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Here's another one for all those kind people who have helped in the past.
All I know of TOM SERLE WILSON is he was born in Chorley, Lancashire c. 1897. Lived on Water Street with his family who came from Mill Hill Blackburn. He joined the army in 1914 and gave his age as 18 even though he was only 17. He later married a Sarah Fisher also from Chorley.
Any info. much appreciated, Heather

birth
Name: Tom Serle Wilson
Year of Registration: 1897
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Blackburn
County: Lancashire
Volume: 8e
Page: 476

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Possible 1901
Name: Tom Wilson
Age: 3
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1898
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Alexander
Mother's Name: Eliza A
Gender: Male
Where born: Blackburn, Lancashire, England

Civil parish: Blackburn
Ecclesiastical parish: Livesey St Andrew
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Blackburn
Sub-registration district: Witton
ED, institution, or vessel: 16
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 76
Household Members: Name Age
Alexander Wilson 43 Occupation Cotton Winder
Eliza A Wilson 44
William Wilson 19
Eliza A Wilson 18
Jane Wilson 17
Agnes Wilson 13
Alexander Wilson 11
Ralph Wilson 7
Tom Wilson 3
Emma Wilson 1

All born Blackburn

Roy

Great start. I made a mistake though - Tom Wilson married Sarah HART not FISHER. I thought he was born in Chorley but maybe he was born in Blackburn after all and moved to Chorley as a young boy. I do think though he was in Chorley by the time of the 1901 census.

the marriage cert will confirm his fathers name and occupation, her are the details

Name: Tom S Wilson
Year of Registration: 1924
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
Spouse's Surname: Hart
District: Chorley
County: Lancashire
Volume: 8e
Page: 1221

or the birth cert in my first post will confirm both parants details
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British Army WWI Medal Rolls Index Cards, 1914-1920
Name: Tom Serle Wilson
Regiment or Corps: The King's Own Royal Regiment (Lancaster)
Regimental Number: 16282

HAve spoke to a family member who now tells me that Tom Serle Wilson's parents were John Wilson b. 1869 and Beatrice Norse b. 1875 . Tom came from a large family and had siblings called Mary, Hannah, and then Beatrice, Joseph, Arthur, John and George but they were born after 1901 so would not show on census.

Heather, His birth cert will confirm who his parents are.

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you need the birth cert but their is only one John Wilson married to a Beatrice in Lancashire on the 1901 census but your Tom serle Wilson is not with them but this Thomas S Wilson IS their as i said the birth sert as posted above will prove/dis-prove this

Name: John Wilson
Age: 31
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1870
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Beatrice E
Gender: Male
Where born: Darwen, Lancashire, England

Civil parish: Livesey
Ecclesiastical parish: St Andrew
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:Paper Maker

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Blackburn
Sub-registration district: Witton
ED, institution, or vessel: 19
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 105
Household Members: Name Age
John Wilson 31
Beatrice E Wilson 26 born: Cheddar, Somerset
Mary J Wilson 9 born: Livesey, Lancashire
Hannah Wilson 7 born: Livesey, Lancashire
Thomas S Wilson 3 born: Livesey, Lancashire
Edwin Wilson 1 born: Livesey, Lancashire

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Marriages Jun 1890 (>99%)
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NORSE Beatrice Emma Blackburn 8e 682
WILSON John Blackburn 8e 682

Beatrice Emma Norse married John Wilson Blackburn 1890 Jun Q vol 8e page 682

There's a tree on the Ancestry site with a lovely piccy of John and Beatrice and a great deal more info about children etc. (279 people in tree)


1891 England Census
Name: John Wilson
Age: 21
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1870
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Beatrice
Gender: Male
Where born: Darwen, Lancashire, England

Civil parish: Livesey
Ecclesiastical parish: St Andrew
Town: Livesey
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Blackburn
Sub-registration district: Witton
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
John Wilson 21
Beatrice Wilson 17
John Wilson 9/12

1891 13 Percy St livesey
John Wilson 21 Paper Maker b Darwen
Beatrice 17 wife b Cheddar Somerset
John 9mths b Livesey

in 1891 census their is another child
Name: John Wilson
Age: 21
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1870
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Beatrice
Gender: Male
Where born: Darwen, Lancashire, England

Civil parish: Livesey
Ecclesiastical parish: St Andrew
Town: Livesey
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address: 13 percy street

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Blackburn
Sub-registration district: Witton
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
John Wilson 21
Beatrice Wilson 17
John Wilson 9/12

death
Name: John Wilson
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1890
Year of Registration: 1900
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
Age at Death: 10
District: Blackburn
County: Lancashire
Volume: 8e
Page: 291


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Heres where the Serle came from
1881 Feniscowles Livesey
Tom Serle Norse 32 Rag Engineer paper factory b Bradninch Devon
Mary Jane 33 wife
Albert 13
Thomas A 11
Eliza9 all b Bradninch Devon
Beaterace (sic) 6 b Cheddar Somerset
George 4 b Wrasbury Bucks
Charlotte 2 b Livesey
Edwin 5mths b Livesey

Porkypie your posting at 19:39 is the family I think. I know that Tom Serle Wilson was definitely TOM and not THOMAS. I think he had a brother, as you have found, who died at a young age. There was an Edwin too in the family and then it seems he had two brothers and sisters who died soon after birth but they were born after the 1901 census.

Dont dismiss it because it says Thomas instead of Tom -the census enumerator who came to the door would ask the name and if told "Tom" would write what he thought to be the correct name instead of a "Shortened "one.
I think the census for 1891 for Beatrice showing her father to be Tom Serle Norse is the clincher

Sorry Gillian not sure where your info. fits in. Tom Serle Wilson as far as I know was born in c.1897 That is definitely the name I am looking for not Norse. I think Tom's mothers name was Norse. Is this where you have got mixed up or am I not looking at it right?

Heather, Gillian, has noted that she thinks the middle name Serle was handed down the family from his mothers side as the record shows a rellie of hers (Her Father) was names Tom Serle Norse

1881
Name: Tom Serle Norse
Age: 32
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1849
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Mary Jane
Gender: Male
Where born: Bradninch, Devon, England

Civil parish: Livesey
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address: Feniscowles
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status: View Image
Occupation: Rag Engineer At Paper Making

Registration district: Blackburn
Sub-registration district: Witton
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Tom Serle Norse 32
Mary Jane Norse 33
Albert Norse 13
Thomas A. Norse 11
Eliza Norse 9
Beaterace E. Norse 6 born: Cheddar, Somerset Relation: Daughter
George Norse 4
Charlotte Norse 2
Edwin Norse



Roy

Thanks for clearing that up and yes, I can now see what you mean. I often wondered where that name came from, certainly not a common Lancashire name!! i was told that Tom Serle Wilson had family way back from Denmark (?) but not sure of this.