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William Wilson b 1818 & Alice Wilson b 1823

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Ann

Ann Report 5 Jan 2011 22:15

I would be grateful for any help! My great great great grandparents William Wilson b 1818 Halton in Yorkshire (Mill Engr) married to Alice b 1823 in Pannall Yorkshire - can anyone help find Alice's maiden name? I am hoping this information may help me to go back to the previous generation.

I know William and Alice had a son, amongst other children, called William b 1844 in Leeds, he was married to Sarah Ann .... b 1842 Royston Yorkshire.

Many thanks

Janice

Janice Report 5 Jan 2011 22:19

If you buy William junior's birth cert, you'll have Alice's maiden name.

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 5 Jan 2011 22:32

residence: York, York, England
parents: William Wilson, Mary

record title: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
name: William Wilson
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 17 Oct 1818
baptism/christening place: SAINT MICHAEL SPURRIERGATE'S, YORK, YORK, ENGLAND
father's name: William Wilson
mother's name: Mary
indexing project (batch) number: C02207-3
system origin: England-EASy
source film number:

Flick

Flick Report 5 Jan 2011 22:33

The way to find the maiden name is to look on freebmd for the marriage

The child born in 1844 may not have been registered.........there were no penalties until 1875 for not registering births

The marriage would certainly have been after the GRO came into being in July 1837, if Alice's birth year is accurate

Flick

Flick Report 5 Jan 2011 22:38

1851...no sign of William jnr

Name: Alice Wilson
Age: 28
Estimated birth year: abt 1823
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: William Wilson
Gender: F (Female)
Where born: Pannal, Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: Leeds
Ecclesiastical parish: Leeds
Town: Leeds
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England


Registration district: Leeds
Sub-registration district: North Leeds
ED, institution, or vessel: 2n
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 12
Household Members: Name Age
William Wilson 33
Alice Wilson 28
Robert Wilson 1


Flick

Flick Report 5 Jan 2011 22:58

From Yorksbmd.................only speculating

Yorkshire Marriage indexes for the years: 1848

WILSON William WATKINS Alice St Michael, Headingley Leeds CE18/39


However........from the IGI

ALICE WATKIN

Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 24 FEB 1822 Pannal, Yorkshire, England

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Parents:
Father: ROBERT WATKIN Mother: MARY


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Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.


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Source Information:
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:

C017522 1812 - 1835 0918405 Film 6900116 Film


Sheet: 00

Flick

Flick Report 5 Jan 2011 22:59

You say you 'know' William and Alice had a son in 1844................what documents do you have to back that up?

Flick

Flick Report 5 Jan 2011 23:02

1861.........William born 1844 is the son of William..........no way of knowing who his mother is/was from the census records.

Name: Alice Wilson
Age: 38
Estimated birth year: abt 1823
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: William Wilson
Gender: Female
Where born: Pannell, Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: Leeds
Ecclesiastical parish: St Saviour
Town: Leeds
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Registration district: Leeds
Sub-registration district: South East Leeds
ED, institution, or vessel: 33
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 64
Household Members: Name Age
William Wilson 43
Alice Wilson 38
William Wilson 17
Henry Wilson 4
Mary Stellings 16
Erra Hartley 13


Ann

Ann Report 5 Jan 2011 23:11

Wow many thanks or such speedy helpful responses. I realise William jnr dob 1844 may not be exact - the hand-written family tree has been passed around the family for years so not too sure where the information came from originally.
Don't know if it will help but William jnr 1844 and Sarah Ann Wilson b1842 had a son Henry Wilson b1871 (married to Elizabeth Taylforth 1872) living in Garston in the 1901 census.
Regards

Flick

Flick Report 5 Jan 2011 23:13

That doesn't help, unfortunately.

Have you realised (from the info provided above) that Alice is possibly NOT William's mother?

Flick

Flick Report 5 Jan 2011 23:17

This looks like young William in 1851

Name: Wm Wilson
Age: 7
Estimated birth year: abt 1844
Relation: Visitor
Gender: M (Male)
Where born: Leeds, Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: Leeds
Town: Potter Newton
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England


Registration district: Hunslet
Sub-registration district: Chapeltown
ED, institution, or vessel: 1b
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 100
Household Members: Name Age
James Midgley 56
Amelia Midgley 56
John Midgley 67
Wm Wilson 7


Ann

Ann Report 6 Jan 2011 00:25

As previously I didn't have a date for William & Alice Wilsons marriage (1848) I hadn't considered that perhaps William Wilson jnr (1844) wasn't Alice's son. If this is the case it looks like William Snr 1818 may have been married before?

Many thanks Flick for all your help this evening, your responses have certainly given me food for thought.

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 6 Jan 2011 00:27

residence: Garston, Lancashire, England
parents: Joseph Taylforth, Mary Anne

record title: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
name: Mary Elizabeth Taylforth
gender: Female
baptism/christening date: 29 Dec 1901
baptism/christening place: Garston, Lancashire, England
father's name: Joseph Taylforth
mother's name: Mary Anne
indexing project (batch) number: I02188-9
system origin: England-EASy
source film number:

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 6 Jan 2011 00:28

birth: 14 Jan 1861
residence: Liverpool, Lancashire, England
parents: James Taylforth, Mary Jane

record title: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
name: Elizabeth Taylforth
gender: Female
baptism/christening date: 26 Mar 1861
baptism/christening place: Liverpool, Lancashire, England
birth date: 14 Jan 1861
father's name: James Taylforth
mother's name: Mary Jane
indexing project (batch) number: C00677-6
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 1656146

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 6 Jan 2011 00:28

birth: 1843 — Garston, Lancashire, England
residence: Garston, Lancashire, England
spouse: Joseph Taylforth

record title: England and Wales Census, 1881
name: Elizabeth Taylforth
age: 38
gender: Female
birth year: 1843
birthplace: Garston, Lancashire, England
relationship to head of household: Wife
marital condition: Married
address: 15 Chester Street
census place: Garston, Lancashire, England
record type: Household
family history library film: 1341890
the national archives reference: RG11
piece / folio: 3719 / 114
page number: 85

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 6 Jan 2011 00:29

birth: Garston, Lancashire
residence: England

record title: England and Wales Census, 1891
name: Elizabeth Taylforth
age: 17
gender: Female
birthplace: Garston, Lancashire
relationship to head of household: Sister In Law
record type: Census

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 6 Jan 2011 00:29

birth: Garston, Lancashire
residence: England

record title: England and Wales Census, 1891
name: Elizabeth Taylforth
age: 9
gender: Female
birthplace: Garston, Lancashire
relationship to head of household: Daughter
record type: Census

Ann

Ann Report 6 Jan 2011 00:33

Many thanks for all your help Ann. I'm delighted with the responses.

Ann

Ann Report 11 Jan 2011 22:21

I'm trying to get back another generation, unfortunately this is all I have to go on:

residence: York, York, England
parents: William Wilson, Mary (unfortunately I don't know dates of birth)
However they had a son, as follows:

record title: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
name: William Wilson
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 17 Oct 1818
baptism/christening place: SAINT MICHAEL SPURRIERGATE'S, YORK, YORK, ENGLAND
father's name: William Wilson
mother's name: Mary
indexing project (batch) number: C02207-3
system origin: England-EASy
source film number:

Would appreciate any information on William and Mary Wilson from York, their dates of birth must be around 1790s?