
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Peters 21
Mary A. Peters 20
Sarah J. Peters

I saw the error of my ways just before you posted and corrected my post above. ;)

Have you found a birth registration that would fit?

If Mary Ann never knew her father ... and might not have known her correct birthdate ... here's a possibility:


Marriages Jun 1862
Carroll Margaret Liverpool 8b 428
Murry John Liverpool 8b 428
> Ousley Kate Liverpool 8b 428
> Wilkinson Henry Liverpool 8b 428

1871:

Name: Mary Wilkinson
Age: 7
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1864
Relation: Granddaughter
Where born: Liverpool, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Liverpool
Town: Liverpool

Richard Ousley 66
Mary Wilkinson 7

Hi Eavie
I do believe that Thomas was born in Liverpool. It states that birthplace on every cencus from 1861 through till 1911. His father was a shipping clerk.
I havn't found a birth record either for Mary Ann probably not registered.
Thankyou

Diane

Mary Ann's husband was a Waterman.

Her marriage cert says her father was a soap boiler, but here's an interesting William Wilkinson, Waterman, in 1861:

William Wilkinson 48
Ann Wilkinson 46
Mary Ann Wilkinson 17
William Wilkinson 15 - also Waterman
Theo Wilkinson 14
John Wilkinson 8
Caroline Wilkinson 8 Mo

Civil Parish: Liverpool
Town: Liverpool

I think either William Wilkinson didn't exist or that she has been mistranscribed.
I will look into the one you have found

Thanks Eavie

I think "didn't exist" is probably the most likely answer. ;)

An oddly specific occupation to pick for him though, if that were the case.

Possibly one of the usual situations -- the father's name was William, but Mary Ann's mother was the Wilkinson, for instance.

No better luck than you, sorry!

I assume the witnesses to the marriage offer no clues.

Eavie you are far too fast for my old laptop to keep up with lol
I have been searching all day and haven't found the ones you have come up with. The waterman one looks promising.

Thaks
Diane

What was Thomas's father's name?

Was Thomas in Liverpool or Salford in 1871?

I will see what the younger William throws at me when I try and follow him through the cencus years.

The witnesses were Thomas;s brother and a Mary Ann Buckley. I have found a Mary Ann Buckley near to them though nothing obvious well not to me lol stands out

Thanks

Diane

His Father was Peter Roberts Peters. He was a book keeper working in shipping. Thomas was born in Liverpool but christened at Manchester cathedral very shortly after. A year later on the 1861 they lived in Hartlepool then the next cencus they were back in Salford though Thomas wasn't with them and I haven't managed to find him though there is a Thomas as a servant in Cheshire.
Oops something tell me there may be some significance in that

Diane